Alright so my dad calls me and tells me that we need to buy a new camcorder so go and research which one we should get. So I ask him what is the price range so he tells me in the local currency. Now translating it, it means $1000 max. We dont have taxes here so thats out of question but the prices are usually kept a bit high compared to the US I think. Now I suggest HDV (Sony HC7) but that comes in the $1300-1400 range which is out of my range. You can call us family shooters, nothing pro. First thing is I want MiniDV only. If I can get the Canon HV20 in my range then should I get it? Otherwise the Panasonic GS-500 is in my range easily. I really really want to go for HDV because the future is HD and right now the cams bing out a LOT of quality. Another secret reason is my desktop which is a Pentium 4 2.8 which I dont think can handle HDV, but my dads lappy is a Core Duo which should be able to. So when my dad sees me using his lappy all the time, he will understand that my PC is obsolete and he should buy me a Mac. Now question here is that should I get the HV20 if it is in my range? If it is not then should I get the GS500? Or should I wait a bit longer because some updates are coming up which will lower down prices into my range? I want you ask you one last thing. Sometimes a company rolls out a product which works great and becomes very popular. But when they update it, it is normally a downgrade with very small features to show as upgrades. This is the case in todays P/S cams compared to early digicams. So are the GS500, HV20 and HC7 in that category where they are screaming products and their upgrade will likely be a downgrade?