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pixiedusted

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I'm looking to purchase the new Macbook. Unsure which would suit me better. I don't understand the storage options--no hard drive, but flash memory?

I use Scrivener for writing, some web surfing/research. Do I need to go to the higher priced one?
 

blackberrycubed

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I suggest you get the base model and see how well it works for you and if within a few days you feel you need more power, swap it out within the 14 day period.
 
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oneMadRssn

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I'm looking to purchase the new Macbook. Unsure which would suit me better. I don't understand the storage options--no hard drive, but flash memory?

I use Scrivener for writing, some web surfing/research. Do I need to go to the higher priced one?

First, storage options:

In the past, hard drives used spinning magnetic disks as storage. The full technical name is HDD, Hard Disk Drive. But we called this hard drive, for short.

Today, rather than a spinning magnetic disk, the best computers use flash memory. One of the many advantages of flash memory is that it has no moving parts - indeed it's all a chip. Thus, the technical name is SSD, Solid State Drive.

However, for short, many people will still call this a hard drive because the end-user uses both in the same way, so the difference is immaterial and the specifics can be gleaned from context.

SSDs and HDDs both store the operating system, the applications, and all the files you have. SSDs are also faster than HDDs, use less energy, can be much smaller, lighter, and thinner, are typically less prone to physical damage, and generally tend to have a lower failure rate. They are overall pretty great. The new Macbook has one of the fastest SSDs available.

Apple called it "PCIe-based onboard flash storage" for a few reasons. It's PCIe-based as opposed to SATA-based, which was an older and slower protocol. It's onboard, meaning it cannot be upgraded after purchase (this is important). It's flash storage, which means it's an SSD, not sure why Apple prefers one term of the other.​

Second, which model you should get:

The first choice really comes down to storage. Since it cannot be upgraded post-purchase, chose wisely. Your only choices are 256GB or 512GB.

Take stock of what files you have today. How many photos do you have? How much music do you have? How many movies do you have? What is the size of your home directory?

Since you said you mostly use it for writing, I bet 256GB is enough. If you have the cash, 512GB would give you much more room to grow.

The second choice is about processor, whether to upgrade to the 1.3ghz processor. I would say it's not worth it. Benchmarks show the improvement is rather minimal. If it was $50-$100 extra, I would. Seeing how it's a $250 extra on the 256GB model, and $150 extra on the 512GB model, I wouldn't do it unless money was was abundant.

In the end, if you're the type of user that would notice the speed difference, odds are the Macbook Pro is really the computer you should be buying.​

Third, consider the Macbook Air:

It has better battery life, it's more powerful with more options, for less money. It's a bit thicker (though still very thin), a bit heavier (though still very light), and has a non-Retina screen (the screen is average overall).​
 
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pixiedusted

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First, storage options:

In the past, hard drives used spinning magnetic disks as storage. The full technical name is HDD, Hard Disk Drive. But we called this hard drive, for short.

Today, rather than a spinning magnetic disk, the best computers use flash memory. One of the many advantages of flash memory is that it has no moving parts - indeed it's all a chip. Thus, the technical name is SSD, Solid State Drive.

However, for short, many people will still call this a hard drive because the end-user uses both in the same way, so the difference is immaterial and the specifics can be gleaned from context.

SSDs and HDDs both store the operating system, the applications, and all the files you have. SSDs are also faster than HDDs, use less energy, can be much smaller, lighter, and thinner, are typically less prone to physical damage, and generally tend to have a lower failure rate. They are overall pretty great. The new Macbook has one of the fastest SSDs available.

Apple called it "PCIe-based onboard flash storage" for a few reasons. It's PCIe-based as opposed to SATA-based, which was an older and slower protocol. It's onboard, meaning it cannot be upgraded after purchase (this is important). It's flash storage, which means it's an SSD, not sure why Apple prefers one term of the other.​

Second, which model you should get:

The first choice really comes down to storage. Since it cannot be upgraded post-purchase, chose wisely. Your only choices are 256GB or 512GB.

Take stock of what files you have today. How many photos do you have? How much music do you have? How many movies do you have? What is the size of your home directory?

Since you said you mostly use it for writing, I bet 256GB is enough. If you have the cash, 512GB would give you much more room to grow.

The second choice is about processor, whether to upgrade to the 1.3ghz processor. I would say it's not worth it. Benchmarks show the improvement is rather minimal. If it was $50-$100 extra, I would. Seeing how it's a $250 extra on the 256GB model, and $150 extra on the 512GB model, I wouldn't do it unless money was was abundant.

In the end, if you're the type of user that would notice the speed difference, odds are the Macbook Pro is really the computer you should be buying.​

Third, consider the Macbook Air:

It has better battery life, it's more powerful with more options, for less money. It's a bit thicker (though still very thin), a bit heavier (though still very light), and has a non-Retina screen (the screen is average overall).​

Thanks for the detailed explanation.

On my desktop (which holds all my music & photos, etc.), I've used 71.35 of a 249.2 hard drive. How does that translate to the 256 or 512 model?
 

jesusplay

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time to adapt, if you have more than one computer no need to fill up the hard drives with stuff you don't use.
 

Gav2k

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1.2ghz 256 or 512 would suit your needs. The 1.1ghz runs hotter and has a slightly shorter battery life due to the chips used in each model. The benefit of the 1.3 is only seen when the chip is running its base clock as it can't run at boost as long as the 1.2.

Hope that helps
 

oneMadRssn

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Thanks for the detailed explanation.

On my desktop (which holds all my music & photos, etc.), I've used 71.35 of a 249.2 hard drive. How does that translate to the 256 or 512 model?

The 256gb model will be enough then for you.
 

oneMadRssn

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1.2ghz 256 or 512 would suit your needs. The 1.1ghz runs hotter and has a slightly shorter battery life due to the chips used in each model. The benefit of the 1.3 is only seen when the chip is running its base clock as it can't run at boost as long as the 1.2.

Hope that helps

There is no 1.2ghz 256gb model.
 

whodatrr

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Can't speak to the performance of the higher end models, but the woman I have two 1.1/8/256 rMBs and we're very happy with them. Good battery life, amazing screen, and more than enough power for the way we use them. For my woman, it's her only system. For me, it's my 2nd system. We couldn't be happier with them. Noyt sure about heat or batt issues with the 1.1... never heard that, and certainly haven't experienced it with either of our units?

Another thing to keep in mind, with battery life, is that can charge these rMBs from USB ports. This makes it very easy to charge or top them off, especially while travelling. While it might not charge as fast as the Apple charger, most of my USB chargers will get the job done. But that's also not a huge deal, as I tend to get 5-8hours, depending on how hard I push it.

Do look around, as there are some good open-box and refurb units out there. We got both of ours as open-box units, at best Buy, each under $1,000. I've also seen them at MacMall, in that range, but without sales tax.

Enjoy!
 

T'hain Esh Kelch

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For Scrivener and research any model available will suit your needs. The 256GB flash drive is more than enough, given you've used so little space by now.
 

roxysdad

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Best Buy has a good sale going on. I think they are $150 off right now for the base model. Add the student discount and you are sitting pretty.
 

fanta88

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I have the base 1.1/256 and run Scrivener all the time on the rMB. Zero problems. I honestly think the rMB is the perfect portable WRITING laptop, provided you can deal with the keyboard.
 

Nychot

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I'm a writer and use Word, do research, email. movies, tv -- all of it with a base rmb. Great laptop.
 

Max(IT)

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I'm looking to purchase the new Macbook. Unsure which would suit me better. I don't understand the storage options--no hard drive, but flash memory?

I use Scrivener for writing, some web surfing/research. Do I need to go to the higher priced one?
I don't know about Scrivener, but if it's a word processor, the base model is enough

I have the base 1.1/256 and run Scrivener all the time on the rMB. Zero problems. I honestly think the rMB is the perfect portable WRITING laptop, provided you can deal with the keyboard.
perfect for reporters and writers ...
 

noodle654

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Best Buy has a good sale going on. I think they are $150 off right now for the base model. Add the student discount and you are sitting pretty.

Just did that with the moving coupon too. I just bought a base model. I use my rMBP for the heavy lifting and the rMB strictly for travel. I didn't see the value in the higher tiered models.
 

ljmjag

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Just did that with the moving coupon too. I just bought a base model. I use my rMBP for the heavy lifting and the rMB strictly for travel. I didn't see the value in the higher tiered models.

What is the "moving coupon" and how do I get one?
 

noodle654

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What is the "moving coupon" and how do I get one?

It is a 10% off coupon that is valid on basically everything (including open box items). You get them inside USPS moving packets at the post office. However, Best Buy just recently restricted this coupon to 5% on certain categories (electronics basically) and 10% on household items but can only be used in store and limited 1 per customer.
 

ljmjag

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It is a 10% off coupon that is valid on basically everything (including open box items). You get them inside USPS moving packets at the post office. However, Best Buy just recently restricted this coupon to 5% on certain categories (electronics basically) and 10% on household items but can only be used in store and limited 1 per customer.

That's great to know! Thanks for the tip. Best Buy will stack the coupon on top of a sale price and college coupon?
 
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