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The ones that don't need celluar might as well purchase an iPod touch, or an iPad mini.

Needing a cellular connection is NOT the same as needing to use the cellular connection to make a phone call. It's not even in the same ballpark.
 
I wonder why people come on here to make the same complaints every year. If you don't like the iPhone, then move along.

I am extremely happy with my 7 plus, as I was with my 6 plus, 5, 4, 3GS and 3G. However, if Apple release an iPhone in the future that I don't like, or that doesn't fit my needs, then I'll just buy a phone from a competitor. I won't come on here to complain* and vow not to buy another iPhone until Apple gets their act together......I'll just move on. Maybe I come back in the future, maybe I don't, but who cares!

*I understand people coming on here to complain about an issue they're having with their devices......thats' what the forum is for......but to complain that a device you don't even own doesn't do the thing you want it to do is just ridiculous.
 
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Needing a cellular connection is NOT the same as needing to use the cellular connection to make a phone call. It's not even in the same ballpark.

My point is that people purchase a mobile Phone cause they make phone calls. So yes I'm 2016.....people still talk to each other, voice is still much more productive and efficient than messaging.
 
158.2 x 77.9 x 7.3 mm iPhone 7 plus
138.3 x 67.1 x 7.1 mm iPhone 7
145.9 x 71.9 x 9.0 mm HTC 10
149.4 x 73.9 x 7.7 mm LG 5
142.4 x 69.6 x 7.9 mm S7

Want to try another excuse? The phones tested are about same size as iPhone 7. The 7 plus is a phablet.

Make the iPhone 8 the same thickness as the HTC 10 and you could get rid of the camera hump and significantly increase battery life. Less than 2mm thicker. But probably 40-50% increase in battery volume. I can't imagine there'll be as many folk complaining about 'thick & heavy' as currently complain about poor battery life.
 
Exactly. Now that the placeholder 7 has arrived with all of the fanfare that a second "tock" or 3rd member of the iPhone 6 family deserves, it's time to begin to salivate over how good next year's redesigned iPhone 8 possibly could be. Maybe we won't have to wait a full year?
I think you might be right. I have a feeling we will see an unveiling around April May with availability June July.
 
Who makes phone calls any more? The iPhone 7 only loses badly on battery life while making phone calls. Using Wifi for internet use, it's neck and neck, and something people wouldn't notice.

It's an article with a misleading headline to get the anti-Apple people riled up and feeling superior. It means nothing in real life.

Plenty of people make calls, and even in just Web browsing it still loses. Sounds like your buyer's remorse is kicking in.
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Yeah, you know what it's like... when you're 712 minutes in on an important phone call & your phone "suddenly" dies!
& you be all: "Wtf?! That phone call was only like 11 hours & 50 minutes! I couldn't have got to a charger for the tail end... Ugh. Flipping Apple! Next time I'm getting an Android; I'd STILL be talking right now- I'm trying to beat my personal record of 16 hours straight, talking on my cell without stopping to charge it, eat, sleep, use the restroom, or breathe!". ;0)
Your buyer's remorse is making you hysterical. Bring sarcastic about it doesn't change that the iPhone 7's battery life is really weak and unacceptable.
 
Make the iPhone 8 the same thickness as the HTC 10 and you could get rid of the camera hump and significantly increase battery life. Less than 2mm thicker. But probably 40-50% increase in battery volume. I can't imagine there'll be as many folk complaining about 'thick & heavy' as currently complain about poor battery life.

you said "thicker"

psh, Nobody wants that. We want thinner. /s
 
Try comparing phone sizes, not screen size. If Android devices can get 2x more talk time by having the phone 2mm wider and 0.8mm thicker, I'll take it.

138.3 x 67.1 x 7.1 mm iPhone 7
145.9 x 71.9 x 9.0 mm HTC 10 +43% volume
149.4 x 73.9 x 7.7 mm LG 5 +29% volume
142.4 x 69.6 x 7.9 mm S7 +20% volume

That just makes them even larger in comparison than the simple screen size. They are much larger phones than the iPhone 7
 
This is way more technical compariso.

Which's tests are an utterly insane comparison. You can only compare to 4.7" phones.

Which? tests in a controlled environment, which is the ONLY time an android phone will get a consistent signal. Put that thing in the real world and there is no way the battery lasts that long. I'm sorry, I've had many androids and iphones, and there has never been a time I worried about my iPhone. I'm looking at a 7+ right now that has 65% battery at 5pm, and that's taking phone calls, listening to music, playing games and about 200 emails. We also have a 7 in our household that doesn't get used as much and it's still at 80% since coming off the charger this morning. And that was with 2 hours of Waze use. My SE used to get through a full day with 20-25% charge left.
 
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Who makes phone calls any more? The iPhone 7 only loses badly on battery life while making phone calls. Using Wifi for internet use, it's neck and neck, and something people wouldn't notice.

It's an article with a misleading headline to get the anti-Apple people riled up and feeling superior. It means nothing in real life.

What are you talking about? There is nothing misleading at all. From my own experience, I have two iPhone 7 phones and battery life is appalling during ANY activity. I can literally see the battery draining when I am using the web. It drops around 3-5% every 10 mins. During phone calls it drops around 1-2% every 1-2 minutes.

Everyone I know that has an iPhone 7 has battery issues. I am hoping it will be fixed in a software update. If it's a hardware issue, I am not going to be happy.
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So the iPhone gets worse batter life using protocols (3G) that pretty much no one uses any longer. Got it.

You need to educate yourself a bit more. Many dozens of networks in many dozens of countries only offer 3G tariffs. And even then their 3G networks can be poor. Even in the UK 4G coverage is patchy at best, with only EE offering significant coverage across the country. Other networks in the UK only offer 4G in cities, towns and highly populated areas, the majority of the country gets 3G or even less in remote/coastal locations. In fact, when I was in Cornwall last month I had no coverage at all on my EE & Vodafone devices in various locations.
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This article is using... TALK TIME to measure battery performance???? What is this 1998?

Are you trying to say people don't make phone calls? You should visit planet Earth sometime.
 
The Guardian makes some real nit-picking points in the review. Fluff caught in the antenna bands? What does this guy keep in his pockets? One almost might think they resented the Telegraph getting a review unit, whereas the Guardian did not.

The guardian have taken a real turn for the worse recently. From politics to technology, everything they write is hugely exaggerated and has massive holes. They don't make coherent points anymore; they have a reputation for being one of the better liberal-minded papers, so in an age of declining readership they're trying to become more extreme and make sweeping predictions about how we're all doomed. Basically they're trying to become a left-wing Fox News.

I used to read it. Not any more. Just superficial drivel.
 
To me, looking at the photo, the huge variation between call time and internet (despite having the same battery capacity), only shows that the other contenders fail miserably at optimizing the usage of the battery.

This would indirectly mean that in order to attain the time usage efficiency similar to the iPhone, the contenders would need to ~double their battery capacity (for the losses).

or likewise, if iPhone were to have similar battery capacity as the contenders, the figures would have ~doubled.
 
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While the iPhone is at least useful for a full day of communication, the Apple Watch 2 is even worse when compared to its main competitor, the Samsung Gear S3.

The Apple Watch 2 doesn't even last 24 hours.

Samsung's Gear S3 lasts 3 to 4 days (and it also includes 4G LTE, which Apple doesn't offer).

Apple does have better design, but the S3 is not exactly ugly, so I personally am jumping ship for the S3 because of the battery life. Yes, I want my smart watch to track my sleep, and if I do it with the Apple Watch, I am left with a dead watch by the morning.

Apple has dropped the ball a few too many times lately and it will bite them eventually -- they don't really have a growth product today, for the first time in a decade or so.

But Tim Cook and the rest of the gang have already made their money, so why should they care...?
 
Plenty of people make calls, and even in just Web browsing it still loses. Sounds like your buyer's remorse is kicking in.
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Your buyer's remorse is making you hysterical. Bring sarcastic about it doesn't change that the iPhone 7's battery life is really weak and unacceptable.

Yeah.... the "best battery life EVER in an iPhone", by two full hours is REALLY REALLY hard to adjust to.
Lulz. "Buyer's remorse"???! Roflmao.
Ok, buddy.
This is like the 10th iPhone.
I was expecting it to have the same battery as the last 9. It doesn't. It has even better.
Sooooooo, in your head- I have buyer's remorse??
I. Do. Not. Understand.
Do I believe & admit there are Android flagships with MUCH better battery life?
Sure. But I am an iPhone user.
I clearly felt in all previous iterations I've owned that the battery life was acceptable... how would it INCREASED battery life suddenly now switch to "unacceptable"??!
Sounds like crazy talk to me. *smh*
 
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While the iPhone is at least useful for a full day of communication, the Apple Watch 2 is even worse when compared to its main competitor, the Samsung Gear S3.

The Apple Watch 2 doesn't even last 24 hours.

Samsung's Gear S3 lasts 3 to 4 days (and it also includes 4G LTE, which Apple doesn't offer).

Apple does have better design, but the S3 is not exactly ugly, so I personally am jumping ship for the S3 because of the battery life. Yes, I want my smart watch to track my sleep, and if I do it with the Apple Watch, I am left with a dead watch by the morning.

Apple has dropped the ball a few too many times lately and it will bite them eventually -- they don't really have a growth product today, for the first time in a decade or so.

But Tim Cook and the rest of the gang have already made their money, so why should they care...?

Actually, the AW2 has lasted me more than 24 hours, almost for two days. You just have to be careful what you put in the dock.

I will say my S2 classic is more carefree and battery life still lasts longer than the AW2.
 
I'd actually agree with that - 3G? Doesn't everyone measure using LTE these days?

I thought I was looking at a report from about 4 years ago comparing times on... 3G!?!? I guess 3G is still the standard in the UK otherwise it seems rather odd to do comparison tests with it.
 
I have a 7+ and came from a 2 year old 6+. My 6+ was getting better battery life than my 7+ (which I have had for a week now).

I wonder if something else is going on as there seems to be some people saying that same as me and others that are saying the exact opposite? Different hardware?

I agree with the poster above, when I am browsing on the web I watch my battery drain. When I am running Waze, I am losing 30%+ an hour which seems crazy to me.
 
ACTUALLY i have noticed that my 7 has done exceptionally well against my 6s. I used to have to have the 6s on the charger around 11am this one still has about 50-60% around then. (HEAVY MORNING USER-- workouts etc)
 
I think it is interesting to see the different observations to the iPhone 7. I obviously do not have a scientific study behind me, but my battery life is horrible on the iPhone 7. I have spoken with Apple support about it and reset the settings using iTunes and reinstalled iOS 10 with no serious battery changes. The last battery performance I have is as follows:

Usage: 4 hr, 23 min
Standby: 9 hr, 6 min

3% left.
 
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