Which processor is faster?

[justinshiding]

Dude, get the Mac. The 1.33 G4 IS faster than a 1.5 Pentium in every one of those apps. Clock for Clock a G4=1.3 P4's ... in most apps.

Also, OS X kicks ass over Winblows.. Mac's have a lot longer shelf life than winblows computers... thus their much higher re-sale value.

get the Mac and don't look back.

I agreed with everything you say....except for the part about the G4 being faster than the Pentium M....Especially the second generation of pentium M chips which (if i recall correctly) have 2mb of l2 cache (might have been l3 but im pretty sure it was 2.) They out preform p4's even though the p4 chips run at much higher clock speeds. Also, they get amazing battery life. They're actually VERY good chips...that being said I would go with the mac. They're prettier 😉

 

[HiRez]

Let me put it this way: I spent the whole last week on the road working on a 2.4 GHz Pentium PC as a primary machine for graphics in Photoshop and PowerPoint. While I got the job done, I was kicking myself the whole time for not bringing along my old 800 MHz PowerBook, because I know I could have gotten the job done in half the time on it. Not the processing speed, but interacting with the OS, trying to network two computers, waiting for virus scans, several crashes, etc. If they weren't paying me a lot of money to use them, there's no way I ever would. Trust me, get the Mac.

 

[UnixMac]

I agreed with everything you say....except for the part about the G4 being faster than the Pentium M....Especially the second generation of pentium M chips which (if i recall correctly) have 2mb of l2 cache (might have been l3 but im pretty sure it was 2.) They out preform p4's even though the p4 chips run at much higher clock speeds. Also, they get amazing battery life. They're actually VERY good chips...that being said I would go with the mac. They're prettier 😉

yeah, I don't know about the 2MB L2 version, I haven't kept up with the developments on this.. the original centrino I was told is a 1.3 ratio to the G4 with altivec coded software. This could be out of date info however.

 

[CaptainCaveMann]

CaptainCaveMan, why not just go ahead and get that iBook? You've been ummming and aaaring about it for some time in several threads. Mac's aren't always quite as fast as PCs in raw speed, but they are not so much slower that it's worth getting the PC just for speed. The Mac has plenty of other useability and productivity advantages to warrant getting it over the PC, as edesignuk said at the start of this thread.

I know Johnny ive been carefully weighing options and spec and all the other stuff for a while now but im still waiting im gonna wait untill panther is standard on every mac laptop thats when im gonna buy

 

[zen_state]

I know Johnny ive been carefully weighing options and spec and all the other stuff for a while now but im still waiting im gonna wait untill panther is standard on every mac laptop thats when im gonna buy

panther has been standard on every mac for over a year man. I assume you mean tiger and that won't be for at least 3-4 months (maybe 4-6).

about the P4 vs G4 thing.. how can you even compare them in the first place when they are both so totally different and really have nothing in common other than the fact they are both cpu's.

macs serve one purpose and pc's serve another so you need to choose based on what purpose you need your laptop to serve. do you do things that would be better either way or are you more of a fence sitter user? most are.

the question is not what is faster but what you need. if you choose based only on speed you have a 50% chance of not being happy. its just like game consoles. different ones suit different people.

 

[UnixMac]

panther has been standard on every mac for over a year man. I assume you mean tiger and that won't be for at least 3-4 months (maybe 4-6).

about the P4 vs G4 thing.. how can you even compare them in the first place when they are both so totally different and really have nothing in common other than the fact they are both cpu's.

macs serve one purpose and pc's serve another so you need to choose based on what purpose you need your laptop to serve. do you do things that would be better either way or are you more of a fence sitter user? most are.

the question is not what is faster but what you need. if you choose based only on speed you have a 50% chance of not being happy. its just like game consoles. different ones suit different people.

This makes a lot of sense, cause speed is tied into a lot of variables like OS, Application coding, etc... so in a nutshell.. Get the Mac. OS X by itself is reason enough.

 

[Alexandernap]

Pentium M vs G4

I am new to Macs but I just replaced my IBM t40 Pent M 1.3 with a 1ghz iBook. I can tell you that comparitively my iBook seems much faster. Before I purchased it I was very concerned about the speed, being the low end of the line. I cannot believe how fast it is compared to the IBM. Games are probably about equal (my IBM had an ATI Radeon 7500 Otherwise I am sure the IBM would have been better). I do not use photoshop so I cannot answer that. The amazing w the iBook and OSX is how many programs you can have open at the same time without taking a hit in performance. I would not hesitate to purchase an iBook again. I assumed I would be taking a performance hit when I bought it, but I can say for what I use it for, it beats the IBM by about 10% and probably 30% with several programs open.

 

[UnixMac]

I am new to Macs but I just replaced my IBM t40 Pent M 1.3 with a 1ghz iBook. I can tell you that comparitively my iBook seems much faster. Before I purchased it I was very concerned about the speed, being the low end of the line. I cannot believe how fast it is compared to the IBM. Games are probably about equal (my IBM had an ATI Radeon 7500 Otherwise I am sure the IBM would have been better). I do not use photoshop so I cannot answer that. The amazing w the iBook and OSX is how many programs you can have open at the same time without taking a hit in performance. I would not hesitate to purchase an iBook again. I assumed I would be taking a performance hit when I bought it, but I can say for what I use it for, it beats the IBM by about 10% and probably 30% with several programs open.

Completely anecdotal but it makes my point, thanks.

 

[justinshiding]

yeah, I don't know about the 2MB L2 version, I haven't kept up with the developments on this.. the original centrino I was told is a 1.3 ratio to the G4 with altivec coded software. This could be out of date info however.

Yup , I checked, here's an example of one thats on newegg. 2mb of L2 cache...yummy

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=34-115-167&depa=3

Also here's a tom's hardware review of the newer pentium M chips

http://www4.tomshardware.com/mobile/20040510/index.html

 

[Counterfit]

Dude, get the Mac. The 1.33 G4 IS faster than a 1.5 Pentium in every one of those apps. Clock for Clock a G4=1.3 P4's ... in most apps.

Except a Pentium M isn't a Pentium 4. It's based on the Pentium 3, and much more efficient per clock cycle than a Pentium 4.

 

[CaptainCaveMann]

panther has been standard on every mac for over a year man. I assume you mean tiger and that won't be for at least 3-4 months (maybe 4-6).

about the P4 vs G4 thing.. how can you even compare them in the first place when they are both so totally different and really have nothing in common other than the fact they are both cpu's.

macs serve one purpose and pc's serve another so you need to choose based on what purpose you need your laptop to serve. do you do things that would be better either way or are you more of a fence sitter user? most are.

the question is not what is faster but what you need. if you choose based only on speed you have a 50% chance of not being happy. its just like game consoles. different ones suit different people.

I meant tiger sorry