Which shipment of MBA is in stores now?

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  1. cityathrt macrumors regular

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    I'm extremely excited as I'm about to head out the door to go buy my first Mac product. Does anyone know if stores are still selling MBAs from the first shipment? I was wondering if I ought to wait longer to purchase because first shipments are sometimes plagued with manufacturing defects, but if I have to struggle along with my dang PC notebook any longer, I might just scream. Or, is Apple's QC so good that I should just go ahead and buy one with no worries?
     
  2. Oppressed macrumors 65816

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    If you call Toshiba SSD's a "defect" then you might want to hold out a bit.
     
  3. OSMac, Jul 29, 2011
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    If your concerned buy with a return policy at the Apple Store or else where.

    I think you'll love it,
    the trackpad / gestures alone on Apple laptops are worth the admission price!

    Every new product the forums are full of folks looking for issues,
    usually they amount to very little in the long run.
     
  4. cityathrt thread starter macrumors regular

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    Haha, I'll admit that I've been obsessively pouring over MR since the MBAs were released. As long as I can't tell the difference, I don't care what SSD or screen I have.

    Oppressed -- will later MBAs all ship with Samsungs? That seems unfair to early adopters..

    But in any case, headed out to my nearest Apple store!
     
  5. hcho3 macrumors 68030

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    I checked both LG and Samsung. They look pretty much same to me...

    SSD is a different story. GET SAMSUNG ones. NOT TOSHIBA ONES.

    Samsung is like 50-60 faster. That's a lot of difference.

    Seriously, people who get Toshiba SSD should get a price break or something.

    Luckily, I have Samsung panel and Samsung SSD.
     
  6. ovrlrd macrumors 65816

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    Sigh.

    For the millionth time there is no noticeable difference between the parts.

    Also, when they manufacture MBAs they just take from a "pile" of parts. Toshiba and Samsung are mixed in the same "pile" as there is no reason to separate them once they are ready to be placed in new computers. Which means it doesn't matter when it gets manufactured.
     
  7. Oppressed macrumors 65816

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    Nothing is fact since Apple will never openly admit this problem, but all we have to go by are rumors. Rumors state that Apple is using up all of the older Toshiba models. Therefore once they run out of the older model then all that should be left are Samsung.
     
  8. ovrlrd macrumors 65816

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    You are assuming that they plan on getting rid of the Toshiba, who's to say that they don't have plenty to last all the way until sometime next year? To be honest Apple are masters of the supply chain. They know exactly how to make the most money possible, if they can keep purchasing cheap SSDs from Toshiba (or Samsung) they will keep at it. They don't care about the performance as long as it's within their specs, and the Toshiba is within spec, despite what tons of people seem to think about the performance difference (there is none).
     
  9. go4theko macrumors member

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    go to the apple store right now and buy it. You wont regret your decision. Been against mac all my life. but since i got an iphone 2 years ago and my macbook air 1 week ago. I'm all about it baby haha.

    chugging the apple kool aid
     
  10. kingtj macrumors 68020

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    Hey, life's too short ...

    ... to spend all of it bashing the Mac!

    Seriously, I spent a LONG time preaching the anti-Mac thing myself. I was into computers and I.T. from the time the first "PC compatibles" hit the market. Back then, it seemed like every vendor had a totally incompatible computer system and everyone was fighting the "My Commodore beats your Trash-80!", and "My Atari trumps your T/I 99!" battles. Of course, the old Apple //e and eventually, the original Macs were part of that scuffle as well.

    So when all the computer-makers started *standardizing*, it seemed like THE way to go. Apple was viewed as the stubborn, lone hold-out that didn't get what everyone else was trying to do.

    And wow ... by the mid 1990's, Apple really seemed like they were digging themselves a grave! I made the mistake of feeling guilty I "hadn't spent much time on the Apple side of the computer fence" back in '96 or '97 and invested in a Mac Performa tower and peripherals. I *wanted* to like that system but it was honestly so poor, all-around, I only kept it about 4 months before selling it at a loss and thinking "Never again! Macs are a joke!" I mean, MacOS had trouble doing such basic things as multitasking well enough to format floppy disks in the background ... and the built-in video on that Performa couldn't even do "millions of colors" except in the lowest resolution, due to insufficient video memory.

    But since Jobs resurrected them and OS X started moving forward, it's simply a whole different company and product-line. And today, the same "everything's compatible with everything else" that used to be such a big plus is NOW more of a minus. We're all spoon-fed whatever Microsoft crams down our collective throats -- and the PC is just a commodity, like a washer or microwave oven. Boring!

    Apple's been one of the only companies really bringing me computer gear I've been able to get excited about again, like I used to be about everything back in the late 80's .... So yeah, they're not perfect, and if all you care about are the "specs", you'll always be able to work some numbers to show that some Apple product isn't "as good a deal" as some other company's product. But it's really about way more than just some benchmark scores and stats. The popularity of the iPad over every single competing tablet (often with better specs) should illustrate that, if nothing else does!


     
  11. cityathrt thread starter macrumors regular

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    Thank you for the replies everyone! I'm now standing in the apple store.. And surprisingly conflicted! I thought I'd waltz in, get the 13 and waltz out. That was until I played with the 11 and found it darned cute, and it fits into my bag... Great. Still deciding.
     
  12. go4theko macrumors member

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    main computer = 13in
    secondary/portable/ accompanied by external display = 11in.


     
  13. cityathrt thread starter macrumors regular

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    I know, that seems to be the general consensus and precisely what I was going off of... until I saw the 11 in in person. I've loaded a few programs and the screen really doesn't feel too bad for me. I'm more concerned about the slower processor, smaller battery, and lack of SD card reader. :( ??
     
  14. cityathrt thread starter macrumors regular

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    And.. after much, much, much dithering (I stood there for an hour...) I ended up with the 11 inch! I haven't had the courage to check my SSD yet, but it came pre installed with Lion (the specialist told me apparently that hasn't been the case). I just couldn't pass up its slim form factor and how ultra, ultra portable it was. Compared to it.. the 13 was mammoth. It fit perfectly into my medium - small bag, which is a key point for ladies. :)

    On a sidenote, I educated the specialist regarding the different SSD and display screen brands.. haha.
     
  15. Oppressed macrumors 65816

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    Glad you like it! Also makes me wonder if the Apple "specialists" aren't just playing dumb every time the SSD question comes up. Any Apple store with decent foot traffic should have heard about it from someone by now.
     
  16. Bulldog3777 macrumors 6502

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    11 mba

    I got the 11 MBA and I do not care about Samsung, Toshiba or LG. I love it. It fits perfectly under the airline seat and the 13 does not(I have the 13 MBP). Always had to lay the bag flat and that meant no room for my feet. You are gonna really love it.
     
  17. go4theko macrumors member

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    All the new macairs and mac minis come preinstalled with lion. yeah the 11" is definitely the ideal ultraportable. if you are comfortable with the wide display and lack of palm area then the 11" is perfect. definitely better aesthetically than the 13" in terms of the cool 'sexy' factor

     
  18. cityathrt thread starter macrumors regular

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    I don't mind the wide display and the smaller palm rest, because the palm rest is still big enough for my purposes. However, one thing I'm struggling with (and I suspect it's starting to give me a headache) is the small, small text! I've been comparing it nonstop with my HP 13 inch all night long, and while a lot of my struggles is due to my unfamiliarity with OSX, the smaller text definitely stands out. Web pages are fine, but text in say mail and general system text (such as when poking around in system preferences), *man* that text is tiny!

    1) Is this system text adjustable, and
    2) how much bigger is the 13 inch's text?
    3) I've got my system on natural scrolling, which is fine as I'll get used to it. But.. sideways scrolling isn't natural -- is there any way I can adjust this?

    I was originally put off by the 11 inch because of the shorter battery life, but I find the 11's to adjust to whatever I'm doing at the time, so I have seen estimates of up to five hours remaining. I don't mind the lack of a SD card reader as much, as I can always buy an adapter.
     
  19. Typswif2fingers, Jul 29, 2011
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    for mail 1) preferences>fonts and colours (plus if you are opening an attachment in an email you can command+ it to increase the text. The command works everywhere else. If you are using Safari you can adjust the text in preferences>advanced, or get AllPagesZoom extension)

    3) not sure what you mean.. the natural scrolling follows the movement of the gesture, i.e. slide to the left.. it slides to the left...(talking about the desktop slide)...
     
  20. cityathrt thread starter macrumors regular

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    Oh, I might need to eat my words regarding the small text giving me a headache, I just realized I had the screen brightness on 50%. So after turning it up to 100%.. voila! The words are easier to read as well. (Such a d'oh moment).

    Regards to sideways scrolling -- another d'oh moment. The content follows the direction of my scroll, but the scroll bar goes the other direction. I was looking at the scroll bar and trying to get it follow the direction of my scroll. Ha.. ha.. ha..

    Brilliant! I increased the text size in mail. I'm also exploring doing the same for the content with other programs. Thank you so much! Is it possible to expand the text for the system functions themselves? Ie when I'm in Safari and go up to the toolbars (ie. file, edit, etc) is it possible to enlarge the text of those windows?

    Thanks so much for catering to my unbelievably noob questions! I feel so silly in not knowing how to use the laptop's operating system.
     
  21. KPOM macrumors G5

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    Congratulations. I switched to the 11" from the 13" a few months ago and it was the best decision I made. I've used the MacBook Air since the Rev A, and the i7 11" model is my favorite by far.

    Actually, Lion reversed the scrolling for all of us, including existing Mac users, so don't worry if it takes a little getting used to. Today is Day 8 for me for Lion and my 2011 MacBook Air, and I'm pretty much used to it by now, even though I use a Windows notebook at the office and am switching back and forth all the time.

    Which model 11" did you get? Is it the i5 or the i7, and 128GB or 256GB (or did you go with the true base 64GB model)?
     
  22. cityathrt thread starter macrumors regular

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    (smiles sheepishly) I'm sure there are those who read my thread and roll their eyes so far into their head that you can't find the eyeballs anymore.

    I got the i5 (didn't want the hotter + fan inducing i7, didn't feel like I needed the additional speed) and the 128 GB model. I'm hoping.. there isn't much difference between the 1.7 ghz of the 13 inch model and the 1.6 ghz of the 11 inch model, is there? I finally mustered up the nerve and checked to see that I got a Samsung SSD, but this baby is snappy as heck! I don't want to touch my HP at this point. :)

    Would anyone happen to know if it's possible to increase the system text -- ie. the various windows accessible from preferences? As you can follow above, I've learned how to increase content text in the applications, but stuff such as the Safari bookmarks are still eye poppingly small. Does the 13 inch offer that much of a text size increase?
     
  23. KPOM macrumors G5

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    Click on the little display icon on the right hand side of the menu bar. Select 1152x720 (stretched) whenever you want larger text. You lose some vertical space, but it works OK in a pinch.
     
  24. VMMan macrumors 6502a

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    I can't stand the natural scrolling feature. I turned it off in the Settings panel.
     
  25. Typswif2fingers macrumors 6502

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    Mate, don't worry about people rolling their eyes.. No question is stupid.. Only the answers (usually mine :) ).

    Id love to help you, but I only try to help those with a 13" MBA..

    So sorry.


    :D


    Not sure, I think there is no way to increase the system font (menu bars, etc.) short of changing the display size as someone mentioned before.. Only thing that is changeable (so far I know) is the finder side bar icon size (preferences>general>change side bar icon size).

    Apart from that... ah yes.. get someone else to read it for you :D
     

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