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I was going to get a 13 mbp and an SSD but I like playing the waiting game from some reason and getting better hardware. So I am deciding to get the 15in MBP. Wait for 2 years and upgrade to a SSD with newer technologies and more reasonable prices....hope my perspective helps you make your decision.
 
Given that Intel are due to bring out new and higher capacity drives quite soon, what are the chances of a significant price drop when this happens or at least in the near future? Worth waiting a little bit or not?
 
There is a nice write up on the some of the Sandforce controller based SSD's on PC Perspective.
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=911&type=expert&pid=1
Here is what they had to say on the Sandforce and TRIM
TRIM

SandForce units see only a slight performance drop as they are filled to capacity. As you can see above in the HDTach passes, writes are never really effected, but a drop in read speeds is seen, likely due to the way the Sandforce controller copes with the additional overhead of tracking previous random writes. This only seems to effect some very specific types of reads, and we saw a minimal impact on overall performance. Our TRIM test focuses on these specific weaknesses, and we were able to see TRIM functioning as expected under Windows 7. Impact was marginal, however, since performance remains very good with write speeds pegged regardless of the state of internal fragmentation. Short version: Writes are so fast and performance remains so high that TRIM is not needed to keep the speeds up.
 
Given that Intel are due to bring out new and higher capacity drives quite soon, what are the chances of a significant price drop when this happens or at least in the near future? Worth waiting a little bit or not?

Don't expect a "significant" price drop anytime soon. Demand is far outstripping RAM suppliers right now. You can thank Apple for some of that. :p
 
so many haters!

anyways, like i said earlier, Crucial m225 for the win. cost me 480 shipped brand new for a 256 GB. Has Garbage Collection if you want it. If you don't, you can downgrade the firmware. Win Win! If you want a cheap SSD, theres a g.skill 256 gb ssd going for very cheap on ebay.

That's a great price! As an early adopter mine cost much more. I've been very happy with it over the last 8 months. No noticeable slow down.
 
I installed the crucial C300 256gb ssd and it's unreal. It's in a 17" i7 mbp and rivals my tower with 16gb and a velociraptor hd. And by rivals I mean it beats it on basically everything.
 
Under 500 dollars, which is the best SSD with garbage collection and will not degrade performance over time? Im looking for 150GB+

OCZ? but i heard they have problems. Intel doesnt have garbage collection? Some help plz

I have a 512GB Kingston SNVP325-S2/512GB, and this is a quote direct from their website (in reference to the SSDnow V+ series):

Features:

* Innovative – Uses MLC NAND flash memory components.
* Silent – Runs silent and cool with no moving mechanical parts.
* Shock Proof – No moving mechanical parts so the SSD handles rougher conditions.
* Supports TRIM – Enhances device wear leveling by eliminating merge operation for all deleted data blocks
* Supports S.M.A.R.T. functions
* Guaranteed – 3 year legendary Kingston warranty, 24/7 tech support
* Cache – 128MB onboard cache
* Garbage collection feature – Enables high SSD write performance even when operating system does not support TRIM

I use this drive heavily and have never seen any slowdown after a little more than a month's use. I copy LOADS of data to and from this drive constantly, and have expected a greater slowdown than I've seen (especially considering I haven't seen ANY slowdown). Granted, this is a $1400 HD, but you can still pick up some of the smaller capacities for something reasonable. From what I understand, ALL the SNVP325 models have this built-in GC feature, based on Toshiba's chipset, AND is one of the few drives to support TRIM right out-of-box. Beware the SNVP225, based on Samsung's chipset that does NOT have this feature.
 
I have a 512GB Kingston SNVP325-S2/512GB, and this is a quote direct from their website (in reference to the SSDnow V+ series):

Features:

* Innovative – Uses MLC NAND flash memory components.
* Silent – Runs silent and cool with no moving mechanical parts.
* Shock Proof – No moving mechanical parts so the SSD handles rougher conditions.
* Supports TRIM – Enhances device wear leveling by eliminating merge operation for all deleted data blocks
* Supports S.M.A.R.T. functions
* Guaranteed – 3 year legendary Kingston warranty, 24/7 tech support
* Cache – 128MB onboard cache
* Garbage collection feature – Enables high SSD write performance even when operating system does not support TRIM

I use this drive heavily and have never seen any slowdown after a little more than a month's use. I copy LOADS of data to and from this drive constantly, and have expected a greater slowdown than I've seen (especially considering I haven't seen ANY slowdown). Granted, this is a $1400 HD, but you can still pick up some of the smaller capacities for something reasonable. From what I understand, ALL the SNVP325 models have this built-in GC feature, based on Toshiba's chipset, AND is one of the few drives to support TRIM right out-of-box. Beware the SNVP225, based on Samsung's chipset that does NOT have this feature.

How much did you buy it for?

I think Im going to wait for Intel's G3 which is coming out soon
 
FOR OSX STICK WITH SANDFORCE 1200 DRIVES

VERTEX 2
CORSAIR FORCE
OWC MERCURY EXTREME
PATRIOT INFERNO
G SKILL PHEONIX.

sorry to pee on your parade but the shoddy advice dished out on here is terrible.

Intel, C300 and any other older models will lose significant performance once all the sectors have been written to which means once you have filled it up and deleted some space your performance can be up to 80% less!

Read performance is normally ok on some drives even when used which gives the impression that its still fast. But when you look at the drive in write performance you will notice its not sluggish.

Im surprised how much duff info is dished out on this forum and im even more surprised how often its listened too.
 
kingston v+100

it has very aggressive garbage collection that work with any os.
no need for trim and works better with any os that doesn't have trim support such as OSX!

it has same Toshiba controller and mechanism similar to apple ssd in new mac book air (late 2010).

i am going to order one soon!

check more info at anandtech.com
 
So it is better to use an SSD with that Toshiba controler in OS X then the Sandforce used in lets say the OCZ Vertex 2?
 
As of now, support for Macs is limited; OWC produces a SSD which is geared toward Macs and through my own observations, they seem to be better experienced with Macs than other companies. A gazillion and a half Mac people have used the Intel X-25 and are very, very happy with it.

Since I started using my OWC SSD, there has been no accumulation of garbage.

Also, given Intel is about to update their design and the SandForce 2000 is about to be released as well, it is likely the situation will be different 3 months from now.
 
if you want an SSD that does what it is supposed to, and will do so for years & years (unless you are writing 20+ gigs a day to it) then just go with OWC (macsales.com) SSDs

so simple.

quite wasting your time reading FUD in threads like this. Just write the folks at OWC and ask them your questions directly. In fact, for that matter, write any manufacturer directly - then google sites which do independent reviews of these drives....sites which actually ---test--- the drives in real-world conditions.

I did this, and that is why my MBP 320 gig HDD now sits in my former optic-drive bay..and a 60 gb OWC SSD is my boot.
OWC drives are ridiculously fast, well-priced, and perform as advertised.
 
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