UPDATE: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?promo=ExperienceMore I guess not. Anyone know if Tiger will include the iLife '05 vers. of the Apps? I would think it should. I know when I ordered Panther, the iApps were included (i believe) and I could do clean installs with just the Panther disc. (not my Jaguar discs that came with the system) This was before ilife '04 came out. Right now I have a fairly new PM that came with ilife '04 and '05 was released after I bought the system. Sorry if this has been asked, if so I didn't see the post.