Considering the sandy bridge cpu and chipset support 32gb, theoretically it's possible.
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Which Would last longer, the Regular Macbook Pro or the Retina Edition?
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Considering the sandy bridge cpu and chipset support 32gb, theoretically it's possible.
Most of the improvements were related to the move to i5 and i7 processors I think... they didn't change the core design much. Apple never do.
What's wrong with the current rMBP for Apple to change? The "scroll lag" won't be magically fixed next generation. It's a software issue related to single-threaded scrolling being run on the CPU. Offload it to the GPU, or make it multi-threaded, and you're sorted.
The next gen rMBP will have an updated processor, and a new GPU if a new chip is available. Perhaps up to 32GB of memory and larger SSDs.
I very much doubt there will be any other changes. You can't fix what isn't broken
I'm pretty sure when someone spends three thousand dollars on something they expect it to last longer than 3 years.
Just one of the significant changes was to get rid of the old, slow processor. Replacing it with a current one, along with a choice. Go to Apple.com
The differences made a huge improvement that's well known. I know, I buy every revision, but I wouldn't suggest it. I buy them all because I'm a laptop addict that keeps the ones I like, and pass the other ones on.
Therefore I have firsthand experience & don't have to rely on others. Nothing beats buying them upon release & using it in your regular environment.
I am on a 4-year old pre-unibody 2008 MBP. I bought it maxed out at 200GB and 4GB RAM. The only thing I did to it was replace the HD with a 500GB one (and buy spare batteries). It's still doing the job but progressively getting slower, making me fill the waiting time with longing for a new MBP.
I'm thinking about getting a maxed-out MBPR with 16GB/768GB SSD in the hope that it would last me another 4 years.
SSD prices are falling, so by the time a replacement is needed, they may be significantly cheaper.
I have read a lot about the rMBP here and elsewhere, and I have a different concern. In several posts, new rMBP owners mention pressure spots. Does that mean you can't allow anything of moderate weight (books in a backpack for example) to put pressure on top of the rMBP because that could cause pressure spots? My 2010 15" MBP may have from 5-15 lbs putting pressure on it at any time and no pressure spots or any damage from this--is the rMBP as durable, or does it have to be babied?
I have read a lot about the rMBP here and elsewhere, and I have a different concern. In several posts, new rMBP owners mention pressure spots. Does that mean you can't allow anything of moderate weight (books in a backpack for example) to put pressure on top of the rMBP because that could cause pressure spots? My 2010 15" MBP may have from 5-15 lbs putting pressure on it at any time and no pressure spots or any damage from this--is the rMBP as durable, or does it have to be babied?
I'm not so much into the SSD's, but when you say "degrade", how do you then mean it? How does a SSD degrade?
The flash blocks can only be written to a number of times before they stop taking reads. It used to be little but nowadays SSDs can be written to many times over the life of the laptop without adverse effects.
Your data will still be there and it can be read, it's only the writing part that will fail. (theoretically. of course, there's still a chance of drive failure leading to data loss like with any other drive).
I was just saying you can be confident that it will be fine for 3 years and if anything goes wrong its covered. After that, anything can happen, so its better to sell it, rather than end up with a paper weight.
I also think its so funny that people think $3000 is a lot of money for a computer! I remember when they were $10,000. I spent almost $5000 on my Mac Pro in 2008 and I am now selling it and replacing it with the rMBP.
I guess it's a lot of money if you just use it as a toy/web browser....but I use my computer to make a living. My Mac Pro was an investment and more than paid for itself on the first job! The rMBP is the same thing to me....so I don't see $3000 as a lot of money, when it can make me much more than that in the long run!
do you think anti glare version would come out for the retina? with the silver bezel and matte screen
No
Edit. I apologize if this post seemed rude.
There won't be one because there is no glass. Therefore there wouldn't be the metal bezel either. The glass IS the screen. Also its not as reflective as before iirc
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A old time Mac using buddy of mine, who writes for religious blogs, calls this his First Mac Commandment: Thou shalt NOT buy a revision 'A'!
People tend to underestimate how long well cared laptops last. I have a few vintage Apple portable, my oldest ones are my Powerbook 180 (which I paid more then 3 grand BTW), Powerbook 2400, and a WallStreet Powerbook G4 - although kept in storage but all working (I play with them once a month).
My still useful but obsolete laptops that are in service are my 12" Powerbook G4, a Core Duo Macbook, and the first unibody Macbook which are being used by family members for surfing and email.
The oldest Mac I have "on hand" is a 13" 2009 Macbook Pro which is considered by conventional wisdom as ripe for replacement because it is past the three year mark but I plan to keep it for several more years as a backup Mac. Maybe I'm lucky that all my Macs so far are trouble fee but I'm convinced that with proper care these machines will last you for a long time.
I can imagine my retina Macbook Pro should be able to handle my work for at least half a decade or more.
My still useful but obsolete laptops that are in service are my 12" Powerbook G4, a Core Duo Macbook, and the first unibody Macbook which are being used by family members for surfing and email.
The oldest Mac I have "on hand" is a 13" 2009 Macbook Pro which is considered by conventional wisdom as ripe for replacement because it is past the three year mark but I plan to keep it for several more years as a backup Mac. Maybe I'm lucky that all my Macs so far are trouble fee but I'm convinced that with proper care these machines will last you for a long time.
I can imagine my retina Macbook Pro should be able to handle my work for at least half a decade or more.
But the longer you keep them, the less their resale value is. Keep them long enough and nobody will want them. I would rather sell my current computer every 3 years and use that money as an upgrade rather than hang on to the old ones and let them collect dust.
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The retina is anti-glare. Look it up on youtube, you will see a DRAMATIC difference between the last gen and now.
Quite true. In my case, I tend to use my Macs for a long time simply because the computing needs of my work is quite modest as I'm a translator for international legal documents and contracts so I usually don't feel the pressure to upgrade my hardware regularly unlike folks in the video editing and design fields. I tend to look at it this way, my hardware pays for itself through my trade so I don't have that much regret holding depreciated hardware longer then most.
However, the point of my post is not about depreciation of hardware value but the fact that the OP's worries are unfounded as computing hardware tend to last longer then most people expect.
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http://m.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-reliability-failure-rate,2923.html
Interesting (and long) post about SSD vs HDD when it comes to reliability.
At 10GB/day write, it might take 100+ years before your drive gives out.
Interesting (and long) post about SSD vs HDD when it comes to reliability.
At 10GB/day write, it might take 100+ years before your drive gives out.
You are correct. Based on my past experience with older notebooks, with proper care, either machine will last long enough that it does not matter which you choose.
regardless that the retina macbook pro has parts that are not upgradbale or replacable?
The rMBP is already struggling a bit with graphic intensive 2012 games. Next year or two, the rMBP with not be able to keep up with the new generation games; rendering it obsolete for the serious gamers.
The cMBP got a few more years before its graphic capability becomes obsolete; so the cMBP is a better long term investment.
The cMBP got a few more years before its graphic capability becomes obsolete; so the cMBP is a better long term investment.
I'm talking about the actual lifespan of the hardware. As I said I have decade old Macs that are still working. So I believe, both machines should last just as long.
Perhaps you mean the usefulness of the notebook due to higher software requirements in the future? Definitely, as you can upgrade the hard disk and RAM of the regular umbp. However by the time software demands catch up on hardware power and you truly need to upgrade, it will probably be more efficient to buy a new machine.
I hope you don't believe that.
Here is my favorite quote on the topic from gmkos @ Tom's Hardware:
I hope you don't believe that.
Here is my favorite quote on the topic from gmkos @ Tom's Hardware:
is intels SLC?
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both have the same graphics though? and there not replacablle