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i believe it's the fault of a pink silicon case like this one:

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You aren't accounting for improved power sources and shrinking die sizes. The chips become faster and smaller with lower wattage consumption which reduces heat. TDP will get lower and lower.

Mostly right.

However, TDP doesn't really change much over time. The TDP for a desktop processor stays within some range, as does the TDP for a laptop processor and a smart phone. Granted, the processors become exponentially more powerful each year, but they tend to use the same amount of power. (actually, power consumption has been increasing - the Pentium was around 10-20 W, Pentium 4 was 30-40 W and Core 2 Duo is 40-60 W (except the extreme versions which are over 100 W).

If they did reduce TDP year after year, our laptops would run 24 hours on a charge and you could run a cell phone for weeks with a single AA battery.
 
Actually, that's not the biggest problem. The biggest problem is that one scammer posts some mindless complaint and within hours 1,000 web sites have picked it up and spread it as gospel truth, maybe adding some 'expert' comments and pretending that the 'problem' is widespread. Maybe even talking about recalls and class action suits.

LOL, so true.
 
Sorry but, it's from overheating. My friend is going bareback with his 16GB 3GS and the thing is turing brownish orange under the Apple logo (to the left). He's never had it in a case once. It just has an invisibleSHIELD on the front.
Its probably from his brown leather pants or his holster or his pouch or his cheap dock or his pants pocket or his purse or 10000 other things. It hard to believe some people can't figure out they did it themselves.
 
Uh, me for one. Cases take away from the innate sexiness and the invisible skins don't feel right. Despite my old 3G's nudity, it didn't gain a scratch last year. If someone as clumsy as me can get away without a case anyone can.

My Macbook Pro also kicks it in the buff and looks flawless.

Am I the only person whose chrome area on the front of the phone gets scratced to hell!!??? Particularly the top edge? I had my 2G constantly in various different cases from day 1, and it still ended up scratched and had little gauges. This time, I'm going without a case for my white 3GS, and low and behold...the chrome is already scratched up again. It's not like I put this in my pocket near change or keys or anything. I was thrilled back when the rumor of the non-chrome front was posted. But, here it is again--scratched.

Does anyone else also think there is a wider gap between the black screen edge and the chrome? I can easily fit my fingernail in between. I have a 3G screen crystal screen cover on it, but I still notice lint and crap getting stuck in the edges....that never happened on my 2G, and it's getting annoying.:mad:
 
Am I the only person whose chrome area on the front of the phone gets scratced to hell!!??? Particularly the top edge? I had my 2G constantly in various different cases from day 1, and it still ended up scratched and had little gauges. This time, I'm going without a case for my white 3GS, and low and behold...the chrome is already scratched up again. It's not like I put this in my pocket near change or keys or anything. I was thrilled back when the rumor of the non-chrome front was posted. But, here it is again--scratched.

Does anyone else also think there is a wider gap between the black screen edge and the chrome? I can easily fit my fingernail in between. I have a 3G screen crystal screen cover on it, but I still notice lint and crap getting stuck in the edges....that never happened on my 2G, and it's getting annoying.:mad:

The chrome is very soft and will always be scratched. Nothing you can do about that. Cases will scratch it as well.

The gap is there because there is now a gasket that sits between the glass and the internals. This is a result of Apple gluing the glass on rather than attaching it to the device.
 
And in a related news story, a man from Iowa has made bold clams that his new iPhone 3GS smelled like crap! The resulting press and Apple haters had a field day with this news! That was, until it was later reported that the man was actually using his iPhone to wipe his ass... The man stands by his claim and says it still shouldn't smell that way! :eek:

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And in a related news story, a man from Iowa has made bold clams that his new iPhone 3GS smelled like crap! The resulting press and Apple haters had a field day with this news! That was, until it was later reported that the man was actually using his iPhone to wipe his ass... The man stands by his claim and says it still shouldn't smell that way! :eek:

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That would also explain the brown stains...
 
The chrome is very soft and will always be scratched. Nothing you can do about that. Cases will scratch it as well.

OMG... Why are you even trying to explain these things to people?

EVERYTHING can and will scratch!

Paint, plastic, metal, wood, vinyl, leather, glass, sandpaper, diamonds, the surface of the moon....

Everything else.. Will scratch!

Why is this such a surprise to people? Have they never owned a new car and within hours, days or weeks (if your lucky) you start noticing little micro scratches here and there... well big news flash they multiply with time and use.... Okay... I've actually got three things that won't scratch or if they do it will not be detectable.

- Liquid
- Gas
- Plasma
- Carbon Nanotubes, Nano-particles and/or Buckyballs.

:p

Dave
 
That would also explain the brown stains...

Yes my good man, I think it surly would and since I'm not getting with in 10 feet of that specific 3GS, I've decided to call an end to this specific investigation and move on to 'less browner' pastures. :D

Dave
 
Lordy. What sort of fascist state do you live in? :confused: :)

"Obamastan"!, my friend, of course...

Where the philosophy of the government is to take your wealth to spread around as they see fit and hire ACORN thugs, aka COI (pronounced coy), to take the 2010 census! :D

And just you refuse to answer the intrusive questions of the government census and see what kind of fascist state you live in also! :eek:
 
OMG... Why are you even trying to explain these things to people?

EVERYTHING can and will scratch!

Paint, plastic, metal, wood, vinyl, leather, glass, sandpaper, diamonds, the surface of the moon....

Everything else.. Will scratch!

Why is this such a surprise to people? Have they never owned a new car and within hours, days or weeks (if your lucky) you start noticing little micro scratches here and there... well big news flash they multiply with time and use.... Okay... I've actually got three things that won't scratch or if they do it will not be detectable.

- Liquid
- Gas
- Plasma
- Carbon Nanotubes, Nano-particles and/or Buckyballs.

:p

Dave

Don't kill the messenger. I'm only providing an answer to someone who is apparently so ignorant of simple, common-sense things that they bitch and complain.
 
jesus, it's a phone it's going to get scratched.

I keep mine in my pocket with no case and it looks brand new. Just don't put nails and tacks in your pocket.
 
jesus, it's a phone it's going to get scratched. I keep mine in my pocket with no case and it looks brand new. Just don't put nails and tacks in your pocket.

How's about, staples & rivets... you didn't say anything about staples & rivets so they're okay right?... oh and what about my jacks (I lost the ball ages ago) but I can't go without those great little pointy jacks. Sometimes I put one in my hand a squeeze REAL hard and ya know what? It HURTS, ALOT! Then after a few days pass, I forget how much it hurt so I try it again and guess what??? YEP It still hurts ALOT, well anyway I gotta carry those! Oh I almost forgot, my steel ball bearing collection, the sun doesn't rise if those aren't clickity-clacking when I walk down the stairs of my folks house.... /head-smack
 
Once again annoying problem after spending all that money on a phone and it discolors... I'll wait another year (maybe the next generation will be better). So now your stuck on a sh**ty phone contract with a terrible company and with a over rated phone that over heats and discolors, battery could be better, still no MMS or teathering! but at least your phone shows less finger prints!!!!!:eek:
 
How's about, staples & rivets... you didn't say anything about staples & rivets so they're okay right?... oh and what about my jacks (I lost the ball ages ago) but I can't go without those great little pointy jacks. Sometimes I put one in my hand a squeeze REAL hard and ya know what? It HURTS, ALOT! Then after a few days pass, I forget how much it hurt so I try it again and guess what??? YEP It still hurts ALOT, well anyway I gotta carry those! Oh I almost forgot, my steel ball bearing collection, the sun doesn't rise if those aren't clickity-clacking when I walk down the stairs of my folks house.... /head-smack

I always carry a chainsaw in my pocket along with my iPhone, because, well doesn't everyone? Anyway I get no scratches so you're ok there.
 
beautiful products dont deserve ugly cases thats the reason to go naked

Cases are not just to protect the phone. The iPhone is beautiful as everyone knows but it's like trying to handle a bar of wet soap.

I have a simple neoprene cover that allows me to pick the phone up much easier, I can rest it on things in the car while driving without worrying it's going to slip off onto the floor on every turn. I can prop it up against a vertical surface for watching video. Because the case is rubbery, if the phone is in my shirt pocket, it's not going to shoot out like a rocket every time I bend down to tie my laces.

There are many reasons why people have cases. It is a shame that it's loveliness is hidden, but I can take it out for a look when I want :)
 
Once again annoying problem after spending all that money on a phone and it discolors... I'll wait another year (maybe the next generation will be better). So now your stuck on a sh**ty phone contract with a terrible company and with a over rated phone that over heats and discolors, battery could be better, still no MMS or teathering! but at least your phone shows less finger prints!!!!!:eek:

Troll on the barby?
 
Air Jacket looks good.

Once again annoying problem after spending all that money on a phone and it discolors... I'll wait another year (maybe the next generation will be better). So now your stuck on a sh**ty phone contract with a terrible company and with a over rated phone that over heats and discolors, battery could be better, still no MMS or teathering! but at least your phone shows less finger prints!!!!!:eek:


Ladies and gentlemen . . . THIS is how FUD spreads. Future trolls, take notes!

There is no discolouring, except for a single alleged case and Lord knows how much user-induced imperfections.

There is no evidence of any kind of damaging overheating.

Has the best battery life of all devices in its class

I'm with Rogers and I've got MMS (works great) and tethering (already included in my data plan.) The manufacturer of the device and the carrier with which it is used are two different things.

And for all you Nokia fans that for some reason have invaded MR over the last few days:

http://gizmodo.com/5308440/nokia-n97-review-nokia-is-doomed

So true.

It's a completely different playing field and Nokia is still hanging on to that Symbian garbage. They seem to be a lot like Microsoft: coasting on their market share and relying on wide licensing to move product, instead of actually coming up with something truly compelling.

Nokia, as with Microsoft, is stuck in the world of producing phones to the bottom feeders ... price hunters. They sell phones, and fail at selling mobile computers. They are saddled with Symbian OS like a ball and chain. They are living in the '90s, with '90s marketing, a '90s OS, and a '90s approach to doing business.
 
OMG... Why are you even trying to explain these things to people?

EVERYTHING can and will scratch!

Paint, plastic, metal, wood, vinyl, leather, glass, sandpaper, diamonds, the surface of the moon....

Everything else.. Will scratch!

Why is this such a surprise to people? Have they never owned a new car and within hours, days or weeks (if your lucky) you start noticing little micro scratches here and there... well big news flash they multiply with time and use.... Okay... I've actually got three things that won't scratch or if they do it will not be detectable.

- Liquid
- Gas
- Plasma
- Carbon Nanotubes, Nano-particles and/or Buckyballs.

:p

Dave

Ummm...ok, I realize that and I wasn't asking for an explanation. I just happen to think the chrome is the only stupid, tacky looking feature on the Iphone, which looks even tackier once its already hacked up after 2 days. I'd rather see the white or black casing go all the way to the glass or just have it be a black piece. It's just surprising to me that they stuck with that design. In fact, between the chrome (again) and the new larger space between the glass and the edge, I think it's pretty ghastly and feels weird to the touch. I just put mine in a blue Griffin Wave case today, not because I'm afraid the phone will scratch, but because the blue edges cover the chrome and I'm no longer blinding myself when I pull it out of my pocket.
 
Don't kill the messenger. I'm only providing an answer to someone who is apparently so ignorant of simple, common-sense things that they bitch and complain.

Yet you're the one who's been bitching and complaining over a simple observation I made....:rolleyes:

Obviously just one of those "Apple can do no wrong people." Moving on.....
 
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Jamie 360 said:
OMG... Why are you even trying to explain these things to people?

EVERYTHING can and will scratch!

Paint, plastic, metal, wood, vinyl, leather, glass, sandpaper, diamonds, the surface of the moon....

Everything else.. Will scratch!

Why is this such a surprise to people? Have they never owned a new car and within hours, days or weeks (if your lucky) you start noticing little micro scratches here and there... well big news flash they multiply with time and use.... Okay... I've actually got three things that won't scratch or if they do it will not be detectable.

- Liquid
- Gas
- Plasma
- Carbon Nanotubes, Nano-particles and/or Buckyballs.

:p

Dave

Ummm...ok, I realize that and I wasn't asking for an explanation. I just happen to think the chrome is the only stupid, tacky looking feature on the Iphone, which looks even tackier once its already hacked up after 2 days. I'd rather see the white or black casing go all the way to the glass or just have it be a black piece. It's just surprising to me that they stuck with that design. In fact, between the chrome (again) and the new larger space between the glass and the edge, I think it's pretty ghastly and feels weird to the touch. I just put mine in a blue Griffin Wave case today, not because I'm afraid the phone will scratch, but because the blue edges cover the chrome and I'm no longer blinding myself when I pull it out of my pocket.

U my friend are suffering from some serious OCD because no one can see the little bitty scratches on the chrome except you. Seriously get over it already. Its just a phone and so what if it gets scratched. People around u don't care or even notice it.
 
People will never understand that cases makes the iPhone a more resistant (solid) and high-quality phone.

ahh hahahahahaha

You will be sorry the day you drop the phone. :mad:

At least my case is waterproof, dustproof, dirtproof, sandproof, crushproof, drop-proof.
 
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