There is no way Apple would go ahead with a redesign. That would admit fault and open them up for law suits, backlash, and more hate. They can't quietly do a redesign because it's out in the media that's why the case is being given out. It's the paint job and that's what I always thought. Do you really think that Apple would redesign the white iPhone 4 and keep shipping the black one? Stopping production would be very costly and Apple would take a huge hit financially and reputation wise.
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White iPhone will have a hardware fix for the antenna issue
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There is a fix:
1. Remove thy pinky from the seam.
2. Get a free case from Apple.
3. Return the blasted thing.
4. Get a Samsung Galaxy S and secretly wish you never returned your iP4.
1. Remove thy pinky from the seam.
2. Get a free case from Apple.
3. Return the blasted thing.
4. Get a Samsung Galaxy S and secretly wish you never returned your iP4.
You think a silent hardware fix that would require additional R&D, testing, retooling of factories, etc is
Can I have what your smoking now?
OF COURSE THEY WILL NOT CHANGE THE DESIGN! *facepalm*
A silent small hardware fix isn´t going to change the design. People who bought the first batch don´t have the right to complain, they got free bumpers!
But they are still probably going to be quite pissed!
oh jeeze, someone who thinks a hardware fix is not a design change clearly has no experience in the engineering/manufacturing world
If the fix is hardware related, it IS A DESIGN CHANGE
If there is a fix (change) to the DESIGN it is a DESIGN CHANGE! AHHHHHHHHHHHHH YOU STUPID F%&^ING PEOPLE!!!!!
Thanks god there is someone on MR with a brain today. Looks like it's me and you bud
THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN!!! DID YOUR MOM DROP YOU AS A BABY?!?!
What part of LITIGATION and IRATE BLACK IP4 CUSTOMERS do you people not understand?!?!
I am ready to blow a gasket over here!!
I honestly don't know why people are so against the possibility that Apple will be implementing a silent fix to the antenna issue.
Even Steve Jobs said they would be re-evaluating the problem come September 30. He has left the door open for something to happen.
And who is to say that the new iPhone4S or iPhone 5 will have the exact same design as the current iPhone4? Just like from the iPhone 3G->3GS? So fixing this issue now will be more cost effective in the long term.
Once the phone goes international, the antenna problem will be exponentially re-visited. They will be shipping the phone to 17 countries. Keep that in mind.
Remember, Steve Jobs is a perfectionist so you bet he is working with his engineers to examine the problem and has offered free cases in the interim. They already have the black iphones mass produced for international launch so they can't just destroy that batch.
And who is to say later Apple implements a warranty program where initial adopters of the iphone 4 can have their phone replaced with a new iphone4 that has the hardware fix?
If the issue was so cut and dry, Steve Jobs would not say they are going to re-evaluate the situation. He would have said to everyone, there will be no future changes to the iphone4.
But he left the door open.
Even Steve Jobs said they would be re-evaluating the problem come September 30. He has left the door open for something to happen.
And who is to say that the new iPhone4S or iPhone 5 will have the exact same design as the current iPhone4? Just like from the iPhone 3G->3GS? So fixing this issue now will be more cost effective in the long term.
Once the phone goes international, the antenna problem will be exponentially re-visited. They will be shipping the phone to 17 countries. Keep that in mind.
Remember, Steve Jobs is a perfectionist so you bet he is working with his engineers to examine the problem and has offered free cases in the interim. They already have the black iphones mass produced for international launch so they can't just destroy that batch.
And who is to say later Apple implements a warranty program where initial adopters of the iphone 4 can have their phone replaced with a new iphone4 that has the hardware fix?
If the issue was so cut and dry, Steve Jobs would not say they are going to re-evaluate the situation. He would have said to everyone, there will be no future changes to the iphone4.
But he left the door open.
If there is a fix (change) to the DESIGN it is a DESIGN CHANGE! AHHHHHHHHHHHHH YOU STUPID F%&^ING PEOPLE!!!!!
Thanks god there is someone on MR with a brain today. Looks like it's me and you bud
You´re just a nitpicker and I still don´t agree with you, but ok let´s go by your "rules":
There will be a DESIGN CHANGE!
It´s so obvious, anyone with common sense can see this.
Litigation over what? Please elaborate. Have you even studied law before? All Apple has to do is offer a warranty exchange program for those early iPhone 4 adopters to exchange their phone for a new "fixed" phone.
Good luck trying to win in court. Any class action lawsuits launched won't stand a chance in court.
Hahaha! Very intelligent reply.
Did you know that Apple has done this with many of their products and many other companies do this all the time as well. They do little silent fixes here and there. It´s very common and you are not very intelligent if you do not know this.
Just trust me, there will be a silent hardware fix after September.
I am sooooo over talking about this to you knuckle draggers
You don't think that I know that companies make changes to current products? The difference between them and Apple is that this is plastered ALL OVER EVERYWHERE. The minute iFixit or Gizmodo realizes a "fix" has been made the **** would hit the fan.
If they were to make some sort of a change to "fix" the antenna issue they would have to offer EVERY SINGLE "old" ip4 owner a replacement or fix. You really think that they'd do that? They have already sold well over 3 million units and by the time your proposed "fix" is in place it would likely be 5-6 times more (underestimate).
So Apple is going to replace/fix around 15-20 million phones huh? Please tell me how they'd pull that off Mr "Common Sense"
You don't think that I know that companies make changes to current products? The difference between them and Apple is that this is plastered ALL OVER EVERYWHERE. The minute iFixit or Gizmodo realizes a "fix" has been made the **** would hit the fan.
If they were to make some sort of a change to "fix" the antenna issue they would have to offer EVERY SINGLE "old" ip4 owner a replacement or fix. You really think that they'd do that? They have already sold well over 3 million units and by the time your proposed "fix" is in place it would likely be 5-6 times more (underestimate).
So Apple is going to replace/fix around 15-20 million phones huh? Please tell me how they'd pull that off Mr "Common Sense"
Maybe, so?
Of course they don´t have to.
No I don´t think that, ´cause they won´t.
They got free bumpers and they had 30-day full money return choise. Deal is a deal.
So Apple is going to replace/fix around 15-20 million phones huh? Please tell me how they'd pull that off Mr "Common Sense"
They aren´t going to replace anything, ´cause they don´t have to. If people accepted the bumper deal, that´s it. Deal is a deal. You can whine about it after September of course, but that´s not going to help anything.
p.s. I suggest using a littlebit common sense yourself.
You don't think that I know that companies make changes to current products? The difference between them and Apple is that this is plastered ALL OVER EVERYWHERE. The minute iFixit or Gizmodo realizes a "fix" has been made the **** would hit the fan.
If they were to make some sort of a change to "fix" the antenna issue they would have to offer EVERY SINGLE "old" ip4 owner a replacement or fix. You really think that they'd do that? They have already sold well over 3 million units and by the time your proposed "fix" is in place it would likely be 5-6 times more (underestimate).
So Apple is going to replace/fix around 15-20 million phones huh? Please tell me how they'd pull that off Mr "Common Sense"
Is common sense not so common anymore?
Go back to the iPhone 4 press conference. Steve broke down the statistics of current iPhone 4 users who have called into Apple Care about the antenna issue. And the numbers were super small. Now I realize with statistics, you can spin statistics either way and make them support your argument. So even if they have shipped over 3 million phones, a small percentage of those people actually experience antenna issues.
Apple has done alot of things to appease the early adopters of the iP4. They have allowed FULL refunds within 30 days of purchase and are now offering free cases till September 30th. If you're one of the early adopters, and having antenna issues, Apple has given you ample opportunity to return the phone. Period.
Why would **** hit the fan?
Apple has acknowledged the problem exists and have given customers options. Return the phone if you're not pleased or use the free bumper we're giving you.
How do you propose litigation?
I think if Apple fixes the problem, it would generate positive PR which would circumvent the current negative PR the company is receiving over this "Antennagate." This would demonstrate that Apple listens to their customers and works hard and quickly to address concerns.
And for those who believe there will be no fix, no one has answered why the free case program runs till September 30th? Yes, it's the end of the fiscal quarter for Apple. But that's all the more reason to believe there will be a fix.
Common sense would dictate that, Steve Jobs will not formally acknowledge a fix is on its way because NO ONE would buy iphones until after September which would make for an interesting financial quarter for Apple because the iphone is one of the biggest revenue streams. By providing free cases and a 30 day refund policy till Spetember 30, it's a temporary stop-gap measure until they release a hardware fix. This is to ensure that iphones continue to sell, especially internationally.
PS. Read my signature.
Yes, the "better idea" will be the silent hardware fix thus Apple doesn´t have to give free cases to everyone anymore.
I disagree. A "silent recall" will spell the death of Apple.
It's one thing to come out and do a redesign but to do it and not inform current owners, never.