Who else is waiting for iOS 13 before purchasing iPad?

DjStiky

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I really wanted to buy an iPad Pro but with the shortcomings of iOS, I held back.
iOS 13 be will be the deciding factor to purchase one or not, that's if we can finally have things like a real file system, external storage, multiple windows for the same app (like MS Word), adding personal music files to iTunes without a computer, etc...
Anyone else feel the same way?
 
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sracer

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I really wanted to buy an iPad Pro but with the shortcomings of iOS, I held back.
iOS 13 be will be the deciding factor to purchase one or not, that's if we can finally have things like a real file system, external storage, multiple windows for the same app (like MS Word), adding personal music files to iTunes without a computer, etc...
Anyone else feel the same way?
This is a wise decision and one that I've made for myself. I'm sticking with the base iPad models (with pencil support) until Apple produces an iPad with those features.
 
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I totally understand why you're waiting but you really are missing out. I cannot begin to describe how beautiful this device is to use.

If you currently own a Mac and won't use the iPad exclusively then you can get by most of the time but it really frustrates me that if I drop one of my demo tracks from logic or garageband on to my desktop and try to access it on my iPad, I can't. The file manager issue really needs to be resolved asap. I don't know what they think people are going to do with the 1TB without this.
 
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sparksd

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This is a wise decision and one that I've made for myself. I'm sticking with the base iPad models (with pencil support) until Apple produces an iPad with those features.
Hope you're not holding your breath ...

I know you're using a Chrome-based unit (which one?) these days - in the absence of Internet access, is it still quite usable? e.g., usability as compared to an Android tablet in the same environment.
 

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Hope you're not holding your breath ...

I know you're using a Chrome-based unit (which one?) these days - in the absence of Internet access, is it still quite usable? e.g., usability as compared to an Android tablet in the same environment.
LOL I'm not holding my breath. That's why I have other devices that meet my needs in the meantime. I have a PixelBook and an Acer Chromebook 14 (it's my 14" " Macbook Air"). I have offline Chrome OS apps, Android apps, and Windows apps installed so I can work offline or on and not skip a beat.
 

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I really wanted to buy an iPad Pro but with the shortcomings of iOS, I held back.
iOS 13 be will be the deciding factor to purchase one or not, that's if we can finally have things like a real file system, external storage, multiple windows for the same app (like MS Word), adding personal music files to iTunes without a computer, etc...
Anyone else feel the same way?
Not really. I haen't seen any ground breaking ios releases to date. What are you
hoping for?
 

LovingTeddy

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Not really. I haen't seen any ground breaking ios releases to date. What are you
hoping for?
I am more hoping for some kind of file system that iPad Pro can read external USB devices and ability to managing files on the fly. I do not want upload everything on the cloud than download to the iPad... This is absolutely insane to me.


Hope you're not holding your breath ...

I know you're using a Chrome-based unit (which one?) these days - in the absence of Internet access, is it still quite usable? e.g., usability as compared to an Android tablet in the same environment.

Well. I haven’t used Chromebook, but I have seen my cowoker was using a Chromebook for a presentation. Chromebook will work offline and it will do things when offline. For example, you can open Google Doc without internet access. You can start editing documents either saved locally or from USB drive. Once you connected to internet, everything will be synced to Google Drive.

Some newer Chromebook have ability to run Android apps as well. So you can run Android app offline as well.
 

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I am more hoping for some kind of file system that iPad Pro can read external USB devices and ability to managing files on the fly. I do not want upload everything on the cloud than download to the iPad... This is absolutely insane to me.
Have you tried Air Drop for your file transfers despite its limitations (e.g., devices close to one another, etc)? Setting it to accept from 'everyone' doesn't require the cloud, and it is fast. (I'm averse to the cloud altogether and like you, would love real usb functionality + a file system as well)
 

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Have you tried Air Drop for your file transfers despite its limitations (e.g., devices close to one another, etc)? Setting it to accept from 'everyone' doesn't require the cloud, and it is fast. (I'm averse to the cloud altogether and like you, would love real usb functionality + a file system as well)
I'd like to be able to attach a USB HDD to the iPad for file access while traveling where I often find Internet access to be either slow or totally non-existent - why I don't depend on the cloud. As a workaround, I use a wireless FileHub with a 4TB HDD attached. Except for slow transfer speeds, it works great. But that's a big "except".
 
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DjStiky

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Ok here's a personal scenario I went through and thought: wow... I can't believe I'm this crippled with an iPad.
DJing a wedding using the Djay app.
Dancers show up with their music on a USB stick.
1) First of all I can't do anything with the USB stick.
2) Even if I could somehow access the files, I can't import the MP3 into an iTunes/Music playlist.

Bought one of these but it's like jumping through so many hoops just to open an MP3 (connect to device's wifi, use it's 3rd party app to access the files, use "Open With", and you're not sure which of the 2 decks in Djay the song loads into, still can't add the song to iTunes/Music, slow...)

So when the time came to spend all that money on an iPad Pro, I thought... why?
Can't even do something as simple as open a word document as reference and work on another document at the same time.

So I will be holding off until these basic use scenarios get first party solutions.
 
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secretk

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To be honest I still have not been convinced of the ratio between added benefits and price. And iOS is one big factor for me. In my country the new iPad Pros prices are comparable to the laptop I bought. The moment Apple puts the iPad Pro in this category then I need to be really convinced of said benefits and features. Like I would not want to pay such price for laptop and then on top of it to pay for an iPad Pro. Now if the iPad Pro was able to do everything my laptop does then I would buy just the iPad Pro. And here it comes iOS as a whole. iOS does not offer me what my laptop can do. Problem is I don't think that iOS 13 will improve things that much. I actually expect Apple to take years (and by years I mean more like 5/6) to make iOS comparable to laptop OS (if ever does it).

So I guess I am not even waiting for iOS 13. I am waiting for either of those two things:

1. Windows 2 in 1 laptops get a bit better in tablet mode and have good stylus/pencils so that I can have laptop that I can use as a digital notebook (this is what I use my iPad for anyway).
2. Apple accepts that iPads have different usage than iPhones and either works on iOS exclusive features for iPad or introduces new PadOs sort of that caters to the needs of the iPad Pros users.

My laptop is just 1 and half years old so I have like 2/3 years before changing my laptop. Ideally I would like to buy a device next time that can be both laptop (with docking station that I can use to hook up external monitors) and can be used with stylus to write down, doodle and highlight and annotate pdf documents. So it would be either iPad Pro that can work with USB-C docking systems (for external monitors, mouse and USB drives) or 2 in 1 laptop that can work with USB C docking station and stylus and can turn into tablet (think Microsoft Surface Book 13 inch design).
 
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ericwn

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I would imagine those who are waiting for an iPad to be able to replicate their laptop use precisely to not sit in the iPad forums that much, especially if they currently don’t own or use an iPad.
 

DjStiky

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I would imagine those who are waiting for an iPad to be able to replicate their laptop use precisely to not sit in the iPad forums that much, especially if they currently don’t own or use an iPad.
I agree with you. And I'm not waiting for it to "replace" my laptop. I just want to be able to go through a basic use scenario without feeling crippled. I think proper file system/external storage and multiple windows or sessions of same app would be the big step forward.
 
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ericwn

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I agree, there’s stuff missing especially when compared to other computer platforms but at the same time have to wonder if certain elements will ever get fixed, for example the ability to import music files into the default music app. Or are they just waiting for that scenario to die out and just roll with people who stream everything.
 

Porkchop Sandwich

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I would imagine those who are waiting for an iPad to be able to replicate their laptop use precisely to not sit in the iPad forums that much, especially if they currently don’t own or use an iPad.
I will never step away from a laptop but it sure would be nice to have a companion device that could fully integrate itself into the os while bringing its own virtues to the table. iPad needs a true file system to make that happen. That said, I do not want the mbp dumbed down in any way shape or form to adapt itself to an ios devise..rather, bring the ios device (ie: iPadPro) to it.
 

secretk

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I would imagine those who are waiting for an iPad to be able to replicate their laptop use precisely to not sit in the iPad forums that much, especially if they currently don’t own or use an iPad.
Could be :). I am in this case where I have regular iPad and IMO for its price iOS is enough. However for the price Apple expects me to pay for iPad Pro is not. That's how I feel :). I am not sure how many are there like me who draw the line with the regular iPad and do not want to invest in iPad Pro until they see vast improvement in iOS itself to warrant the spending.
 
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DNichter

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I wouldn't bet on iOS 13 making an iPad more like a Mac. There will be improvement, but I don't expect iOS 13 to cause a lot of people to all of a sudden start using an iPad as their main computer. Personally, I am content with iPad as my primary computer though and I look forward to any improvements. I see a bigger future for iPad than I do the Mac at this point.
 
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I really wanted to buy an iPad Pro but with the shortcomings of iOS, I held back.
iOS 13 be will be the deciding factor to purchase one or not, that's if we can finally have things like a real file system, external storage, multiple windows for the same app (like MS Word), adding personal music files to iTunes without a computer, etc...
Anyone else feel the same way?
With the exception of multiple versions of the same app, I don't see the rest happening.

Either you embrace the iPad for what it can do today, or get a PC.
 

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Sure, you owned three of the iPads that came out last year... :rolleyes:
? ? ?

Yes, I’ve owned (3) 3rd gen iPad pros since February of this year.

My first 11” was a 64GB unlocked touch issue, not bent.

My 2nd 11” was a 64gb unlocked not bent minor touch issue.

My 3rd 11” is a 1TB unlocked not bent, no touch issues.

Some people have owned 4 or 5. What’s the big deal here?

These iPads have a problem, and it has nothing to do with being bent!
That is the least of your worries.
 
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I've never missed a proper file system but can appreciate those who want one. I'm a pretty light user.
 

sracer

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And yet you keep buying them? For a cool thousand bucks?
I read it as he bought and returned twice (because of problems) but kept the 3rd, not that he owns all three. I initially thought he was taking the position that bowed iPad Pros weren't actually a "thing", but the more I thought about it, it seemed like he was saying that there are more serious and prevalent issues than being bowed. That's my interpretation, I could be mistaken.