It feels like everyone on MR is a mini owner or a pro/max owner. Anyone else here with the standard 12? 128gb black here. My first black iPhone and I really love the colour.
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iPhone 12 Who else owns the 12?
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I have a blue iPhone 12 128GB. I know what you mean about it being less popular on here. A lot of people here have the Pro’s and can’t understand why others have the standard 12.
I think what happened is that Apple raised the price of the 12 and cut the price of the pro models, so the 12 became less appealing as a result
The 12 is the best selling model IRL afaik; it just seems underrepresented on macrumours. I think most people here lean towards the pro models since its an enthusiast forum. Then there's the mini crowd also who are quite outspoken. Us 12 bros are the silent majority.
I don't know. Sales data is very limited. A few major ISP releases a monthly ranking in my country without numbers. According to those rankings 12 pro is best selling.
That's always the case for the first few months. The XS initially outsold the XR, same with the 11 pro. It's a waiting game but I'd be surprised if the 12 didn't take over even if it is behind. As of Jan it seems the 12 has overtaken the pro, and matches the pro max in the US. The pro models certainly did better than normal this year however.
"CIRP finds that the new iPhone 12 models (12, 12 Pro, 12 Pro Max, and 12 mini) accounted for 56% of US iPhone sales in the quarter. iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro Max had the largest share for a single model, at 17% each (Chart 1). The model mix resulted in a US Weighted Average Retail Price (US-WARP) of $873 for the quarter, compared to $809 for the December 2019 quarter."
An aluminum max model would be perfect IMO. I tried out the pro max and did love the display size, but the weight was draining.
The 12 is the most popular of the four apparently. The price is still low enough to appeal to the mainstream and the Pro didn’t come down in price from what I’ve seen, it’s still starting at a grand. The 12 started at £799. When you consider the difference is £200ish, the Pro is less attractive for many.
The Pro’s will be more popular on MR, but this is but a minute segment of society.
The iPhone 12 mini reminds me of the iPad 3. The tablet launched and was quickly replaced 6 months later. There is still a market for small phones. The iPhone SE is a good example. The challenge was trying to get customers who were interested in the iPhone 12 vs iPhone 12 pro max. The iPhone 12 width does feel narrow in your hand vs iPhone 12, But the mini has a large display. The iPhone 12 mini was the device many who loved compact smartphones always wanted. And that took courage.
This thread is about the standard 6.1 inch 12 not the mini. Dexbell has a mini owner thread.
When the 12 series was first announced, I initially held the opinion that the pro was better value. Especially since I always go for the 128gb, meaning it was "only" a £150 difference to upgrade. But after mulling over the key differences, I realized I wouldn't really have much use for the extra camera features (other than the occasional landscape shot or selfie, I'm not a big photo guy). So essentially the "gains" for me would have been £150 for stainless steel, 800 nits brightness, and 6gb ram. The ram is likely optimized for the pro camera features, I'm always leaving my brightness very low and rarely if ever come close to utilizing the full 625 nits, and the stainless steel is a downside for me due to the unnecessary extra weight. So overall for me, the 12 was the right choice considering the day to day operation of it is identical to the pro. Plus how light it is which is a big benefit over the pro.
I feel as if the 12S/13 pro next year will be more appealing if it comes with promotion/120 hz, that's a feature I am certainly interested in on the iPhone.
If you're referring to the brightness then I can see that. I work indoors, and its rarely that sunny here (UK) but if you work outdoors or live somewhere extremely sunny, I can see the benefits of 800 nits. For my usage its incredibly rare I come close to maxing out the brightness. Usually I'll have my brightness set to below 50%.
Yeah the 12 is plenty good enough for me too with what it offers. I won’t pay a grand for a phone on principle and especially when the 12 is as good as it is. If prices go up any further then i’ll revert back to buying the previous years model like I did with the last two upgrades before this one. iPhones perform well for years anyway in my experience. The brightness thing is the same for me too as mine is set constantly on about 40% with no issues seeing the screen. You’re right about it not being that bright here in the UK most of the time lol. The lighter weight aspect is also a plus I think and I prefer aluminium on the watch too for that reason. I hope Apple continues with this strategy and doesn’t get too greedy as i’ll happily adapt to suit myself.
No, it’s not. The Pro Max is with the Pro right behind it. In fact, the iPhone 12 is in the same boat with the Mini. Yang forecasts 11 million less Mini sales than originally expected and 9 million less iPhone 12 sales.
”The analyst reportedly cut the production expectations of the iPhone 12 mini by as much as 11 million units. The iPhone 12 production expectations have also been reduced by nine million, while the iPhone 12 Pro and the iPhone 11 production is speculated to grow by two million and eight million units, respectively.”
The standard 12 is joint top with the pro max at 17%, it has overtaken the pro in the US. It's not quite in the same level as the mini; bearing in mind that it'll probably gain marketshare throughout the spring and summer, just like the XR and 11 did. There is a big difference between cutting a phone holding a 5% share by 11 million, and a phone holding a 17% share by 9 million. You'd be looking at a cut of over 33 million for their to be full equivalence. There is however no doubt that the pro models did better this time around, and that's obvious when comparing the market share of the 11 vs 12 during the month of Dec.
"CIRP finds that the new iPhone 12 models (12, 12 Pro, 12 Pro Max, and 12 mini) accounted for 56% of US iPhone sales in the quarter. iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro Max had the largest share for a single model, at 17% each (Chart 1). The model mix resulted in a US Weighted Average Retail Price (US-WARP) of $873 for the quarter, compared to $809 for the December 2019 quarter."
Ah ok. Well either way, cutting the production of the 12 and 12 Mini isnt necessarily a bad thing. It just means the Pro models are doing better than expected and they need to focus on ramping up there production to meet demands.The standard 12 is joint top with the pro max at 17%, it has overtaken the pro in the US. It's not quite in the same level as the mini; bearing in mind that it'll probably gain marketshare throughout the spring and summer, just like the XR and 11 did. There is a big difference between cutting a phone holding a 5% share by 11 million, and a phone holding a 17% share by 9 million. You'd be looking at a cut of over 33 million for their to be full equivalence. There is however no doubt that the pro models did better this time around, and that's obvious when comparing the market share of the 11 vs 12 during the month of Dec.
"CIRP finds that the new iPhone 12 models (12, 12 Pro, 12 Pro Max, and 12 mini) accounted for 56% of US iPhone sales in the quarter. iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro Max had the largest share for a single model, at 17% each (Chart 1). The model mix resulted in a US Weighted Average Retail Price (US-WARP) of $873 for the quarter, compared to $809 for the December 2019 quarter."
The iPhone 12 Pro series isn’t outselling the standard 12 in Europe which is twice the population of the US. I find it hard to believe that to be honest seeing as prices start at a grand which is less attractive to the mainstream consumer.
It’s also worth mentioning that US sales aren’t representative of overall global sales either despite many threads on this site portraying it as such.
I bought a 12 black 128.
Coming for the reasonable price and the straight edges from a 7 and 8
I really felt the difference between 7 and 8 in image quality.
I am not happy with the overprocessed images on the 12...
one thing I love about the 12: the weight
one thing that I really miss: the 50mm/65mm lens
Coming for the reasonable price and the straight edges from a 7 and 8
I really felt the difference between 7 and 8 in image quality.
I am not happy with the overprocessed images on the 12...
one thing I love about the 12: the weight
one thing that I really miss: the 50mm/65mm lens
Black 64GB iPhone 12 for me since yesterday, coming from a 64GB XS.
I held off for a while since I loved the Apple leather wallet case for the XS,
while a similar case is not available from Apple for the 12 (Pro). Finally
found a nice leather wallet case for the 12 (Pro), so there...
I held off for a while since I loved the Apple leather wallet case for the XS,
while a similar case is not available from Apple for the 12 (Pro). Finally
found a nice leather wallet case for the 12 (Pro), so there...