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Spec wise the 4 is better than the 3, no denying that. Is is way better, probably not but if I didn't already have a 3 and was in the market for a full size iPad I would buy the iPad 4.

A friend of mine some years ago purchased a new computer. She had me set it up exactly like her very old slow, and I do mean slow computer. Mail was brought over, every icon in the exact same locations etc...After a month or so had passed, I asked her how she was enjoying the new computer. Her reply was she was back to using the old one. Not that anything was wrong with the new one, but that she was attached to her old one and couldn't bring herself to use the new faster model. Go figure! :D
 
I bought the 3 a few weeks ago and I don't regret it. It works perfectly fine for me. My wife has the 4 since day one, I've used it a handful of times and it doesn't seem any faster to me. I got mine cause it has the 30 pin, It can use the same cases as the 4 so there are plenty to get, and I got it for a decent price. I will see what the 5 offers and decide whether I need it, or I can wait for the 6.
 
The only thing an iPad 4 offers is an overrated "faster" processor and a new lightning dock connector that makes my current iPad dock obsolete.

People that you should upgrade every other release... there's a reason for that.

Hahaha. An overrated processor? Wow. Really, you should have some facts to back up your false claims. Its hardly overrated. Games run amazing and basic things like editing and saving photos are very much faster.

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I have had all 4 versions of the iPad.

1. Anyone who claims iPad 3 A5X vs. iPad 4 A6x speed difference is "over-rated" is simply not telling the truth.

The A6X chip is the fastest chip Apple makes. The iPad 4 is faster than my iPhone 5. The iPhone 5 is faster than my iPad 3. All tests confirm people have run report that.

The iPad 3 is barely faster than the iPad 2.

For gaming, like Real Racing 3, it will make a huge difference. For web browsing, email, simple apps. It probably doesn't make a difference to 95% of people out there. There's a reason the ipad 2 is still selling well. Performance is still good with duo core.

Like I said, depends on what you use the iPad 3/4 for. I actually use my Verizon LTE iPad 3 64GB all the time since I take it to work and travel a lot. I leave my iPad 4 64GB wifi at home for my almost 3 year old to play with.

I am not a heavy gamer. It doesn't make a real world difference to me. But for anyone who says the ipad 4 processor is over rated, they need to use it side by side the iPad 3. There is a difference especially on certain intensive apps.

Even NOT using it side-by-side I noticed a difference right away. I edited a photo and saved it to the camera roll. The save literally took a little over a second whereas on previous models it would take 3 or 4+ seconds. Any skeptics can watch on youtube.
 
The only thing an iPad 4 offers is an overrated "faster" processor and a new lightning dock connector that makes my current iPad dock obsolete.

People that you should upgrade every other release... there's a reason for that.

It is twice as fast as the previous chip and that's a fact. Your putting faster in scare quotes won't change that. I have a 30 pin dock, and a $3 adapter from amazon means it isn't obsolete.
 
I have the 3. Its not better than the 4 by any metric. But its not worth upgrading.

Running an obsolete iOS5 is not a plus.

The 4 is better.

2 things. How is is 5 obsolete? And how is it not a plus? IOS 5.1.1 is by far my favorite iOS version ever, followed closely by 4.3.5.
 
Ipad 3 owners are missing the point.The reason that most current apps work smoothly on both the 3 and 4 is because current apps don't take full advantage of the 4's processing power.

In a year or two when IOS and apps become more demanding,then you will notice a big difference.

The only difference right now is that the 4 is more future proof.
 
Where to buy best keyboard cases for IPad?

I have IPad 3 and i need the keyboard case for my IPad. I don't know where to go. I have no idea. I am in search for the best keyboard case for my IPad with a reasonable price.:confused:
 
I have a 2 and i dont even see the importance of an upgrade to a 4.

From 1 to 2, there was a great differences in term of battery, speed, weight and ram with the addition of camera (useless to me). From 2 to 3, there is no big jump there, just retina and worser battery. 3 to 4 is even worst, just new connector, better adaptor, and slighter diff in spec.

If Ipad 5 still the same shape with just a bump in spec. I will just keep my 2. Ipad is getting boring these days. For christ sake, even Samsung has more innovation in their Notes series. Ipad mini is just a smaller, lighter Ipad 2.
 
I have a 2 and i dont even see the importance of an upgrade to a 4.

From 1 to 2, there was a great differences in term of battery, speed, weight and ram with the addition of camera (useless to me). From 2 to 3, there is no big jump there, just retina and worser battery. 3 to 4 is even worst, just new connector, better adaptor, and slighter diff in spec.

You're calling a tiny increase in Geekbench scores from 450 to 720 a great difference in speed.

But, not 720 to 1800?

LOL
 
2 things. How is is 5 obsolete? And how is it not a plus? IOS 5.1.1 is by far my favorite iOS version ever, followed closely by 4.3.5.
The number of bugs and security issues not patched.
Features added or improved in later versions.

There are many many ways.

5.1.1 is nearly 12 months old.

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Ipad 3 owners are missing the point.The reason that most current apps work smoothly on both the 3 and 4 is because current apps don't take full advantage of the 4's processing power.

In a year or two when IOS and apps become more demanding,then you will notice a big difference.

The only difference right now is that the 4 is more future proof.
3 owners can update then. Price of 4 will be lower... and/or newer iPad will be out with new features/speed.

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I have a 2 and i dont even see the importance of an upgrade to a 4.

From 1 to 2, there was a great differences in term of battery, speed, weight and ram with the addition of camera (useless to me). From 2 to 3, there is no big jump there, just retina and worser battery. 3 to 4 is even worst, just new connector, better adaptor, and slighter diff in spec.

If Ipad 5 still the same shape with just a bump in spec. I will just keep my 2. Ipad is getting boring these days. For christ sake, even Samsung has more innovation in their Notes series. Ipad mini is just a smaller, lighter Ipad 2.
Same reason just mentioned. iPad 3, and iPad Mini have the same A5 CPU as the 2. Apps are all still targeted for this least common denominator. You're not going to see a need to upgrade until the A6 CPU becomes the least common denominator apps are coded and targeted for.
 
I think it depends what you are using an iPad for. If reading books and browsing the web is your limit the difference between the 3 and 4 is not noticeable. I've owned both and play a lot of games, that's were you notice the difference.

When I swapped my iPad 2 for the 3 I has disappointed, while the screen looked amazing, it couldn't keep up with demanding games such as Nova 3 and Galaxy on Fire 2. The visuals on the iPad 2 weren't as sharp but at least there was no slow down and I could enable all the special effects.

The iPad 4 on the other hand copes with everything you throw at it with no sign of slowing down.
 
I have no idea why anyone would think the iPad 5 is going to be substantially faster than the 4.

Like the iPad 4, the iPad 5's CPU will undoubtedly be based on Apple's Swift architecture. A performance increase of 30% would be about right.

Certainly nothing like the >200% increase in going from Cortex A9 to Swift (iPad 2 & 3 to iPad 4).
 
The 3 is by no means better than the 4. The only way I could see that being true is if you have a bunch of 30 pin accessories. I would like an iPad 4 or 5 (when it comes out) but wont be getting either. The only way I would replace mine is if I broke it (knock on wood) or it just lasts so long it becomes painfully slow to operate because of how out of date it is. I only use my iPad for document viewing, web browsing, ForeFlight and the occasional movie. I can foresee the iPad 3 being able to handle these tasks for many years to come.

The 5 will be a worthy upgrade from a 3 considering it will be a redesign and it will be lighter and thinner.
 
I love my 3.

Had the 4, a couple of them, but returned for dynamic contrast issue and image retention. In dark scenes, details were not as drawn out either.

The screen on my 3 is the best !
 
I love my 3.

Had the 4, a couple of them, but returned for dynamic contrast issue and image retention. In dark scenes, details were not as drawn out either.

The screen on my 3 is the best !

I've watched a number of movies and TV shows off iTunes on my 4 and have never had those issues.
 
The 5 will be a worthy upgrade from a 3 considering it will be a redesign and it will be lighter and thinner.

Sure the 5 will be lighter and thinner but that's not gonna make me want to spend another $830 to replace my iPad 3 that still works perfectly. I'll need a good reason to ditch my iPad before I buy a new one.
 
I've had the 3 since launch. I upgraded my phone to the 5. now I have two different charge cables and I'm not really a fan (along with docks that fit the 30pin, and older ipods; 6th gen nano, classic).

I'll most likely upgrade to the 5th gen ipad just to get the lightning connector (and I want more space, currently I have the 16gb). However, I love the 6th gen nano, and the classic I still use, So I guess I'll have to keep having the 30pin connector for those. It'll take a few years to do the full switch
 
i find it hilarious how iPad 4 owners need to justify why their iPad is superior. they are the same ones who will be flipping their iPad 4 and then saying how their iPad 5 is better 6 months from now...completely failing to realize that they are doing what a lot of people do when it comes to cars. they have no intention of keeping their newly purchased car more than X years and they buy a new car at that extreme frequency. they get double screwed in depreciation AND the higher cost of buying new (or leasing - same thing...you are paying for the section of the depreciation curve with the steepest slope). the same applies to iPads. you bought the iPad 4 at full retail price brand new - you are already overpaying compared to someone buying a refurb whether it's a previous model or a refurb of the same model in a few months after release. yeah, you got that wicked fast A6 which means you can process a photo 3 seconds more quickly, or that app folder will load a fraction of a second better. heck, maybe if Comcast or FiOS ever got around to providing decent internet speeds then you could gloat how your iPad 4 loads web pages faster. then though... the iPad 5 comes out in October and you go to sell your iPad 4 and it has depreciated substantially compared to the full retail price. compare that to someone who bought an iPad 3 16GB refurb for $379 and is then able to sell it for more than cost which means they break even accounting for eBay fees. don't believe me? check out the "Completed Listings" on eBay. the ones who bought an iPad 4 16GB wifi for $499 though are getting in the very low $400's. if you account for sales tax of the initial purchase and then eBay fees you basically have taken a $100 hit or even more. even the people here who have professional careers and a $100 hit wouldn't matter (such as myself), i have made the decision instead to take that $100 and do something else with it that is arguably of more value. value is subjective though, so what i look at being a wise financial decision and a no-brainer, someone else might not care. that's not my problem, i'm not about to change anyone's habits in here i'm merely just pointing out some of the flawed logic when people grasp at any type of defense of their decision which they feel is the right one (which i disagree with if i were in those shoes)

no one honestly feels that the iPad 3 is better than your iPad 4's. we're not stupid - we know it has a faster processor by 1 generation, we know it has a better camera, we know it has the potential for faster wifi speeds (bottleneck is always your internet speed anyways). we know all of these things but we have chosen to either keep our iPad 3's, go out and buy a discounted iPad 3, or even buy an iPad 3 refurb from Apple.com.
 
You're calling a tiny increase in Geekbench scores from 450 to 720 a great difference in speed.

But, not 720 to 1800?

LOL


number and reality are totally different. Those tests never really matter in real uses. And most people dont even care to run those tests unless u are bloggers or hardcore users. Appearances is what drive sales, its called marketing.

And from ipad2 to 4, it practically look the same.
 
I'd read the mess a couple posts up if the poster knew how to use paragraphs, but he doesn,t so it's not worth the headache to sift through...

I don't understand why everyone on this forum feels this incessant need to **** all over the iPad 4...whether it's the mini owners, the iPad 3 owners, or the iPad 2 owners, it's like everyone feels the need to take a shot at the iPad 4 for some lame reason. I've never seen so much hate for a device in a forum.

Don't like it? Don't buy it. It's better than your 2, your 3, and your mini - plain and simple it's the most powerful and capable iPad ever made up to this point and there seems to be a lot of denial about that. Bt who cares, feel free to try and make 4 owners feel small when you upgrade your 3 for a 5 and come in and continue ******** all over the 4. We all know there will be plenty of those posts before the flood of scuffgate posts that will soon follow.

I love my 4 and never felt insecure enough to take a dump on iPad 3 owners. Will I upgrade to a 5? Maybe, maybe not, depends what Apple releases, but I sure won't be a dick about it.
 
I'd happily buy a 5 once it comes out. I've got an iPad 2 atm, and yes, I do love it, BUT - I watch a lot of videos (BBC iPlayer, anyone?) on my iPad, and having a RD would be so nice to watch it on!
 
I wanted an iPad for two years and waited for the 3rd gen before taking the leap.

It runs smooth and fast, runs all apps I need quickly, and at the end of the day I'm happy and grateful to have an iPad.

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The Lightning Port.

That alone sealed the deal for me to upgrade.
 
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