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yellow said:
I'm thinking there are portions of the business world out there that do use operating systems other than Windows.
Ok we'll exclude portions of the EU for the pourposes of this discussion



This makes no sense. What has that got to do with the business world, windows, or applications?
train of thought:

I use windows at work, either office jockey, engineer, small business owner, even graphics designeer and film student, etc...

I'd like to use a familia platform at home, whehter it be for compatability, lack of effort, price point, games, program avaliablilty, or simply abbility to download bootleg copies (we can't deny this happens, and we're all guilty.)

The mac hardware while in many cases superior to your average Intel/AMD box, (until now) has been held back by relitivly weak software support outside the visual media suites. You have to admit also that until the release of the G5 proc, the platform as a whole was substancially slower all around than compeating machines. Thus making the mac an unattractive move form both a price, performance and compatability point of view.

For a final year Mining Engineering student the draw towards the mac platform is very weak, looking at what is avaliable fomr AMD and other vendors.

Takumi

P.S: I'll respond in the moring, good night;)
 
I've used Macs since 1984, when my parents bought a Macintosh 128k model (and later upgraded it to 512k). However, I did buy a PC a few years ago to play games on.

The next time I upgrade, I'll be upgrading both the Mac and PC at the same time (since my new Mac will also run Windows ;) ).
 
Actually.. before I "trollout"..

There's larger portions of the business world that uses Macs/Linux/Solaris/etc than you think.

And while the Mac may not work for YOU or what YOU do or want to do.. that's completely unfair to call the rest of us idiots because we find that the Mac and Mac OS X DOES do what WE need it to do. It's unfair and arrogant.
 
Takumi said:
You have to admit also that until the release of the G5 proc, the platform as a whole was substancially slower all around than compeating machines.
Fortunately one doesn't have to admit that at all.

The 68000, 68020/68030, 68040, PowerPC 601, PowerPC 604, PowerPC 604e, G3 and G4 were substantially faster upon their release (and in the case of the 604/604e, their lifespan in Apple products) than the processors used in the PC world at those times.

And even though yellow is doing a great job of countering your arguments, I would point out that this is exactly why market share is a bad reading of the real market. The simple fact that many systems that were sold with Windows are no longer running Windows (and are running Linux, BSD or Solaris) is lost on those who, like yourself, live sheltered lives.
 
yellow said:
that's completely unfair to call the rest of us idiots \
Now you're twisting my words, I never even hinted that mac users were idiots, just that some have had a sheltered computing experience, by not giving Intel/AMD and formerly IBM's Cyrix chip boxes a chance.

And since revisiting the title of this thread "Who here has never bough a PC computer" with the implicatin being "a non mac computer." Non-mac computers around the business world run other operating systems thatn windows as you ponted out.

Takumi

P.S: I have used the Mac platform, and still do at uni (and been annoyed by the slowness of the G4, marveld at the easy to use OS, cursed at all it's animations that slow it down, been amazed by apple's contuned push to lead computer design and been disappointed with the 1 button mouse until recently, and been confused by their disertion form the Power4 processor.) I choose to use windows as my base operating system at this time because It supports the software I need to use, has access to most if not all of the GNU software packages, playes games exteremly well and is very stable. As a side note, the hardware is cheap, expandable and more upgradeable.
 
Takumi said:
Now you're twisting my words, I never even hinted that mac users were idiots, just that some have had a sheltered computing experience, by not giving Intel/AMD and formerly IBM's Cyrix chip boxes a chance.

And since revisiting the title of this thread "Who here has never bough a PC computer" with the implicatin being "a non mac computer." Non-mac computers around the business world run other operating systems thatn windows as you ponted out.

Takumi

P.S: I have used the Mac platform, and still do at uni (and been annoyed by the slowness of the G4, marveld at the easy to use OS, cursed at all it's animations that slow it down, been amazed by apple's contuned push to lead computer design and been disappointed with the 1 button mouse until recently, and been confused by their disertion form the Power4 processor.) I choose to use windows as my base operating system at this time because It supports the software I need to use, has access to most if not all of the GNU software packages, playes games exteremly well and is very stable. As a side note, the hardware is cheap, expandable and more upgradeable.
Why did you need to turn this thread into a beaten horse Mac-Windows debate?

Anyway - as others pointed out - it's hypocritical of you to make the dubious claim that the majority of Mac users here on this forum have "sheltered" computer experience.
 
I've never owned a PC but use them at school and at other family and friends houses. I obviously enjoy using my OSX much better.
 
i bought my first machine when i was 20 (1993) it was an LCIII i upgraded the RAM to 36Mb and a 500Mb HD (woohoo) used that for few years, i then purchased a 9500/200 which cost me an absolute fortune (considering i was only earning about 12k at the time) i upraded that with bigger HD' and more Ram, then in 2002 i bought my current machine a G4 700 iMac with 768Mb of Ram, now has 10.4.6 and a 16x DVD writer, i wil be buying a new machine at some point and when i do the G4 will still have pride of place :D

i have never had the desire to buy a Windoze machine and never will
 
although i have a kik @$$ gaming PC i have never Baught a PC system, i have however baught peecee bits and put them in a case and installed windows onto it (my gaming rig)

but i am thinking of geting rid my gaming Pee Cee, AthalonXP-3200 @2.23GHz, 1GB of DDR400 (2x512MB in dual channel), nVidia 6800GT overclucked beyond ULTRA (421MHz 3D core, 418MHz 2D core, 3.13GHZ-256MB GDDR3) 80BG 7200rpm Maxtor boot drive, 40GB Maxtor 5200rpm backup/extra-space drive 350W power suply, and fans up the ying-yang (on a variable resistor, so nouse goes from average pc - small int airport) probably an unnecesery ammount of fans but CPU never goes above 40-C MOBO 46-C HDD/DVD drives 36-C Graphics card 49-C.

anyone want it??? pm me:)
 
i have never ver bought a PC.
My first compùter ever was a MAC LCII, then I bought a PowerMac 6500/233. Then I bought my current computer a g4 Quicksilver.

my father bought an Imac rev. 2. a few years ago.

And this year Im buying aMAcbook pro, hopefully with dual core merom inside.
 
Macs only. Sort of.

Ah! I'm a proud Mac-only guy too. My father bought his last Mac when I still lived at with parents (a blueberry tray-loading iMac, about seven years ago), and he recently replaced it with a PC. He used Macs since, I think, 1985 because at his work all computers were from Apple. His work switched to PCs several years back, by the way. His logic behind buying a PC was the price, bloody eh!

I, myself, have only bought Macs. Planning to buy my Mac third this year (first one was a bondi blue tray-loading iMac, my current Mac is a 15" iMac G4 from 2002), and it's going to be an Intel iMac. Just waiting for the switch to Merom, or at least until Leopard comes pre-installed.

Even my mom, who has always shunned computers (in her whole life, she only had one job where she ever had to use one), bought a Toshiba laptop some time ago.

My sister still has her trusty old bondi friend from 1998. She says that not when but if she'll ever buy a new computer, it'll probably be a PC, even though she really loves today's Apple designs.

About six years ago I convinced my girlfriend to replace her then ageing Compaq laptop with a nice slot-loading iMac. She's now using her second Mac, a nice 12" iBook G4 she bought in 2004.

So in my family I am the only one who's never bought anything but a Mac and in whose house there's never even been a PC. My parents used to have a ZX Spectrum when my sister and I were young, though, but that probably doesn't really count. (Man, having to read a game from cassette; those were the days!) Well, me being the Mac guy that I am, I actually take pride in that. Have to use a PC everyday at work (and yes, plan to use Windows with Boot Camp once I have my new iMac, just for games) and know my way through Windows very well (I'm even somewhat of a helpdesk for many PC using friends), but only really feel 'at home' when behind my Mac.
 
bobber205 said:
I've seen alot of users have in their sigs that they've lately (in the last year or so) switched to macs...

So. Who here has never had to SWITCH to macs? Who knows the "horrors" ;) of the PC world only through computers that you didn'y pay for (thank god).

:D

That would be me. While my parents owned PC's, MY first computer is my PowerMac G4 2002 Quicksilver, purchased it all by my lonesome when I was 20 when it was the top of the line (at 933 MHz).

Will I ever buy a PC? Not with Windows on it. IF I buy one, it will be for a MythTV media center, and that's all. :D
 
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