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h.gilbert

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No because I live with my family so if I watch a movie or series on TV then it's usually with others.

I can't imagine a bunch of us sitting on the couch with everybody wearing these goggles. Would lose all the intimacy of sitting down and watching something together.

If you want to get rid of the TV to free up space, I'd suggest a good projector, pull down projector screen, and decent speakers. Makes it feel like you have your own little cinema.
 

ekwipt

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So instead of one $800-1000 TV set that will last 8-10 years, we'll need multiple $3500 Vision Pros so we can watch Movies/TV together, and then probably need to replace them every 5-6 years because Apple? Not yet!

Agreed, this is basically my reply, it looks freakin amazing, but with a family of four, I won't be buying four of these things... happy to have our projector and surround sound for family movie nights!
 

senttoschool

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I can't imagine a bunch of us sitting on the couch with everybody wearing these goggles. Would lose all the intimacy of sitting down and watching something together.
I can. I think the eye-displaying features and the AR aspect of the Vision Pro is enough to not feel too disconnected.

At the same time, I'd be excited to watch a dinosaur movie with my nephew together in AR and seeing dinosaurs pop off. Or I'd be excited to watch a live concert using Vision Pro with my significant other.
 

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Apple needs to lower the cost between $429-1599 for it to have any hope of shipping a quarter billion units annually.

Incidentally that price point is that of the current lineup of iPhones.
 

senttoschool

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Apple needs to lower the cost between $429-1599 for it to have any hope of shipping a quarter billion units annually.

Incidentally that price point is that of the current lineup of iPhones.
But it's way more tech than the iPhone. It can replace the iPad and the Mac. So it should cost between $2,000 - $3,000 for future versions.
 

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But it's way more tech than the iPhone. It can replace the iPad and the Mac. So it should cost between $2,000 - $3,000 for future versions.
I agree it is designed to replace everything and consolidate it to just 1 device.

Apple's prepping for a time like back then when the iPod was destroyed by the iPhone.

Better they control that timeline than a Google or Meta dictating it to them.

But still, if Apple wants to ship more than 1/3rd billion Vision Pro annually when Earth's population of 9 billion by year 2050 (27 years from today) then they gotta lower it down to iPhone price ranges.

If they can make the Vision Pro as bulky as typical eye glasses then the better.
 

Golf7-R

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Not sure if it can replace my 77inch oled. Surely not for family movie times.
Really interested how the video quality is compared to a 77 4k oled.
 

senttoschool

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I agree it is designed to replace everything and consolidate it to just 1 device.

Apple's prepping for a time like back then when the iPod was destroyed by the iPhone.

Better they control that timeline than a Google or Meta dictating it to them.

But still, if Apple wants to ship more than 1/3rd billion Vision Pro annually when Earth's population of 9 billion by year 2050 (27 years from today) then they gotta lower it down to iPhone price ranges.

If they can make the Vision Pro as bulky as typical eye glasses then the better.
I don't disagree with you.

When laptops were first introduced, very few people could afford them. They were bulky. Slow. Hot. Most people just stuck with their desktops.

Over many years, laptops eventually destroyed desktops in market share and completely replaced desktops for most people.
 

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I don't disagree with you.

When laptops were first introduced, very few people could afford them. They were bulky. Slow. Hot. Most people just stuck with their desktops.

Over many years, laptops eventually destroyed desktops in market share and completely replaced desktops for most people.
Laptops mattered after 2000. For Apple that meant when the 2003 PowerMac G5 came out it had to get a PowerBook G5 before 2006.

Apple moving to Intel back then was caused by the G5 being bulky, slow and hot.

Same thing occurred in 2007 to digital still cameras, MP3 players, PCs, Blackberry, Palm & Nokias when the iPhone came out.

Apple abandoning Intel for Apple Silicon in 2020 was because Intel refused to transition from 14nm to 5nm within the timeline dictated by Apple.

With Vision Pro... give it 2029-2034. All the devices that they mentioned will suffer revenue loses if not outright bankruptcy.

It will only occur when Apple manages to drop cost to hit price points of $439-1599 like an iPhone.

When that occurs then Vision Pro sales volume could hit 1/3rd of a billion units annually.
 

Julien

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Not sure if it can replace my 77inch oled. Surely not for family movie times.
Really interested how the video quality is compared to a 77 4k oled.
Interested too but it should be able to produce an even better image since all "room lighting" can be controlled and muted for true blacks and near infinite contrast. It also has HDR and will offer over 4K if you "zoom" up to a "full size" cinema screen. I assume this would use most of the pixels for picture. Although interested to know the aspect ratio of the OLED panels and how much of our peripheral vision it will cover.
 

Julien

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Not to mention wasn't battery life only 2 hours? Wouldn't even last a lot of films. We'd all be sitting down, goggles on and plugged into the wall.... how depressing
I'm sure if you have an aversion to plugging in while you are watching a move you can easily buy an extra battery and swap it out. I bet there will be an onboard small battery (or capacitor) for a few seconds buffer of hot swap time.
 

Isamilis

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While I wish I could afford this marvel, I can still fantasize, and the first thing that came to mind is getting rid of the TV. Anyone else?

What else will/would you be using it for?
One of the use case is rich elderly where they have difficulty to move (due to health issue) and want to enjoy the life.
 

Golf7-R

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Interested too but it should be able to produce an even better image since all "room lighting" can be controlled and muted for true blacks and near infinite contrast. It also has HDR and will offer over 4K if you "zoom" up to a "full size" cinema screen. I assume this would use most of the pixels for picture. Although interested to know the aspect ratio of the OLED panels and how much of our peripheral vision it will cover.
Yeah someone that tested the device said he could not see individual pixels. Damn maybe I should cancel my order for a 77 oled and invest in the vision pro next year ;)
 

senttoschool

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Vision Pro will not help the elderly move any further.
I wrote in another thread how I want to put on a Vision Pro with my mom and dad, and transform our living room into different parts of the world. They're a bit too old to travel around the world but it might be the next best option.
 
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I wrote in another thread how I want to put on a Vision Pro with my mom and dad, and transform our living room into different parts of the world. They're a bit too old to travel around the world but it might be the next best option.
I think spending quality time with them will be more appreciated.

Elder loneliness is a real thing.
 

ninethirty

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When my wife and I bought the home we're in now, we dedicated one room, in the basement, to be a home theatre, and it's the only TV in the house. All of our other rooms are designed for conversation, and yeah, filled with beautiful furniture, plants, and artwork. It's very refreshing compared to how I grew up where the TV was the center of every room.
 

parseckadet

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I wrote in another thread how I want to put on a Vision Pro with my mom and dad, and transform our living room into different parts of the world. They're a bit too old to travel around the world but it might be the next best option.

I think spending quality time with them will be more appreciated.

Elder loneliness is a real thing.
You see that part where senttoschool says WITH? Sounds to me like the idea is to spend time with them in a new and innovative way. Sharing new experiences with those you love sure sounds like quality time to me. Why are you assuming that he or she just going to slap a Vision on their head and walk off?
 
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parseckadet

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I actually think the Vision Pro does have the ability to open up immersive home theater experiences to more people. I don't know that it actually replaces a full blown home theater setup, but I bet it will get you pretty close while taking up far less space. People living in small urban apartments will be able to have experiences similar to those suburb-dwellers in their McMansions with home theater man caves.

We're living in a time where entire generations of people feel like they'll never be able to afford to own a home; that they're going to be trapped renting small apartments for their entire lives. In such a scenario, the main living area needs to be flexible, multi-functional, even if it's small. It needs to be a space for kids to do their homework while also serving as an entertainment space, often at the same time. How much would you be willing to pay If you put it in the context making small spaces feel larger, I could actually, in time, see something like the Vision Pro effecting the decisions people make on where they live.

And I haven't even touched on the idea that the Vision Pro could potentially replace multiple devices. I really don't see the need for having a mac nor an iPad if you have a Vision Pro instead. I'm not sure that will be the case at launch, but I think that's the road Apple is now headed down.
 
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tennisproha

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For individual experiences yes, I think it would be far superior to an OLED or projector. But for family viewing obviously.
 

parseckadet

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IIRC there was a rumor about an “extended” battery pack, so you’ll probably be able to buy a larger capacity for $$$.
Based on photos I've seen, the battery has a USB-C port on it. So any modern portable battery pack from Anker or whoever should be able to serve as an extra battery pack.
 
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