Who is switching to T-Mobile for the new iPhone

I have Verizon and my wife has T-Mobile. Few weeks ago we drove from Chicago to Sevierville, TN (not that far from Knoxville, TN). We were excited to put T-Mobile's data-free music streaming to test, but our excitement only lasted about 20 minutes. The moment we left Chicago area, the T-Mobile data became useless. My wife's phone was jumping between GPRS and EDGE through out the majority of the trip (I think we only saw 4G/LTE twice and only while passing thru some major cities).
For the most part T-Mobile is fine in Chicago and I have personally seen higher data speeds (up and down with lower latency vs. Verizon), but for anyone who is frequently traveling outside any major cities, I would think twice about T-Mobile.
 
I would do T-mbile, but Verizon is the only one that covers my area... I hope Verizon makes a deal with music companies too though. :p
 
Looking at converting the family and in-laws (and myself) to T-Mobile from Verizon. A Verizon share everything plan with 10gb of data and 9 lines will be $460 / month. If you subtract out the device subsidy ($450/24 = $18.75/line) of $170 it comes out to $290/month.

With T-mobile it will be $150/month for 9 lines, nearly 50% less than Verizon. $16.66/line. No overages, no contracts, unlimited talk and text.. seems like a great deal to me (living in large metro areas where coverage isn't an issue).
 
I have Verizon and my wife has T-Mobile. Few weeks ago we drove from Chicago to Sevierville, TN (not that far from Knoxville, TN). We were excited to put T-Mobile's data-free music streaming to test, but our excitement only lasted about 20 minutes. The moment we left Chicago area, the T-Mobile data became useless. My wife's phone was jumping between GPRS and EDGE through out the majority of the trip (I think we only saw 4G/LTE twice and only while passing thru some major cities).
For the most part T-Mobile is fine in Chicago and I have personally seen higher data speeds (up and down with lower latency vs. Verizon), but for anyone who is frequently traveling outside any major cities, I would think twice about T-Mobile.
Useless data coverage during trips? Sounds just like TMobile!

And for those who think that TMobile is going nationwide with 2x15/2x20...you might want to hit the fact books. They don't own that much spectrum in many parts of the US. Hell, Cincinnati doesn't even have LTE because they just don't own enough spectrum to do so.

And 2X20 with 700 MHZ? (This is directed towards the other poster) Dream on. Even AT&T/VZW don't have that kind of spectrum. The B12 700 spectrum TMobile owns is barely even enough for a 2x5 deployment. It is probably going to be closer to 2x3, but to the guard bands that need to be in place. And I'm not even taking into account the Channel 51 interference in top markets across the US.
 
Who is switching to T-Mobile for the new iPhone

I'm waiting to see what Uncarrier 7.0 is before I decide if I'm going T-Mobile or Verizon.

I'm leaning Verizon right now, but if Uncarrier 7.0 is something huge like an actual promotion for 2 line customers, then I'll go with T-Mobile.

I don't understand why T-Mobile has all these great deals for 4 person families, but are neglecting those of us with 2 lines. Right now, Verizon's $60/2 GB plan, with the ability to get subsidized phones at that price, can't be beat. So hopefully T-Mobile can beat that with Uncarrier 7.0. They have a real opportunity to gain a lot of customers with the iPhone 6 release. I'm sure there are a lot of people like me waiting to see what September 10 holds for T-Mobile.
 
Pretty much what almost any business does in similar situations.

I been shopping to get back to cable/satellite services and all of the salespeople dish each other and overly promise stuff. Then you receive the email offer for you to confirm; either the number of channels is overstated(talk about top of line premium plan) but email shows the 120 channels instead of the 180 channel one that is $60 more a month - (that has the good stuff! ) or they understate the equipment costs per month or both. The do not include the various fees and taxes in the sales either. The email quote is what you need to depend on; not what the salesperson said.
 
I can't use the "I wouldn't go to T-Mobile even if they paid me", but that's exactly what they're doing, and I still won't go to T-Mobile.

I get more coverage spitting than they offer in LTE. Heck, they barely even have decent 3G coverage in my area. My entire city is mostly EDGE and its not even good then.

Rather than make music streaming not count towards data usage (a majority of your customers have unlimited anyways, T-Mobile!), I think they should work on, ya know, actually having coverage.

I'm switching to Straight Talk for the iPhone 6 (or Moto X, whichever I end up buying).
 
I'm staying with T-Mobile for the next iPhone. No other carrier beats their data speeds or LTE coverage here in my area in Denver.
 
Useless data coverage during trips? Sounds just like TMobile!

And for those who think that TMobile is going nationwide with 2x15/2x20...you might want to hit the fact books. They don't own that much spectrum in many parts of the US. Hell, Cincinnati doesn't even have LTE because they just don't own enough spectrum to do so.

And 2X20 with 700 MHZ? (This is directed towards the other poster) Dream on. Even AT&T/VZW don't have that kind of spectrum. The B12 700 spectrum TMobile owns is barely even enough for a 2x5 deployment. It is probably going to be closer to 2x3, but to the guard bands that need to be in place. And I'm not even taking into account the Channel 51 interference in top markets across the US.

1) https://sites.google.com/site/cellularbinder/t-mobile-spectrum-holdings

Magenta areas are capable of 2x20 and red areas are 2x15.

Also, T-Mobile is deploying PCS LTE in Cincinnati.

2) Channel 51 interference can be eliminated through agreements with the operators, which T-Mobile has done with some operators.

I find it interesting how you willingly bash T-Mobile, yet do not use T-Mobile, nor care about them.
 
Nope, I tried the tmobile test drive and didn't find it better then my current carrier sprint.
 
I'm waiting to see what Uncarrier 7.0 is before I decide if I'm going T-Mobile or Verizon.

I'm leaning Verizon right now, but if Uncarrier 7.0 is something huge like an actual promotion for 2 line customers, then I'll go with T-Mobile.

I don't understand why T-Mobile has all these great deals for 4 person families, but are neglecting those of us with 2 lines. Right now, Verizon's $60/2 GB plan, with the ability to get subsidized phones at that price, can't be beat. So hopefully T-Mobile can beat that with Uncarrier 7.0. They have a real opportunity to gain a lot of customers with the iPhone 6 release. I'm sure there are a lot of people like me waiting to see what September 10 holds for T-Mobile.

These family plans are the mobile equivalent of how cable companies promote bundling. Aggregate more consumers or services into one account to increase the average revenue per account, and it locks an entire family in. The family plans go hand-in-hand with T-Mobile paying the ETFs, because it aggregates family members that might currently use multiple carriers and multiple plans with different contract dates together into one account.

Verizon and AT&T both offer 2GB/month individual plans at that $60 price point. It would be more attractive to me, if not for the $15/1GB overage charges. Considering that I use 3-4 GB per month, that would raise the monthly fees to $90 or $105 per month for my normal usage.
 
Who is switching to T-Mobile for the new iPhone

These family plans are the mobile equivalent of how cable companies promote bundling. Aggregate more consumers or services into one account to increase the average revenue per account, and it locks an entire family in. The family plans go hand-in-hand with T-Mobile paying the ETFs, because it aggregates family members that might currently use multiple carriers and multiple plans with different contract dates together into one account.



Verizon and AT&T both offer 2GB/month individual plans at that $60 price point. It would be more attractive to me, if not for the $15/1GB overage charges. Considering that I use 3-4 GB per month, that would raise the monthly fees to $90 or $105 per month for my normal usage.


AT&T doesn't allow you to carry a contract at $60 though so it's really $60 for Verizon with a subsidized phone or $80 for AT&T with a subsidized phone.

And I realize that 1 Line doesn't bring in much revenue, but Verizon for 2gb and a subsidized phone for $60/month ($68 if you average phone cost) versus T-Mobile at $75 for 1GB and a phone payment is kind of ridiculous.
 
AT&T doesn't allow you to carry a contract at $60 though so it's really $60 for Verizon with a subsidized phone or $80 for AT&T with a subsidized phone.

And I realize that 1 Line doesn't bring in much revenue, but Verizon for 2gb and a subsidized phone for $60/month ($68 if you average phone cost) versus T-Mobile at $75 for 1GB and a phone payment is kind of ridiculous.

You're right about AT&T. Ugh, damn fine print ... just reiterates why I hate contracts.

It's not really about the revenue per se, but the revenue per account. For whatever reason, that's the standard metric that analysts use for mobile carriers. So, the more lines that a carrier can bundle together into one account, the better it will look for that particular measure.

I suspect that T-Mobile will do something out of the box for their September 10th announcement. Legere's announcements have always rated high for their shock value (for multiple reasons).

Also, depending on how you use your data, 1 GB on T-Mobile potentially goes a lot further if much of your data usage comes from music streaming. My account has a 5 GB cap. But, with T-Mobile now excluding music streaming from their data caps, my monthly data usage has gone from 3-4 GB down to 1-1.5 GB. That puts me solidly into that 2.5 GB/line range for T-Mobile's family plan, should I ever choose to tie my wife and parents' accounts together with mine. Otherwise, AT&T's shared data would have been a better option if we ever switch to a family plan.
 
AT&T doesn't allow you to carry a contract at $60 though so it's really $60 for Verizon with a subsidized phone or $80 for AT&T with a subsidized phone.

And I realize that 1 Line doesn't bring in much revenue, but Verizon for 2gb and a subsidized phone for $60/month ($68 if you average phone cost) versus T-Mobile at $75 for 1GB and a phone payment is kind of ridiculous.

I'm paying $77 per month in total fees for unlimited everything on T-Mobile. i bought my 5S through them but for some reason, they never charged me monthly for the phone.
 
I'm paying $77 per month in total fees for unlimited everything on T-Mobile.

That $70 unlimited plan got bumped up to $80 a few months ago. The new plan comes with T-Mobile's new music service, if that means anything. Technically, all their plans are unlimited, and excluding music streaming from data caps can really stretch out your data usage, depending on how much streaming you do. Even if you go over your cap, music streaming will remain at 4G speeds.
 
TMobile where I live is a 2G bubble, so no.

With my grandfathered ATT plan, and FAN, it is still cheaper for me to stay with ATT and use the subsidy.
 
That $70 unlimited plan got bumped up to $80 a few months ago. The new plan comes with T-Mobile's new music service, if that means anything. Technically, all their plans are unlimited, and excluding music streaming from data caps can really stretch out your data usage, depending on how much streaming you do. Even if you go over your cap, music streaming will remain at 4G speeds.

I edited my post above to also say that for some reason, T-Mobile never charged me the monthly cost for the phone.

I get unlimited LTE and have used as much as 75GB one month just from tethering while my DSL modem was broken.

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You must have a grandfathered plan because it's $80 now.

Yes, I bought my 5S last November.
 
Who is switching to T-Mobile for the new iPhone

I suspect that T-Mobile will do something out of the box for their September 10th announcement. Legere's announcements have always rated high for their shock value (for multiple reasons).


I hope so. The other announcements prior to the free music streaming were cool, but really didn't make me care all that much. The free music streaming got me to pay attention, and this Uncarrier 7.0 announcement will push me one way or the other.

Some things that would push me over:

1. Single line plan that matches Verizon's promotional $60 plan with on-contract smartphone. (So that would mean 2.5 GB for roughly $40/month). Unlikely.

2. A two line plan that undercuts current prices by $10/month or adds 2.5 GB of data for the price of 1GB like they do with 3 or 4 line plans. I see this one as possible.

3. Announcement of LTE roaming agreement. Possible.

4. Video streaming or social networking doesn't count towards data. Highly Unlikely.

5. Rollover Data or something of the sort. I can see this happening as it kind of goes with what T-Mobile is preaching. They could sell it as "You pay for the data, so why should you lose it if you don't use it?"

If it has anything to do with wearable data plans, international something, tablet etc. I'm not interested. Show me something that will make me say, "Wow, these guys really want to make a change."

I imagine T-Mobile knows the entire iPhone community will be watching on Wednesday with interest. T-Mobile has to know that this could give them the huge boost.
 
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T-Mobile throttles after using 21GB of data. Their rep told me this when I asked the other day. So I have to stick with AT&T. I have a 30GB plan with AT&T.
 
T-Mobile throttles after using 21GB of data. Their rep told me this when I asked the other day. So I have to stick with AT&T. I have a 30GB plan with AT&T.

Have you tested this? The highest I've ever used myself was 15GB but I've known others to use in excess of 30-40GB and haven't heard anything about throttling.
 
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