WHO is the "Pro" in Apple???

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by CaptRB, Dec 27, 2016.

  1. CaptRB macrumors 6502a

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    A professional MacBook Pro user is no different than a Nikon or Canon pro user. It simply means that we need this gear to make money. It doesn't make me BETTER or my needs stronger. It simply means that my gear is connected to my income.

    Because of this I'm VERY careful about what I purchase. It's not a hobby for me. It's not for games and web surfing as a primary use.

    As a working photographer, I find that the tMBP is the best laptop to date. The superior screen, precise keyboard and beautiful design all fit my needs as well as suiting an image required for client contact. As a working screenwriter, much of the same applies. No aspect of the new design has a negative effect on my workflow.

    So...to all you professional owners of these new machines....let's hear about your actual workflow (good AND bad)!



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  2. hollandog macrumors regular

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    I don't use my "Pro" gears to make money...

    I shoot with D800 and post process with Capture One Pro on the MBP.
    Waiting for the LG 5K to enhance my PP workflow.
     
  3. Carilyn macrumors member

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    Professional photographer here.

    The new MBP breezes through my workflow. I process large RAW files through Lightroom, and then transfer images to photoshop to edit my JPEGS. I also have a 2015 iMac and my 15" MBP seems even snappier while processing images. For my needs, this laptop rocks.
     
  4. Nik macrumors 6502a

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    I work in Lightroom a lot and bought the 2016 15" MBP. Since this one only gives me 2-3 hours of actual use in Lightroom I returned it. Dont know whats going on at Apple, they only look at light-usage workflows now. I am back to my 2014 machine now.
     
  5. CaptRB thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Interesting. I have the 13" tMBP and am using Lightroom, Photoshop and they are usually open at the same time while working. I get over 7 hours, closer to 5 if I feed my 27" Dell 4K@60, when not plugged in.

    I wonder what was going on to get you such short battery life that's different from mine?


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  6. Dannejaha macrumors newbie

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    Professional software developer. Microsoft .net so i have to use VMware but i do stay in macOS. Some things can be done i Mac native and more is coming (Visual Studio).

    Battery life is the thing that is broken (or uneven) 15" TB i get about 3-4h when i work, but also 3-4h when i have it resting with nothing on but the screen.
     
  7. HBOC macrumors 68020

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    just wondering, but why did you go with the 13, especially when you stated "Pro user". the 13" is just too small for any critical work - even my 15" is the smallest i personally could go.
     
  8. Dave410 macrumors member

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    Very nice work on 500px, but the dustingentadventures link seems bad.

    I'm not a professional photographer (yet), but I too am curious about using a 13" dual-core MBP for post processing instead of a 15" quad-core. As I understand it, both Lr and Ps can use lots of cores.
     
  9. CaptRB thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    The difference in usability for PP work on a 13" and 15" screen is about zero. I can enlarge either to what I need, so I go for the machine that's more portable. For serious PP work I must have a 27" to work.

    I can't imagine doing my photo work on any notebook screen. I shoot portraits and jewelry, so a 4K 27" is the way to go.

    Even line-sheet catalogue work is too much for any 15" screen, so it would be a waste.


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    I've still got last years 15" rMBP, which will likely get traded for a 15" tMBP next year (when they get a bit more tweaking), but it's not something I really need.



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  10. Dave410 macrumors member

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    Just reminiscing -- when I was interviewing for my current job, one of the favorite questions was "What does being a 'professional' mean?" The correct answer did not involve money.
     
  11. iGangsta macrumors member

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    Tv series editor here. We're using FCPX and After Effect on Mac.

    Is the hardware "PRO"? Maybe, but the software is absolutely PRO and we need it
     
  12. Outrigger macrumors 68000

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    the only difference between a pro and an amateur is that a pro makes a living out of whatever he/she does. pro does not necessarily mean better quality.
     
  13. c0ppo macrumors 6502a

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    Developer here as well. I have already returned my tMBP 15.
    The most annoying thing for me was the touch bar itself. I really loved my ESC key, and TB in my use case scenario is a complete gimmick. I wish for a 15" version without TB, just like we have one on 13" version.

    Second thing is battery. In 6-7 days that I had the device, I couldn't get over 5h. And that is the maximum I would get. But if I turned on Parallels to develop in Windows, I would get around 2h maximum.

    What I loved: screen, build quality, keyboard (yes, I love butterfly keyboard).
    What I hated: TB, battery, ports.

    Returned to my 2014 version, and staying with that until it cripples down of age. If Apple doesn't produce anything that interests me in the mean time, I'm jumping ship. At least when laptops are in question :)
     
  14. jerryk macrumors 68030

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    You scare me. I am a developer also and use the ESC key all the time.
     
  15. HBOC macrumors 68020

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    thanks!

    yeah i haven't decided what to do with a website yet. I dislike zenfolio and smug mug (seem generic) - and it takes me FOREVER to make decisions sometimes.
     
  16. c0ppo macrumors 6502a

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    Of course you do. You're a developer :D

    But some developers like TB. I haven't met one yet, but a few on forums here wrote so :)
     
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    It is definitely looking like I will be hanging on to my 2015 15" rMBP for a while. Hopefully when the next iteration of the 15" comes out they will have done something with battery life and have a nonTB model of the 15".
     
  18. aevan macrumors 68000

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    I'm a executive producer and artist for a gamedev company called Mad Head Games. I use my MBP as my main illustration and concept art device, both in the studio and at home.

    I just recently started using the Touch Bar in Photoshop and find it very useful for selecting swatches, using select & mask, flipping images and toggling clipping masks - it's easier than using the keyboard, but I had to figure out what tools work better on it and what with kb shortcuts.

    Love the new screen, love how reds pop out and how bright it is. Also, this is the first time I don't use a mouse to navigate around and rely on the awesome trackpad that is also great to pan, rotate and scale images in Photoshop. I set up some nice gestures for Photoshop in BetterTouchTool and it's just incredible. Would hate to go back to a smaller trackpad.

    The lighter design is great for carrying my computer around, with my iPad Pro and Wacoms, I can set up my workplace anywhere. I just love it. Before this one, I used a 2013. MBP and loved that one too - I got the new one because I just love getting new gear.

    USB-C allows me to hook up more devices than on the old MBP, namely my Wacom tablet, iPad (not for charging but for using Astropad wich works best when connected via cable) and a Wacom Express Remote.

    I am almost always plugged in, but I get around 5-6 hours of Photoshop time on battery which is the same I had before, so I'm happy.

    Great machine. Expensive, but I just love using it.

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  19. comptr macrumors 65816

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    Same here, but I also dont use my pro gear to make money, I shoot with a OMD-EM1 & Lumix G-6 & use Lightroom on the MBP. With the upgraded display the new TB MacBook Pro will make a perfect Lightroom computer. Also I use a Sony 4K Camcorder and edit with the MBP & once I receiver my TB MBP I will be using that for Lightroom & Final cut.
     
  20. jerryk macrumors 68030

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    Great looking images!
     
  21. aevan macrumors 68000

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    Thanks :) Doodles before sleep, reading Macrumors and sketching - my way of ending the day :D
     
  22. erichui84 macrumors newbie

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    I assume when you mean you get 3-4 hours with the 15" TB while working you have your VM switched on too?

    I too am a software developer and uses my MBA 2011 (and previously 07 Macbook PRO) running VMWare Fusion and Visual studio and have always experienced about half my normal battery life while running VMs even when it is doing almost nothing (eg. I might get 5-6 hours while in MAC OS and only about 2 hours while running a VM that might be idle) I did briefly used bootcamp with my old Macbook pro back in 2009 and found that while running Windows the Mac battery just dies off really quickly regardless, which wasn't a surprise to me since the battery consumption probably aren't as optimised compared to Mac OS X.

    I have ordered a MBP 2016 13 with TB and will see how it goes (it has already arrived in a different country since I will be travelling there as I could get it about 700 AUD cheaper compare to getting it locally (it's the 512GB SSD with 16GB Ram)
     
  23. Marshall73 macrumors 65816

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    In VMware toggle the video setting to not use the discrete card, this saves a lot of battery usage. I don't know if parallels has this option but fusion does.
     
  24. erichui84 macrumors newbie

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    Thanks for the tip. I am using VMWare fusion but I don't have a discrete graphics card with my machines so I can't switch that off (currently using a MBA and have bought a 13 2016 TB which I haven't tried yet)
     

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