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This is junk. I tried to uninstall and it still keeps the voicemail. I can not get it to go back to my ATT voicemail. AVOID THIS PROGRAM!!!!!

Because you set up conditional call forwarding, similarly to Google Voice and Youmail, you need to remove that if you're uninstalling the app. Dial ##004# and press call if you're on AT&T to set your voicemail back to your carrier voicemail.
 
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Every time I get a suspect call, I just copy and paste the number into Google. About 9/10 times it finds the number immediately as a spammer, and I just tap block on the number and never get a call from them again.

What we really need is tougher regulation of phone numbers and the companies or entities behind them. There needs to be a system where a number can get flagged by users, and then a government agency investigates the business or entity. It's incredible to me that there are so many businesses and shady operations able to get an actual phone number that they can then use to spam and scam innocent people. Many times older people (I mean old enough that they get confused easily) are taken advantage of by these people. How can they get a phone number without some sort of deeper information provided to the phone company? To get a phone number, you should have to register a lot of verified personal info, and then be held responsible for what happens on that phone line. It shouldn't be so easy to get a phone number anonymously.

That would be socialism, and we can't have that.

Think of the job-makers!
 
No kidding. Their privacy policy:

"When you give WhoApp permission to do so, WhoApp accesses your mobile phone’s address book and collects the names, phone numbers, addresses and certain other information about your contacts ("Contact Information"). WhoApp incorporates Contact Information into a database that it maintains of all its users’ contacts (“Contacts Database “). When your Contact Information is incorporated into the Contacts Database, it is no longer linked or linkable back to you. The Contacts Database is used by WhoApp and by apps that are offered by the company that offers WhoApp (or its affiliates) to fulfill customers’ requests for service and to improve each app’s services for its customers. PLEASE BE AWARE THAT IF YOUR PHONE’S ADDRESS BOOK CONTAINS AN ENTRY FOR YOU, THAT INFORMATION WILL BE DOWNLOADED TO THE CONTACTS DATABASE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER CONTACT INFORMATION."

No thanks - I don't want my friends/family (with address and pictures?) to be entered in here, and I hope they wouldn't either.

Edit: Is this even legal? Sharing personal information of others w/o consent? This is really scary/sketchy stuff. If each phone has an average of say, 50 contacts, and they get 100,000 users...

You consent when you install the app. It's the users responsibility to read the privacy policy before installing the app.
 
Pretty much everybody on this thread will already have their data harvested in this way by other apps such as WhatsApp. Even if you don't use it, someone who has you in their contacts will. And there's not much you can do about that...

I resisted installing WhatsApp for a long time for that reason, but realised that resistance was actually futile, since my kids, wife, and extended family members used it. Then, my son moved to a different country for work and that meant I had to install it just to make keeping in touch easier.

It was a trade off between privacy and convenience for me there, and privacy lost.
 
We completely understand your privacy concerns and assure you that we take them very seriously. WhoApp leverages public data sources, but we never share the personal data we collect outside of our organization. We don’t use your contact book information to share information with others, we use it to increase the accuracy of the data we already have from other sources. We will never share your contact data by itself, we will only show that information if the same data is available through multiple sources. As a company we are committed to protecting users' privacy and security.

Pray tell, how is your company going to make money so that you can keep the lights on? You have a free app with no subscription model.

Your privacy policy seems to state that you share the contact information you receive with other companies -- "affiliates" is a vague term that can mean just about anything. Surely you know that there are phone numbers in people's iPhones that are not public knowledge (Tim Cook's number, Jony Ive's number, celebrities, etc.) Even if you de-link the name of the person providing the contact data with the data itself, you're still going to potentially have some pretty sensitive phone numbers which cannot be found in an online database.
 
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Pretty much everybody on this thread will already have their data harvested in this way by other apps such as WhatsApp. Even if you don't use it, someone who has you in their contacts will. And there's not much you can do about that...
Whatsapp does not upload and store the entire content of your address book. It only sends phone numbers to check whether they can be reached via Whatsapp (and of course you can prevent even that by not giving it permission to access your contacts). They also have a much clearer privacy policy.

https://www.whatsapp.com/faq/en/general/20971813
"WhatsApp looks at the phone numbers in your address book and then checks to see which of those numbers are verified in WhatsApp. This allows any WhatsApp users from your address book to appear as contacts in your Favorites list (Contacts tab on Android) and the Chats screen. During this entire process, only phone numbers are sent to WhatsApp for lookup"
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Even if you de-link the name of the person providing the contact data with the data itself, you're still going to potentially have some pretty sensitive phone numbers which cannot be found in an online database.
Not to mention home and work addresses, employers, job titles, birthdays, email addresses ...
 
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Here's the full "how to undo the voicemail" instructions, taken directly from the WhoApp website:
  • How do I turn off WhoApp?
    To turn off WhoApp you must de-program your phone’s conditional call forwarding settings.

    WARNING: Deleting WhoApp from your phone will not de-program your phone, and you will not receive your voicemails.

    To de-program please find your carrier below and follow the instructions:
    • AT&T: call this number, ##004#
      If that does not work call ##61#, then call ##62#, then call ##67#
    • T-Mobile: call this number, ##004#
    • Metro-PCS: call this number, ##004#
    • Sprint: call *730, then call *740
    • Verizon: call *73
      if that does not work call *920, then call *900
    • US Cellular: call *920 then call *900
 
Whatsapp does not upload and store the entire content of your address book. It only sends phone numbers to check whether they can be reached via Whatsapp. They also have a much clearer privacy policy.

Correct - I don't think I said WhatsApp uploads the entire content of your address book, but thanks for clarifying that anyway.

My point was, lots of apps already upload some type of content from users' address books. Whether that be 'just' phone numbers (which is bad enough), full contact details, or something in between. So chances are we're all boned :)
 
Correct - I don't think I said WhatsApp uploads the entire content of your address book, but thanks for clarifying that anyway.
You wrote that they were harvesting our data. But a phone number without an identity attached to it is pretty useless. I doubt they even record them.
My point was, lots of apps already upload some type of content from users' address books. Whether that be 'just' phone numbers (which is bad enough), full contact details, or something in between. So chances are we're all boned :)
I think there's a pretty big difference. And if you don't want the app to scan your contacts for reachable numbers, you don't have to. The app still works perfectly fine.
 
The majority of the spam calls are now VOIP coming in from other countries.

The phone number is forged. (Which causes havoc for the person that has the real number.)

How would you like to get investigated by a government agency when your phone number gets used to make a scammer call? Many of you seem to be under the impression that these scam artists are actually signing up for phone numbers and then using them to place their solicitation calls. That's not how it works. The robo-dialers can pose as any phone number, including yours, and do so randomly. Have you actually tried calling back the number of a robo-dialer? You often reach some bewildered business or resident who has no idea what you're talking about. I've even had a robo-dial that, against all odds, spoofed an actual person from my own contact list.

The challenge is "spoofed" numbers which I have seen more than a few of.

Ok everyone, I get it. They're spoofed. But how is that possible? Is there no mechanism which can prevent that from happening? I can talk about end to end encryption all day and mostly keep up, but simple landline phones I have no freaking idea lol. On the surface, it sounds like we need to overhaul how phones and/or phone numbers work in the first place. Also, it sounds like part of the problem is that there's no standardized VOIP protocol—some common system to reach anyone with something simple like a user name. Too many competing platforms. Unfortunately whatever new system that comes about probably wouldn't have end-to-end encryption and make it even easier for the government to spy on us.

Anyone know if FaceTime and audio-only FT uses end-to-end encryption?
 
Ok everyone, I get it. They're spoofed. But how is that possible? Is there no mechanism which can prevent that from happening?
Not really. With certain types of access to the telephony network (such as a so-called primary rate interface that is e.g. used by enterprises) you can set your own caller ID. The carriers generally do not verify the ID once it has entered the network. In particular many VoIP providers have such an access and allow their customers to set the caller ID. It's really no safer than the From: address in an email these days.

BTW, the same company that makes WhoApp conveniently also offers a caller ID spoofing service ...
Anyone know if FaceTime and audio-only FT uses end-to-end encryption?
Yes they do (although Apple could theoretically mount a man-in-the-middle attack since they manage the keys).
 
Whatsapp does not upload and store the entire content of your address book. It only sends phone numbers to check whether they can be reached via Whatsapp (and of course you can prevent even that by not giving it permission to access your contacts). They also have a much clearer privacy policy.

https://www.whatsapp.com/faq/en/general/20971813
"WhatsApp looks at the phone numbers in your address book and then checks to see which of those numbers are verified in WhatsApp. This allows any WhatsApp users from your address book to appear as contacts in your Favorites list (Contacts tab on Android) and the Chats screen. During this entire process, only phone numbers are sent to WhatsApp for lookup"
[doublepost=1463604744][/doublepost]Not to mention home and work addresses, employers, job titles, birthdays, email addresses ...
From the app itself
"When you give WhoApp permission to do so, WhoApp accesses your mobile phone’s address book and collects the names, phone numbers, addresses and certain other information about your contacts ("Contact Information"). WhoApp incorporates Contact Information into a database that it maintains of all its users’ contacts (“Contacts Database “). When your Contact Information is incorporated into the Contacts Database, it is no longer linked or linkable back to you. The Contacts Database is used by WhoApp and by apps that are offered by the company that offers WhoApp (or its affiliates) to fulfill customers’ requests for service and to improve each app’s services for its customers. PLEASE BE AWARE THAT IF YOUR PHONE’S ADDRESS BOOK CONTAINS AN ENTRY FOR YOU, THATINFORMATION WILL BE DOWNLOADED TO THE CONTACTS DATABASE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER CONTACT INFORMATION."
 
Why do we need more regulations when i can block the number locally? We don't need no more stinking regulations.

I agree with you 100%. Regulations are not the correct answer to the problem. Besides, how is U.S. law really going to affect some guy sitting halfway around the world who can easily spoof his phone number, IP address, etc.? Answer: it won't.

And don't even get me started on the complete joke that the "Do Not Call" list is.
 
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Probably a privacy nightmare ....

BUT Whatsapp did the same back in 2009-2010 when they started and at that time, iOS didn't even ask for your permission for the app to access your contact list! I've heard a lot of concerns about privacy for Whatsapp but they got away. That's why they were worth $19 billion to Facebook. I never agreed to share my contact list to Facebook messenger but they've got mine anyway through Whatsapp.
 
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The app will not even work for me. Everytime I enter in my phone number to sign up it says, "Your phone number is not compatible with Whoapp at this time." My phone number is from Verizon. Oh well no biggie...
 
This App may be more useful as it continues to develop. Lately, in my area, we have had a serious rash of IRS Scammers from the Middle East. I know this App may be limited, but it could be a useful tool for Law Enforcement if someone fell victim.
 
Because you set up conditional call forwarding, similarly to Google Voice and Youmail, you need to remove that if you're uninstalling the app. Dial ##004# and press call if you're on AT&T to set your voicemail back to your carrier voicemail.
Thanks
 
No kidding. Their privacy policy:

"When you give WhoApp permission to do so, WhoApp accesses your mobile phone’s address book and collects the names, phone numbers, addresses and certain other information about your contacts ("Contact Information"). WhoApp incorporates Contact Information into a database that it maintains of all its users’ contacts (“Contacts Database “). When your Contact Information is incorporated into the Contacts Database, it is no longer linked or linkable back to you. The Contacts Database is used by WhoApp and by apps that are offered by the company that offers WhoApp (or its affiliates) to fulfill customers’ requests for service and to improve each app’s services for its customers. PLEASE BE AWARE THAT IF YOUR PHONE’S ADDRESS BOOK CONTAINS AN ENTRY FOR YOU, THAT INFORMATION WILL BE DOWNLOADED TO THE CONTACTS DATABASE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER CONTACT INFORMATION."

No thanks - I don't want my friends/family (with address and pictures?) to be entered in here, and I hope they wouldn't either.

Edit: Is this even legal? Sharing personal information of others w/o consent? This is really scary/sketchy stuff. If each phone has an average of say, 50 contacts, and they get 100,000 users...
So this is the phone extension of the internet "You Have A Virus! Pay Me $XX And I'll Clean Your Computer!"??
They've moved their model to our mobile(computers) where they'll get the same info they've scared us (unknown calls) into asking them to protect us from (WhoApp)?

Sigh. Devious rat-tards.
 
Probably a privacy nightmare ....

BUT Whatsapp did the same back in 2009-2010 when they started and at that time, iOS didn't even ask for your permission for the app to access your contact list! I've heard a lot of concerns about privacy for Whatsapp but they got away. That's why they were worth $1.9 billion to Facebook. I never agreed to share my contact list to Facebook messenger but they've got mine anyway through Whatsapp.

$19 billion, not $1.9 billion....
 
It currently doesn't seem to be installing for me- just hangs there when I try the final login through a social media account.

Edit, apparently needed to turn the wifi back on.
 
If it's not a number you recognize, or no caller ID, and they don't leave a voicemail, it's likely SPAM. Do you need WhoApp to tell you that? This cannot block such calls coming to you. Seems useless to me. I just keep my iPhone in Do Not Disturb mode, with the exception being callers on my favorites list. Everyone else can wait for my response.
 
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