I know alot of people pre-ordered their phone, and some people still pre-ordered even though it wont be here till 2nd week in october, when the 4 came out I walked right into my AT&T corp store and bought one the day of launch. No line at all, but there was a line at our apple store. So who's gonna wait in line, and who's sticking with their pre-order. I have to wait till 2nd week in october till I have the funds.