iPhone 15 Pro Max Who’s upgrading from 15 to 16 because of pwnm?

[dannyh5319]

I feel ever since I’ve had the phone pwnm has been a factor whether I rotate refresh rate from 120hz to 60hz or turn True Tone off or on, I’ve been dealing with this for a year and just fed up, am hoping 16 is better on this at least.

 

[Shirasaki]

Me not. I upgrade mainly because of financial reasons.

 

[Neofox]

Is there any evidence that it’s gonna get better with the 16? It may even get worse who knows

 

[snipr125]

I feel ever since I’ve had the phone pwnm has been a factor whether I rotate refresh rate from 120hz to 60hz or turn True Tone off or on, I’ve been dealing with this for a year and just fed up, am hoping 16 is better on this at least.

If the PWM flickering rate of the 16 is similar as the 15 Pro (approx 240hz) then you’re going to get the same issues unfortunately OP. Have you tried increasing the brightness to at least 50%?

 

[dannyh5319]

If the PWM flickering rate of the 16 is similar as the 15 Pro (approx 240hz) then you’re going to get the same issues unfortunately OP. Have you tried increasing the brightness to at least 50%?

I think I use it at 60 percent now

 

[snipr125]

I think I use it at 60 percent now

If you find it really too bright, then try the ‘reduce white point’ at 25%.

 

[now i see it]

The 16 will be just as bad as the 15. It’s still an OLED panel and they all flicker.

 

[thadoggfather]

Are 15 pro max and 14 pro max the same pwm flicker give or take out of curiousity

And does 60hz non pros have less

 

[now i see it]

I can’t comment first hand but what I’ve read is that the variable refresh rate (ProMotion) can give problems. Refresh is another form of flickering and maybe when it’s all over the place from 5hz to 120hz, the eye/brain can’t figure out WTF is happening = nausea, vertigo, eyestrain, headache. Etc.

 

[dannyh5319]

Are 15 pro max and 14 pro max the same pwm flicker give or take out of curiousity

And does 60hz non pros have less

Oddly enough 14 pro didn’t give me issues as bad as the 15

 

[Drosera]

What's pwnm?

 

[4sallypat]

I don't see any flickering on any of my iPhones.

Is this only for certain people with different optics ??

 

[majkom]

U dont see it, but you brain register it, and uf you are sensible to it, u are ****ed

 

[wickedrm]

I don't see any flickering on any of my iPhones.

Is this only for certain people with different optics ??

It’s one of the great conspiracies of our time. It’s best to let them be. Is the flickering in the room with us right now?

 

[shadowboi]

Matte screen protectors seem to help with eye strain. Everything will be a bit blurry on the screen and less saturated but somehow with less effect on eyes. Somehow iPhone 12 feels better on eyes than 11 Pro. I haven't tested 13, 14 or 15 tho. Using SE for particularly that reason, seems to be easier on eyes but not completely ideal as older phones

 

[hooch88]

I feel ever since I’ve had the phone pwnm has been a factor whether I rotate refresh rate from 120hz to 60hz or turn True Tone off or on, I’ve been dealing with this for a year and just fed up, am hoping 16 is better on this at least.

If you are sensitive it's better to avoid all smartphones with PWM, which is all OLED and many IPS phones.
iPhone 16 is same as 15, same 480 Hz PWM, see this test:

 

[dannyh5319]

If you are sensitive it's better to avoid all smartphones with PWM, which is all OLED and many IPS phones.
iPhone 16 is same as 15, same 480 Hz PWM, see this test:

I’m currently using the 13 pro with little to no issues