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I got a 2.3 refurb 17" mbp. I figured $220 over the 2.2, what the heck? When I started it up, I found out Apple had quietly upgraded the RAM to 8GB, a $200 value online. For $20, the extra 100 mhz was well worth it.
 
Apple has the best marketing skills I've ever seen. They do not have a common policy for all stores. Each store is sent computers configured according to the demographics. I live in a wealthy area, our local Apple store has a huge inventory of all configurations.

I've visited more than twenty other Apple Stores in my travels for work and noticed they are all stocked differently. At one store I met the manager and he was very candid, confirming my observations.

Also, once every few months or so, Apple will test each market by shipping a small quantity of all models to see how they sell and if the store would benefit from an adjustment.
 
Apple has the best marketing skills I've ever seen. They do not have a common policy for all stores. Each store is sent computers configured according to the demographics. I live in a wealthy area, our local Apple store has a huge inventory of all configurations.

I've visited more than twenty other Apple Stores in my travels for work and noticed they are all stocked differently. At one store I met the manager and he was very candid, confirming my observations.

Also, once every few months or so, Apple will test each market by shipping a small quantity of all models to see how they sell and if the store would benefit from an adjustment.

i didn't know that.
 
i got a 2.3 refurb 17" mbp. I figured $220 over the 2.2, what the heck? When i started it up, i found out apple had quietly upgraded the ram to 8gb, a $200 value online. For $20, the extra 100 mhz was well worth it.

omg omg where how where how :(
 
I got a 2.3 refurb 17" mbp. I figured $220 over the 2.2, what the heck? When I started it up, I found out Apple had quietly upgraded the RAM to 8GB, a $200 value online. For $20, the extra 100 mhz was well worth it.
Refurbs have been known to come with hardware upgrades - it depends on what was in the machine that Apple got back from the customer. You were lucky in the memory this time. it won't always happen.
 
If its cooled properly.

I agree with you 100%. I would just like to point out the TurboBoost functions in relation to the temperature of the laptop. Inadequate cooling=less TurboBoost.

The 2011 MPBs have notoriously bad cooling (get very hot) and so this difference will be noticed even less.

Atleast none of us have to worry about this considering MBPs dont have this issue. :)
 
omg omg where how where how :(

it's a game called "refurb roulette." Sometimes, you get lucky. It reminds me of last year I bought a coach ticket to fly from austin to los angeles and during boarding, my boarding pass scans as "invalid" and the agent smiles and hands me a new boarding pass for First Class!

I also got a free magic mouse as a "we're sorry" gesture since my original 2.2 17" MBP that I ordered was DOA. :D
 
Atleast none of us have to worry about this considering MBPs dont have this issue. :)

Really, they added 10 watts to the TDP.

Then there are all these threads.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/203692/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1109471/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/395061/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1115839/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1144136/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1154535/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1155837/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1155105/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/920820/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/904861/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/916197/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1148421/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1145832/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1145803/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1144587/

Other places off this site.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2764570?tstart=0
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=47&topicid=83024

There are numerous other examples of macs getting hot (not perhaps overheating as they are still within operating temperatures) but definitely getting hot. And higher temperatures will decrease the lifetime of the device.

They are one of the thinnest computers on the market. Couple that with (at least for the 15 and 17 inchers) a quad core cpu and an ati 6750m and that is a lot of heat.
 
Apple has the best marketing skills I've ever seen. They do not have a common policy for all stores. Each store is sent computers configured according to the demographics. I live in a wealthy area, our local Apple store has a huge inventory of all configurations.

I've visited more than twenty other Apple Stores in my travels for work and noticed they are all stocked differently. At one store I met the manager and he was very candid, confirming my observations.

Also, once every few months or so, Apple will test each market by shipping a small quantity of all models to see how they sell and if the store would benefit from an adjustment.

True they're marketing is great, but I don't see them marketing that speed bump at all. It's just an option. There's no ad telling you you'll get laid if you upgrade.
 
While the processor speed bump might not be noticeable directly, the additional cache will be for anything that is memory and CPU intensive. L3 cache is slower than L2 and L1 (which are both smaller than L3), but is still much faster than RAM. When an application needs memory, its a trickle down effect, and it starts from the CPU's memory (L1, L2, L3) to the system bus RAM, down to the hard drive in that order from smallest/fastest to largest/slowest.
 
Well, in addition to 0.1GHz increase, there is also the 8mb L3 cache. I have no idea if those together justify the price.

Does the 2.6GHz processor not have the L3 cache? It's kind of ambiguous.
 
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