Highly unlikely. Why does Apple need this? Is the iPad not selling well all of a sudden? The kindle is a completely different product. If this is what Apple does as a way of "finding it's own non-Jobsian" vision we're in trouble
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Highly unlikely. Why does Apple need this? Is the iPad not selling well all of a sudden? The kindle is a completely different product. If this is what Apple does as a way of "finding it's own non-Jobsian" vision we're in trouble
I'm not assuming that. I can see you have no experience in sales whatsoever.
This is something that applies to any product for sale. The more choices you give the buyer, the more confused they get, which could result in losing a sale. It could be a phone, a car, a Computer or even a hot air balloon.
Just ask any real salesmen and you'll understand what I mean.
Those 3 iPhone models are identical except for storage capacity. It's a very simple decision to make.
The iPad is a similar situation: Once you decide WiFi or LTE, you choose your Carrier preference, and then select your model based on storage capacity.
There's always a guided path towards a final decision.
But If Apple was to release an iPad Mini, that would complicate things even more:
Do I need a large display? maybe not
But I want Retina!?
Oh, it has a slower processor, will I ever need the A5x.
Darn, the battery lasts only 6 hours; I'm not sure if that would be enough.
Oh, there's no camera on that one!?
I'm not sure if I'll need a camera...
Mmm.. If it doesn't have a camera, maybe I should just buy the Kindle Fire... Well... you now what, let me ask my father for advice. I'll come back some other day...
RESULT = LOST SALE
As simple as that...! And you don't need to thank me for the free Sales Lesson.
How on earth does anyone make their mind up on which iPod to buy? I mean should I get the Classic or maybe the Nano, OMG what about the Touch. I think my head is going to explode!!!!!!!!!!I'm not assuming that. I can see you have no experience in sales whatsoever.
This is something that applies to any product for sale. The more choices you give the buyer, the more confused they get, which could result in losing a sale. It could be a phone, a car, a Computer or even a hot air balloon.
Just ask any real salesmen and you'll understand what I mean.
Those 3 iPhone models are identical except for storage capacity. It's a very simple decision to make.
The iPad is a similar situation: Once you decide WiFi or LTE, you choose your Carrier preference, and then select your model based on storage capacity.
There's always a guided path towards a final decision.
But If Apple was to release an iPad Mini, that would complicate things even more:
Do I need a large display? maybe not
But I want Retina!?
Oh, it has a slower processor, will I ever need the A5x.
Darn, the battery lasts only 6 hours; I'm not sure if that would be enough.
Oh, there's no camera on that one!?
I'm not sure if I'll need a camera...
Mmm.. If it doesn't have a camera, maybe I should just buy the Kindle Fire... Well... you now what, let me ask my father for advice. I'll come back some other day...
RESULT = LOST SALE
As simple as that...! And you don't need to thank me for the free Sales Lesson.
Oh just knock it off please. The iPad mini idea is ridiculous.
I hate when people take a fictional idea and try to warp reality to come up with a stance to support the fiction.
It doesn't exist, and won't exist, because there is NO reason for it. Just get over it. Stop pretending that somehow, magically a smaller iPad would in ANY way be better than its counterpart. what a joke.
Heh, it's too bad people are down voting you cause it shows they still don't understand. This concept is actual proven marketing. Give people too many choices and they'll decide they need to think about it further. Which in general means they won't buy that day, they'll come home, and have a chance to think why they don't really need that item (or even find something else).
Hell, working retail when I try to give people all the information I know about which product to buy on something I know a lot about, I usually end up with them deciding they need to think more about which one they want or deciding it's just simpler to keep with the product they were getting (My job though is more to be helpful and provide information than try to sell one certain product but if I needed to sell a certain product, you can be sure if I was a good saleswoman I wouldn't be going into too much detail on all the info I could give them and just stick to some selling points).
You are better off not giving them a ton of information/choice if you want to make the sale.
That's not saying it's great for the consumer, but to successfully market something, it is better for the person trying to sell. And yes, Apple is trying to sell you something. Don't go fooling yourself that in the end their goal isn't to try to sell as much as possible. In general making good products and building a good reputation for customer service is more because that is their strategy in making more money (by trying to keep people loyal and coming back to them).
How on earth does anyone make their mind up on which iPod to buy? I mean should I get the Classic or maybe the Nano, OMG what about the Touch. I think my head is going to explode!!!!!!!!!!
I guess I must have dreamt the past 25 years when I was a Product/Marketing Manager for some of the world's biggest IT and Consumer Electronics companies.
You clearly have no idea how this works. It's called Product Differentiation. You set out a product road map on which you place the products in sequence: entry level, mid range and high end. This is why you have a 13", 15" and 17" MBP models or 8GB, 32GB and 64GB iPod Touch or 3 iPhones (3GS, 4 and 4S).
Then you draw people in with the headline price on the entry level device and while they are in store you try and up sell them to the midrange or top end model. It's lesson one in the sales manual. I should know I've trained enough sales people over the years.
You then "communicate" that road map in a clear and concise manner by putting the products next to each other so the buyers can see for themselves what the differences are.
Eventually there will be a larger iPad with a screen approx the size of an A4 sheet thereby completing the 3 product circle: iPad 7, iPad 10, iPad 13.
Heh, it's too bad people are down voting you cause it shows they still don't understand. This concept is actual proven marketing. Give people too many choices and they'll decide they need to think about it further. Which in general means they won't buy that day, they'll come home, and have a chance to think why they don't really need that item (or even find something else).
Hell, working retail when I try to give people all the information I know about which product to buy on something I know a lot about, I usually end up with them deciding they need to think more about which one they want or deciding it's just simpler to keep with the product they were getting (My job though is more to be helpful and provide information than try to sell one certain product but if I needed to sell a certain product, you can be sure if I was a good saleswoman I wouldn't be going into too much detail on all the info I could give them and just stick to some selling points).
You are better off not giving them a ton of information/choice if you want to make the sale.
That's not saying it's great for the consumer, but to successfully market something, it is better for the person trying to sell. And yes, Apple is trying to sell you something. Don't go fooling yourself that in the end their goal isn't to try to sell as much as possible. In general making good products and building a good reputation for customer service is more because that is their strategy in making more money (by trying to keep people loyal and coming back to them).
They practically sell iPads as fast as they can make them. Why under cut that with a cheaper tablet? This is just silly non-sense to get people like me worked up! lol
Highly unlikely. Why does Apple need this? Is the iPad not selling well all of a sudden? The kindle is a completely different product. If this is what Apple does as a way of "finding it's own non-Jobsian" vision we're in trouble
There won't be a iPad with another screen size, they will introduce another Product with another name. It won't be called iPad.
Zzzzzz... Zzzzzzzz...
25 years ago, there was barely any internet access to the general public.
And the whole technology market has changed dramatically in the past 10 years or less.
Dream on about iPad 13"... LOL! What have you been smoking???
You're probably one of those pushy salesmen people dislike...
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Finally someone that understands. I was in sales for several years and I really hated it! But I learned how it all works the hard way, first hand experience, not by reading a book or being trained by an old fart salesman.
If you bothered to read my posts you would see that I am not a sales person. I have been a Product Manager and a Marketing Manager for a number of multi-national IT companies over the years. One of many tasks was to train sales people how to sell to idiot know it alls like you.
You're that guy in the Samsung ads aren't you. "I could never buy Samsung coz I'm a creative" "Dude you're a barista". I bet you're a barista aren't you or a college kid who thinks they know it all even though they've never done a hard day’s work in their life.
Edit: Oh no wait you're a shop assistant aren't you. Probably one of those geeks in a PC store who try and pretend that they know what they are talking about to bemused customers. Why did you quit? Didn't sell much? Should have listened to your product training lol.
Clearly a 7.85" iPad would have UI elements exactly the same size as the iPhone so the tap targets would be the same size. However, iPads are typically held much farther away than iPhones meaning that the entire UI would look smaller than on an iPhone. That decreases usability.
If this device existed as stated, it would have a smaller ppi than the original iPhone. It is safe to say that Apple is done with low pixel density displays for their handheld devices. That is absolutely clear.
Old NON Retina displays, in order of increasing screen size AND decreasing pixel density:
iPhone: 480x320 @ 3.5 = 164.83 ppi
iPad 1 & 2: 1024*768 @ 9.7 = 131.96 ppi
This places the Rumored Small iPad out of order:
iPhone: 480x320 @ 3.5 = 164.83 ppi
Rumored Small iPad: 1024*768 @ 7.85 = 163.06 ppi
iPad 1 & 2: 1024*768 @ 9.7 = 131.96 ppi
It makes more sense, is logical and is more likely for the Retina-screen-loving Apple to double the iPhone 4's resolution in both directions, thus:
iPhone 4: 960*640 @ 3.5 = 329.65 ppi
More Likely Small iPad: 1920x1280 @ 7.85 = 293.96 ppi
iPad 3: 2048*1536 @ 9.7 = 263.92 ppi
This would be slightly higher ppi than the iPad 3, but slightly less than the iPhone 4. Right where it should be based on it's size, and viewing distance from your eyes. Plus developers still get the whole benefit of being able to easily remake apps by doubling the pixels on their iPhone 4 app screens.
It's just logical. Can I get some props for that at least?
Anything else is nonsense, rubbish, and doesn't even deserve a rumors post.
For this mini iPad thing to be really interesting, the bezel would have to go.
The big advantage of a smaller sized kicks in when you get to the size you can slip into a standard back pocket. Being able to walk around with your device, and have the option of having your hands free is where you get a big gain in convenience/usability.
Take this 7.85 screen that's being talked about here -- take away the bezel -- and you have something the overall size of the current 6in Kindles .... which just happens to be the largest size that's pocketable.
Apple will certainly make something like this at some point.
The sooner the better for me.
It is a dirt-cheap display for Apple to manufacture because they've been making them for last 5+ years.![]()
Never understood with Safari why they waste all that screen space on the address bar and search field for that matter. You only use them for a very short period then they could disappear. On the iPad it's easy to pull open a new tab then type address than it is to edit the address of the old tab. I fine i open and trash tabs all the time.
On a new tab everything is crammed into the top of the screen, the keyboard takes out the bottom quarter and your left with white space in the middle that could well be used. They could just put the address field as an accessory view on keyboard no need for it to take up any space at the top.
They arent going to go back to a lower res screen after coming out with products that push the Retina...if they do this, it will be Retina.
iPad or iPad Mini. 2 products. It's hardly that difficult to chose. It's no different to choosing a 13", 15" or 17" MacBook. I don't hear anyone complaining about that.
My point (nor the point of the post I was replying to) had nothing to do with that. It wasn't arguing that we shouldn't be given a choice. It's explaining why Apple doesn't like to offer too many choices from a marketing point of view. Please don't confuse the two.
Wow, I can see you just sit on a desk on a top floor pretending to manage sales teams while watching porn all day.
How can you manage something you don't know? To manage a sales team you need to be a salesman first. And if you were, that was too long ago.
And your guesses on who I am were all wrong; I know who I am, and have nothing to worry about. All I know is I shook up your english pride enough to get you worried about your own identity and make you mad.![]()