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Why Apple Doesn't Give Us All Features at Once, Such as in the iPad

roadbloc said:
Why doesn't my macbook have 512bit support and a 16 core quantum processor with 5 terabytes of ram? :rolleyes:
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You see, this is silly childish comments that only look foolish.

There is a difference between a company looking around to see the practical best items they can use to build a machine, as always used to be the case for everyone even Apple.

All during the 80's and I guess the 90's, when people were putting together something they really tried their hardest to fit into a machine the best bits that technology would allow and still stay in budget.

Now things are more run by big business and the money men, which is to some degree where things are going wrong, and innovation is in some ways being put behind profits.

Now it's more juggling specs, not wanting to put something too good in now, even though it can be and the cost is negligible as it can be held off till the next model. This sort of thing never really used to happen as people, even apple were killing themselves trying to be the very best, pushing the envelope.

Machines such as the Amiga, a jaw dropping stunning piece of hardware that blew everything away at anywhere near it's price point would never get made now. And that's a crying shame.

No, Apple won't fit a 20 Thz CPU with 100 gigs of ram as that's silly, but they could fit 1 gig of ram instead of half a gig, perhaps they could run the CPU at 1.4 instead of 1.2.

All I want is simple, I want people, technical people, not businessmen, to make the best machine they can with the hardware they have to hand right now.

If that means, another 10 dollars for a better camera, or another 5 dollars for a SD card reader, or some other tiny amount, then I'll happily pay those extra few dollars.

It's been proven time and time again that people want the better item.

Make two iPads, 50 dollars apart, one with better specs and see how many people select the cheaper model.

Do I ask too much for them to use the best they can practically can use today.

Next year, they will have higher spec items to pick from and next years model can have those items.

Just give me today, the best you can make for me today. It's a simple request.
 
Piggie said:
Just give me today, the best you can make for me today. It's a simple request.
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It is a simple request. And here's the simple response: Find whatever company gives it to you. If none do, Kickstarter is your friend and you can make your own company that caters to your (and others like you) taste. :)
 
Apple (and any other manufacturer) is able to put MUCH more in their devices. I'm absolutely sure of that. Technologies are however introduced slowly, so that manufacturers don't destroy their own market. What if Apple puts a blazing fast processor in their new Macs? The fastest processors that can be produced? I'm sure they exsist, manufacturers simply introduce features and hardware upgrades slowly to the consumer, as I mentioned before, because otherwise people don't see the need to buy a new version of products like Macs or iPads or whatever iThing.
 
Piggie said:
No, Apple won't fit a 20 Thz CPU with 100 gigs of ram as that's silly, but they could fit 1 gig of ram instead of half a gig, perhaps they could run the CPU at 1.4 instead of 1.2.
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And if they do, how many people would actually notice the difference? My guess is, only the people who want to run the latest, most advanced games, or do otherwise resource-intensive things with their computer. For 99% of my computer usage (Word, simple Excel spreadsheets, email, web browsing, audio and video playback) the difference won't matter. If they can add more RAM and processing power without raising the price, I'll take it. If they leave out the extra stuff and save me a few bucks, thats fine, too. I don't much care.
 
Because Apple is not a charity but a business, (and a great one)

And to be honest, I'm okay with it, that helps innovation too, If apple would give us 600 Crappy features that are amazing but don't work well nobody would buy the device from the beginning.

Technology gets better through time, that's how it works..
 
filmbuff said:
You don't have to over think it - Apple limits features on its devices so that you will upgrade to the next version and they can keep selling products. Tons of people will, too. It's not evil, it's just how business works.
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Video game companies dont do this. The reason the ds got upgraddd later was because they found ffeatures it could benefit from down the line, not tha nintendo planned ahead to do it on purpose. Same thing with the wii. Motion plus wasnt ready or existed when they first started creating the wii, but when thetech hit nintedo put it on the market. Even evil sony put its heart into the ps3 and even sold and continues o sell it at a huge loss for customers.
 
Woah, hold the phone.

So to a poster a while back, are you trying to say immorality isn't bad?

Signed,

P.O.P
Pissed off philosopher.
 
This is business people! Apple is all about milking the cash cow, but it still has awesome products. i buy most of them and so do many others, as so long as apple thinks there the best then they wont "push the envelope". And in my opinion they are the best, and as with the ipad they could of put it out as a test product to "get it right" and if the next one sucks then screw them. Ill still buy it but it will disappoint me. and in the case as apple tv it should support more but it doesn't. I'm not a genius but you don't have to to understand the business is business.
 
Alvi said:
If apple would give us 600 Crappy features that are amazing but don't work well nobody would buy the device from the beginning.
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That, in essence, is how most tech companies compete against Apple: They see what Apple produces, then they quickly produce another one like it . . . but it also has a bunch of check list items (5 USB ports!!!) that look good on the chart, but the average person hardly notices. Then they wonder why their knockoffs don't sell better.

When you think like a techie, you do not get what Apple is doing. It's Zen-like the way they are running circles around the tech world while the tech world is absolutely convinced Apple is behind them. Hilarious.
 
Why don't you try explaining what features you believe Apple will introduce on the iPad 2 that will put them back ahead of other manufacturers?
 
Specifics aside, Apple is simply a stubborn, independent company that does things it's way. And while there is nothing wrong with that per se, in more than just a few cases, it's a sheer rip off to their loyal customers. Just one example, Apple did not put 3G in the first iPhone when at that time every other smartphone with the exception of BlackBerrys were shipping with 3G.
 
Eso said:
Why don't you try explaining what features you believe Apple will introduce on the iPad 2 that will put them back ahead of other manufacturers?
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Apple is already ahead of any other tablet currently selling in the market. What the future holds for competitors and Apple we'll have to wait and see. But when I look around right now, I see nothing I would trade my iPad for.
 
Aatos.1 said:
Specifics aside, Apple is simply a stubborn, independent company that does things it's way. And while there is nothing wrong with that per se, in more than just a few cases, it's a sheer rip off to their loyal customers. Just one example, Apple did not put 3G in the first iPhone when at that time every other smartphone with the exception of BlackBerrys were shipping with 3G.
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What were the business reasons for Apple to do this at that time? I doubt the sole criteria was to rip off customers.

When you view Apple through the idea of what-I-want, it's frustrating (for me too). When you view Apple through the idea of what-makes-business-sense, they are doing well overall. They have their mistakes, but boy are they getting a lot right. Sometimes that's all you can hope for. Name another tech company that does more right and less wrong than Apple.
 
Aatos.1 said:
Specifics aside, Apple is simply a stubborn, independent company that does things it's way. And while there is nothing wrong with that per se, in more than just a few cases, it's a sheer rip off to their loyal customers. Just one example, Apple did not put 3G in the first iPhone when at that time every other smartphone with the exception of BlackBerrys were shipping with 3G.
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I thought it was for battery life, as in the year 3G chips were released that were much better for battery life. Apple said this and then tech sites were confirming lower power versions becoming available a while before the 3G launch, I thought.
 
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blackberrypilot said:
Apple is too conservative. I can't believe the iPad only has 256MB of memory.
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Do the exact specs really matter? The average consumer has no idea how many MB of memory their iPad has, most of them probably don't eve know what that memory is or is used for. What matters is that the 256MB functions perfectly fine with no freezing or lagging. Why should they use more when they have all they need? From personal experience, I've had my iPad for a considerable amount of time, and it has had a slight keyboard lag all of once. That's pretty damn impressive. Especially considering the Galaxy Tab, which noteably lags even in demo videos, and has more memory than the iPad. I don't know it off the top of my head...Yep, 512MB. Twice as much RAM, yet it lags and iPad doesn't. So does it really matter, if it performs just fine (which is to say, better than anyone else) the way it is?
 
Read this:
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/01/ten-things-missing-from-the-ipad/

By not making it more of a pc than an iphone and have more features than an ipod touch or iphone and better specs, they really didnt citalize on a lot of potential gains. By limiting its potential and hardware on purpose they could have even more sales and the critics like that qired article would have swayed more ppl with tech knowhow into getting one. Articles like that really damaged apple hence why the crappy xbox kinect is now the fastest selling gadget not the ipad.
 
Stirolak123 said:
Read this:
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/01/ten-things-missing-from-the-ipad/

By not making it more of a pc than an iphone and have more features than an ipod touch or iphone and better specs, they really didnt citalize on a lot of potential gains. By limiting its potential and hardware on purpose they could have even more sales and the critics like that qired article would have swayed more ppl with tech knowhow into getting one. Articles like that really damaged apple hence why the crappy xbox kinect is now the fastest selling gadget not the ipad.
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I believe the Kinect is one of the most amazing things out there right now.

I'm not talking about it as a 360 controller, but as a piece of tech at the price it is, seeing what hackers have been able to do with this is showing some mind blowing potential the Kinect 3D tracking/visual system can do in a whole range of products. At the moment they have only just scraped the surface of it's possible applications.
 
Dumbledorelives said:
Do the exact specs really matter? The average consumer has no idea how many MB of memory their iPad has, most of them probably don't eve know what that memory is or is used for. What matters is that the 256MB functions perfectly fine with no freezing or lagging. Why should they use more when they have all they need? From personal experience, I've had my iPad for a considerable amount of time, and it has had a slight keyboard lag all of once. That's pretty damn impressive. Especially considering the Galaxy Tab, which noteably lags even in demo videos, and has more memory than the iPad. I don't know it off the top of my head...Yep, 512MB. Twice as much RAM, yet it lags and iPad doesn't. So does it really matter, if it performs just fine (which is to say, better than anyone else) the way it is?
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The major, in your face, daily problem that I believe is due to RAM is that when you are a web browser, looking say at these forums, and reading any particular thread. When you wish to go back to see another thread the whole web page has to reload again. It really slows down the web browsing experience I fine. Esp with sites that are reasonably content heavy such as Engaget. On a site like that it's almost painful to use the iPad for web browsing.
 
kdarling said:
Apple waits for the right combination at the right time, one with little risk, and they had no legacy devices to worry about. (Now they do, and we're seeing the same old UI longer than necessary.)
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Changing the UI just for changes sake, is folly surely? The UI needs a very subtle tweak(notifications, quick access toggles, etc), but a complete overhaul, especially when it works and everyone 'gets it', is dumb, in my opinion.
The desktop computer UI hasn't changed fundamentally in 25 years, precisely because of this.
 
Carniphage said:
Microsoft was the first to bring a tablet to market. In fact, they have been vigorously pimping the tablet form factor for over a decade.

In theory, no one should be in a better position to launch a competitive tablet than MS.

And yet, they seem to have not learned anything from their mistakes. Their last-minute conversion to ARM will take another 18-24 months. They have not yet shown anything resembling a workable tablet interface.

If you conclude that all Apple did was wait 'till the moment was right, then how come the entire tablet revolution seems to have taken Microsoft by surprise?

It's odd that you conclude that Apple has taking an "easy" "little-risk" strategy. If its really that easy, then why can't Microsoft, with all their wealth of experience can still not create a credible tablet device?

C.
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Proof(in my opinion) that Microsoft still doesn't get it, with regard to tablets, is their move to ARM. That in itself isn't a bad move, but the impression Ballmer gives me, is that the reason a full Windows OS on a tablet has failed thus far, is purely down to mobile hardware not capable of running it efficiently, rather than it's UI paradigms not being ideally suited to the form factor.
 
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Stirolak123 said:
Read this:
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/01/ten-things-missing-from-the-ipad/

By not making it more of a pc than an iphone and have more features than an ipod touch or iphone and better specs, they really didnt citalize on a lot of potential gains. By limiting its potential and hardware on purpose they could have even more sales and the critics like that qired article would have swayed more ppl with tech knowhow into getting one. Articles like that really damaged apple hence why the crappy xbox kinect is now the fastest selling gadget not the ipad.
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Uh. Did you read the article? Aside from the title, the article is EXTREMELY pro-iPad.
 
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