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Why Apple will never support Blu-Ray
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How about my first choice is my computer setup over my tv, which i hardly ever use
do you always result to sly insults when people dont do as you think they should?
And what kind of audio do you have on your computer setup? My point is that anyone who thinks they need more than 720p on their computer is nuts, unless they sit less than a foot away from their screen, hard to do even on a laptop.
If 720p is not available in your country, that is the option you should be fighting for, not blu-ray.
Advantages for 720p download over blu-ray:
1. More battery life on laptops.
2. Keep all your movies conveniently on your hard drive.
3. No need to carry around physical discs.
4. No need to go to the store or plan in advance to watch a movie.
5. If you get an SSD and remove disc drive, no moving parts in your laptop. Ideally, any portable device should have no moving parts.
You need 5Mb/s to stream great quality 720p, which is not out of most people's reach. If you only have 2.5Mb/s, you can still download a 90 minute movie in 3 hours, or start watching it after an hour and a half.
Yes, blu-ray still delivers the best home theater experience but if you wanted the best home theater experience, you wouldn't be watching on a computer anyway.
headphones?!
ok, whatever..
i'll stop knocking your wishes but i really do believe bluray wishers are way in the minority when it comes to all mbp users.. maybe not on these spec forums but in the big picture..
most people i know that have a mbp use it for work and apple's focus should be on those aspects.. it is called mbPRO afterall..
That's acceptable. It's still an additional investment I shouldn't have to make when I'm buying a supposedly high-end laptop.
Yes MacBook PRO, all but one model of which now has a poxy SD slot instead of an Expresscard slot. How's that for a professional laptop? Prosumer maybe, definitely not professional.
Well, life isn't all about work. When I'm done with work I might want to watch a mov- oh wait.
Seriously, just understand this: an expensive high-end laptop like the MBP should offer current-gen technology. That does not mean that every user has to take advantage of every aspect of this technology - for example, I have never once used the Express Card slot on my MBP. But hey, some people need and appreciate this feature and so I'm all for including it! Choice is good, and "professional"-level computers should offer choices. As I said before, the choice Apple should offer when it comes to optical media is one between either current-gen media (= Blu-Ray) or no optical media at all. Everyone would be happy. Currently, nobody is happy. If you're not interested in watching movies on your laptop, I'm sure you like the Superdrive even less than I do.
If your purpose is just to have a movie or two with you on your macbook pro, I can see your point. The added value of having all of my movies available for my media center is fairly priceless when you get up to more than a handful of discs.
i don't think you're nuts (you in general).. (well, except for the fact that you're spending way too much cash on a computer that won't pay for itself
)i just don't think you have any better use for your computers.. if you depended on them in order to support yourself &/or family then i think your need for bluray would diminish.
Exactly, that's the whole point! Even if I owned the greatest HDTV-setup EVER, I'd still clamor for Blu-Ray in my MBP. Because I might at some point be away from that glorious HDTV and then I might want to watch a mov- oh wait.
Did you read anything I wrote?
The blu-ray fanatics all sound like hypocrites: I care so much about picture quality and lossless sound even though I watch all my movies on a computer.
True video enthusiasts could care less about resolution. A lot of them still use CRTs because they produce better picture quality than flat panels. No CRT can do 1080p. When it comes to picture quality, color, contrast, and black level all come before resolution and those are all better on a good quality HDTV than the 27" iMac. Don't get me started on the TN displays of laptops.
When I bought my new bedroom TV, I bought the most expensive 720p TV instead of a cheap 1080p TV.
If Apple offered a good 1080p-panel in their laptops (it doesn't even have to be IPS), the jump in quality from DVD would be very apparent to pretty much everyone. Would you seriously argue otherwise? This is all I'm talking about.
No, I wouldn't argue otherwise. DVD is crap. I'm talking about 720p download vs blu-ray. If all blu-rays came with a 720p digital version, would that make you happy?
right, yet another feature i personally don't need but am paying for.. probably came about from a bunch of lobbyists (forum whiners) actually striking a chord with someone at apple (or a would-be lobbyist that actually has a position at apple)..
apologies for getting caught up in this argument.. if you succeed in getting mac bluray support then i'll still be buying the computers with features i personally don't need so go for it and good luck!
adios
A 720p-digital copy would be marginally better than the current situation, but it would still suck to pay for a 1080p-copy of a movie and not be able to watch it at that quality. Especially since an implementation would be trivial, all it takes is a decent screen and a Blu-Ray drive in the MBP.
But yeah, we can at least agree that DVD is crap. The Superdrive needs to die FAST and be replaced by a choice between a laptop with BR or a laptop with no optical drive at all (but some other goodie instead; I've written about this numerous times on these forums).
To me that is absolutely worthless, since iTunes (if it was available outside US) only offers 720p versions, and 720p vs. 1080p on a 100+ inch screen and a FullHD-projector is, well, unacceptable to me. So thank you, but I'll be buying my movies on Blu-ray discs, and I'd really like to be able to bring some of them with me when traveling and do more than just stare at the covers.
Actually, I'd rather have an external drive that I can bring along when I need it, plus get the added goodies of losing the internal drive.
i don't think you're nuts (you in general).. (well, except for the fact that you're spending way too much cash on a computer that won't pay for itself
i just don't think you have any better use for your computers.. if you depended on them in order to support yourself &/or family then i think your need for bluray would diminish.
What does this even mean? The computer "pays for itself" if it is suited to the purpose I bought it for, no matter what that purpose is. Or do you think one should only be allowed to own Apple's "pro"-products if one actually earns one's living using them? A lot of students, myself included, would disagree - but you know, apart from using it for my university work, I'm actually earning some money with my MBP (I'm a freelance translator), so perhaps I'm worthy of owning it in your eyes...?
BTW, even the most professional professional might want to watch a movie every once in a whi- oh wait.
Sure! In my scenario, Apple would of course replace the external Superdrive they're offering now with a BR-drive.
Bring your digital copy (MakeMKV, see above) or bring your external, portable, bus-powered drive with you. If this capability were so important to you, wouldn't you be doing this already?
Apart from the tech deficiencies, why would Apple support BluRay when that would take away sales from HD movies in the iTunes store?
I can't tell if you're joking or not -- don't understand what the smiley is supposed to mean.
But in case you're not joking: movie sales are small peanuts. High-end laptops bring in a lot more money. And if everybody else has the latest tech in their high-end and you don't, your customers stop paying you the big bucks.
What's the point? My current MBP is not capable of displaying FullHD. Also, it has a puny hard drive which is already full.
Not to mention that external BR-drives are still quite expensive where I live.