Probably, but I believe an Apple-branded one (with the same hypothetical specs and aesthetics) would sell a lot better, by a wide margin.
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Why are 5K monitors so hard?
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Probably, but I believe an Apple-branded one (with the same hypothetical specs and aesthetics) would sell a lot better, by a wide margin.
It really would. You can see how popular the new macbooks have been despite a huge proportion of people not needing them or benefitting from them. I would wager that 50%+ of the people buying the M1 pro and max would be better off with the 13" M1 purely due to the battery life and form factor. I had one and it was an amazing machine all things considered.
An apple branded 5K or 6K monitor around £2k would sell really well IMO. I just paid the eye watering cost of the 32" XDR because I wasn't happy with any of the other options and its a beautiful display but complete overkill for my use and just far too expensive.
Fingers crossed they will see the demand is there for a well built apple branded monitor in the next year or so.
Apple sells a base iMac 27” for $1799. A base Mac Mini is $700. I find it hard to believe they couldn’t sell the monitor alone for $1000. I presume they have an agreement with LG that prevents them from selling something competitive, but I would wager a $1000 Apple 5k monitor would sell a heck of a lot better than a $1200 LG.
I have a newer iMac in the office, but now that we are hybrid, I really needed another decent computer at home. The M1 MacBook Pro is perfect, but the external monitor situation is not. I started with an LG 34" regular widescreen at 3440x1440. This is a very nice monitor overall - and I found I really love the single-monitor widescreen interface, but the low PPI was especially jarring moving from an iMac and MBP day in and day out. And for my job it simply wasn't sharp enough for me to be confident of what I was seeing on the screen.
Rather than go with the 27" LG, I've just received a 34" LG 5k2k which is a huge improvement in sharpness even not running at 2x to keep the extra workspace I've become accustomed to. I can sit so much further away from a 34" widescreen than my 27" iMac that I think even though it's not pixel perfect, it's likely to be good enough for my work which calls for close attention to detail, but not absolute perfection. It has been interesting to see the rather dismal screen offerings in the ~$800-1200 price range, however.
I have a newer iMac in the office, but now that we are hybrid, I really needed another decent computer at home. The M1 MacBook Pro is perfect, but the external monitor situation is not. I started with an LG 34" regular widescreen at 3440x1440. This is a very nice monitor overall - and I found I really love the single-monitor widescreen interface, but the low PPI was especially jarring moving from an iMac and MBP day in and day out. And for my job it simply wasn't sharp enough for me to be confident of what I was seeing on the screen.
Rather than go with the 27" LG, I've just received a 34" LG 5k2k which is a huge improvement in sharpness even not running at 2x to keep the extra workspace I've become accustomed to. I can sit so much further away from a 34" widescreen than my 27" iMac that I think even though it's not pixel perfect, it's likely to be good enough for my work which calls for close attention to detail, but not absolute perfection. It has been interesting to see the rather dismal screen offerings in the ~$800-1200 price range, however.
Heck, there’s no reason why Apple can’t add a target display mode to the new iMac 27 when it comes out. Back in the day it may have been difficult to do, but not now.
A $1000 was about what I paid for the Thunderbolt Display all those years ago. I would love to see Apple introduce a similarly sized—27”/priced monitor with a variety of ports included.
I’m sorta kicking myself now that I gave the display to a family member who, at the time, resumed his photography and art creation.
Turns out Amethyst is more than aware of what I wrote. Sorry 'bout that man, or woman as the case may be.
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I am very much aware of this "problem", which is why I'm using a 27" 5K monitor at pixel-perfect 2560×1440 HiDPI.
My answer was mainly directed at Fishrrman, who is currently using a 32" 2560×1440 (≈92 ppi) monitor IIRC. Compared to that, even a "4K" monitor scaled to look like 2560×1440 will look a lot better. This is still using a HiDPI mode, just not the pixel-perfect one.
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Bottom line is that the current monitor market truly stinks if you want a retina screen for your Mac Mini or MacBook Pro/Air. I just feel like an Apple branded 27" mini-LED 5K monitor makes a lot of sense at roughly $2,000. Hopefully it will come in 2022.
Yeah, if it is a Liquid Retina XDR ProMotion mini-LED adaptive 120Hz Nano-texture (did I get all the buzzwords?) display.
However, I am still hoping for an $1800 iMac 5K minus the computer, the chin and about $500, although I understand this is highly unlikely to happen.
Amen.
I would be very interested in a 32" 5K monitor as well, if one even exists, or interested to know if there are rumors of one. The LG 5K 27" was released in 2019, so is it due for an update?
damn, I really need a monitor to replace my aging ACD 30". I love the XDR but I can't see myself paying $7k for it (Nano/Stand). I just got a 16" Max MBP so I don't feel paying double for a display. I keep looking for an alternative but can't find anything but some God-awful looking displays. This is so sad. lol
Personally, I think the LG 5K monitor is worth the $1300 price from Apple. Delivery mid January. It is an awesome display. Only wish I could have something a bit larger, like a 30" 5.5K display, for around $2000. And a more premium feeling enclosure.
People have just got acclimatized to thinking monitors should cost a few hundred dollars.
Another option is to get a stopgap 4K display and wait and see what shakes out with the expected new iMac next year. People are hoping it gets a bit bigger, which might provide some other standalone display options
People have just got acclimatized to thinking monitors should cost a few hundred dollars.
Another option is to get a stopgap 4K display and wait and see what shakes out with the expected new iMac next year. People are hoping it gets a bit bigger, which might provide some other standalone display options
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From a practical perspective, will you see more lines of text (e.g. working with e-mail) with the 32" 4K monitor than the LG 27" 5K monitor? I know that the 5K will be crisper, but from a practical perspective, seeing more lines of text may be more useful.
It is spendy enough to qualify for opening a business account, which can get you a discount.
Then, you can use an Apple Card to get cash back. If you have a business your jurisdiction may allow you to write off the cost as well.
The monitor will have resale value. If you hold on to the monitor for four years the cost of ownership may start to look better. Or it may not.
But often people get sticker shock with the XDR.
But it is not like the money goes into a black hole. Unless the black hole being talked about is an ultra high contrast void on the front of your new pro display.
I know. I qualify for the the Edu discount and I have Apple Card but still pretty steep price. Also, I keep hearing about an update display with Apple chip inside. Not sure if is a XDR. We'll see.
Ideally I would love an Apple baby version of XDR display maybe at 5K res. but costing around $2k. That would be more on the ballpark I would love to pay.
That depends on your settings. If you scale it to "more space" that is what you get.
It makes sense a new display would have Apple Silicon in it, but I don’t see that happening until Mac Pro is updated. And that won’t drop until WWDC at this point.
I’ve been predicting the mid market release since may of 2020. It hasn’t borne out. I got the XDR that June and am glad I didn’t wait.
I’ve even got a theoretical press release of a new Apple 5k display largely called for in this thread.
One thing to note is that in my concept of this, Apple offers the pro stand. And if people went with this, or got a nano matte finish it wouldn’t be that big of a jump up to the XDR.
It could happen, and it may.
But not soon.
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The problem with the Pro Display XDR is that it goes against every fiber of my dignity to buy it due to the $1000 stand.
If the stand were included and it cost $1000 more, I'd actually feel better about the purchase!
The $1000 stand just violates basic integrity principles in my moral fiber and I can't bring myself to buy the product. It's almost as bad as not wanting to go to a certain chicken restaurant because they donate money to homophobic causes. It's just WRONG.
And yeah, some people might think this is silly, but it's just how I think.
Yep. I was hopeful with the introduction of the new MBPs this past month we would see a new lower-end display. Damn...
I agreed now the earlier we might see something is either WWDC or next October when the Mac Pro M1 is released. I might get a BenQ 32” or another display as a stopgap for now. My ACD 30” is barely hanging and it's time for an upgrade.
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You can get the VESA adapter and a really nice Ergotron arm for $500.
Although I guess paying $200 for the VESA adapter is just as bad as paying $1000 for the stand, but perhaps there are non-Apple options?
Yeah, the $200 VESA adapter is ridiculous too. VESA really should be the default, and the stand should use VESA, or clamp in around the VESA plate. That's how pretty much all other monitors in the industry are designed.
Here's a pasta and update to the 5k proposed 5k Apple Display I linked to above.
I'm curious what else might get updated here, such as perhaps a replacement for IPS LCD display tech, or somehow hit gets 120Hz refresh.
I updated the release date, and removed the "standard" stand I had in there. Today, I don't think Apple would make a new 5k monitor with specs like the above and have it use a different mount type than what is already on the XDR.
I have and value the Pro Display Stand, but I agree Apple should drop the price, and updated it to $899 to reflect this.
I'm curious what else might get updated here, such as perhaps a replacement for IPS LCD display tech, or somehow hit gets 120Hz refresh.
I updated the release date, and removed the "standard" stand I had in there. Today, I don't think Apple would make a new 5k monitor with specs like the above and have it use a different mount type than what is already on the XDR.
I have and value the Pro Display Stand, but I agree Apple should drop the price, and updated it to $899 to reflect this.