Why are Mac users always left the dust?

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  1. jwolf6589 macrumors 65816

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    Just upgraded to Office 2016 and its not that much different from office 2011! At work we run Office 2010 for Windows 7 and these Mac versions just cannot compare to Windows. Why do 99.9% of corporations in america run Windows? Is it because of a lack of features on the Mac? I am upset I paid $250 for a product that is nowhere near the Windows version of Office. I thought at least Office for Mac would match an older version for Windows but I thought wrong.
     
  2. boppin macrumors regular

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    perhaps these arent useful?

    could you give us an example?
     
  3. Audit13 macrumors 601

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    Mac Office 2016 is pretty close to Windows Office 2016, but that's just opinion.

    Why do a lot of corporations run Windows? I think it may be due to the fact that many businesses lease desktops and laptops, both of which are cheaper than Mac desktops and laptops.
     
  4. jwolf6589 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Close to Windows? Have you ever run Outlook on Windows and compared it to the Mac version?
     
  5. Moonjumper macrumors 68000

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    Microsoft putting the best features of a Microsoft application on the version for a Microsoft operating system is not a surprise.

    For others, it is often because of the small percentage of macOS users, so they put less effort in, then Mac users stay away, and so the percentage of users is even smaller and so the downward spiral goes on...
     
  6. Audit13 macrumors 601

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    I use the mail app in Sierra for Hotmail and Gmail and outlook 2016 at work. I don't have outlook on my Macbook so I can't compare the two.
     
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    Microsoft Office 365 Business Premium at £10.00 a month, 1TB Onedrive, 5 devices, appears to be identical to Windows version.
     
  8. boppin macrumors regular

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    what exactly do you miss?
     
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    I have Microsoft outlook on my works windows machine, and really don’t like it. Much prefer Mac Mail. I do very basic word processing and am always frustrated with Word in Windows, prefer to work with Pages on the Mac.
     
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    I used to run Office 2008 on my 2008 Macbook and that version was a disaster! I find Office 2016 (run on an 2017 MBP) pretty close to the Windows version, but I don't use Outlook but Mac mail and iCal.
     
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  12. jwolf6589 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Pretty close? You seriously have not used the extensive power and feature set available in Windows Outlook.
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    I am talking about feature set within the applications.
     
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    This is more of a question to ask of MicroSloppyCoding
     
  15. AFEPPL macrumors 68030

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    Yep - I miss some of the outlook features. But still office is the best value software out there. I couldn't live without it..

    You could always run it within a VM on your mac if you need those features.

    Using mac mail and pages and all that crap is like going back to the dark ages. No thank you.
     
  16. imaccooper macrumors 6502

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    I work with word, PowerPoint and excel on Mac and on pc basically every day and they are pretty similar. I think Microsoft did a pretty good job making them comparable this time vs the 2011 version being very different than the programs on windows.

    It appears your problem is only with outlook on a Mac, what exactly are you missing? You keep saying features or feature sets but nothing specific. Do you have any examples of outlook on Mac being worse than on windows?

    Also, you said you just bought this, can you return it wherever you bought it from? May not be possible, but if it's only been a few days it's worth trying to return it if you are truly this unhappy with it.

    As for the question of why a lot of corporations use windows, I think the majority of corporations use windows largely for cost reasons. I (read: my job) just dropped $2500 on a new iMac and $2300 on a new MacBook Pro for instance. For most office workers, a word processer and internet browser is all that is required with maybe one or two simple applications. For those uses, it makes sense to buy a $300-$500 pc vs a $1200 base model iMac. Obviously this isn't the case everywhere, but I think that is where a large disparity comes from.
     
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    And legacy software, better wider options in terms of high performance needs/hardware, corp control at a desktop level, ROI (which you can nearly prove anything with) newer features, open eco system.. the list is long and wide, cost is not normal a deciding factor.
     
  18. jwolf6589 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    https://support.office.com/en-us/ar...-Windows-bd54cb79-d367-4c2f-89c7-3e5d16618f87

    Windows Outlook has many more features.
     
  19. Frankfurt macrumors 6502

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    If you would have read my comment carefully, then you would have realized that I was quoting that I don't use Outlook. Hence, I cannot comment on Outlook capability on the Mac version. Excel, Word and Powerpoint are very similar. If you dislike the Mac version, you can always run Windows via bootcamp or parallels and use the Windows version as others mentioned. Problem solved.
     
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    In my opinion, paying $250.00 for Office was a bad move. You could have gone the subscription route much cheaper. In addition, you didn't give any specifics as to why you were unhappy with the software. If your argument is centered around the fact that the Mac version doesn't have the exact features as the Windows version, that is a very weak argument considering you had previously been using the 2011 version. Hence, you knew the Mac version wasn't, and still isn't the same as the Windows version. Why should it be, considering Microsoft's goal is to steer people toward its product line.
     
  21. Negritude macrumors 6502

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    You realize, of course, that Microsoft develops Office and Windows, and they have a vested interest in not allowing feature parity between the Mac and Windows versions for exactly this reason, so that people like you will complain and blame someone other than the responsible party, which is Microsoft itself? Do you understand the problem with your complaint? Can you see the flaws in your reasoning?
     
  22. rampancy macrumors regular

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    Indeed. It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that Microsoft delivers an inferior Office experience for users on one of their foremost competing platforms.

    The only thing is that I really don't like the idea of software subscriptions: When I buy a software product, I want to be able to use it as I see fit without worrying about online activation, or continually paying for a subscription to use it.

    Because of history. Apple's historic market strengths were in education and content creation, not business computing. Apple did try several times throughout the 1980s (see The Macintosh Office initiative), 1990s and early 2000s, but they were usually half-hearted, or half-baked and never got off the ground. Key business decisions (and blunders) made by IBM, Microsoft and Apple in the 1980's (especially when it came to licensing of key software assets) led to MS-DOS becoming the de-facto standard for businesses. Microsoft leveraged this to ensure that Windows 3.1, and later 95 and NT/XP made them the dominant platform for large corporate settings. For roughly similar reasons Office became the de-facto standard for productivity suites as well.

    Arguably though, this has become a lot less relevant with the rise of Linux/OS X, and the shift in relevance from traditional desktop computing to mobile computing.
     
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    So is the issue Office in general or just Outlook?

    I use Outlook on a Mac and my iPhone in a corporate setting. Works pretty well for my needs. What specifically is the issue with Outlook of Office? Not sure if your complaint covers the whole suite or just Outlook.

    Sounds like you enjoyed some features in the 2010 version that did not make it to the Mac side?
     
  24. Blaze4G macrumors 65816

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    If memory serves me Outlook 2016 for MAC can't recall emails. I know Outlook 2013 and 2016 for Windows have that feature.
     
  25. entropyfl macrumors 6502

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    Ha thats a bit of a stretch! Mac mail is fine for basic emails to other Mac users who are the minority. When you have to email windows users Mac mail sends out different attachments with nothing in them.

    Its very annoying.
     

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