Why are people in here so mean?

[MinEderPlayz]

I could not agree with you more. It seems a lot of iPhone users that post on here have this "I better than you" attitude. As I new member I am sure it can be hard. I have had my share of arguments on here, but in the end I learned it does no good. I just except when I am on here there will always be at least one poster that has a chip on their shoulder, or just out to say the complete opposite of you.

I guess I'll have to admit I became one of those today, but only because I was really upset about everything I heard on MR so far. Some people say the iPhone 6 is "superior" to the 6 Plus, others say "the courageous get the 6" as opposed to those who don't dare to exchange their 6 Plus which, in their opinion, "can't be a good choice for anyone". This kind of sucks from a 6 Plus owner's perspective especially since my phone is in no way inferior, I am not less courageous than that dude and the phone was indeed a good choice for me. So, today, I took all this and threw it back at the 6 owners in a just as immature way. I know it's childish, and I know no rectification will make this up, but I can't take all the "I'm better than Plus owners" just because those people need to feel better about themselves. Just as much, I will now begin to refer to the iPhone 6 as iPhone 6 Minus. Childish, yes, but there is a saying in German, I don't know if there is an English equivalent, it kinda goes like "The echo you hear equals the sound you made" (something with a forest but that's about the point of it). So if this forum is immature and full of hate, Life Among The Gorillas taught us to be immature and full of hate.

 

[S.B.G]

As mentioned earlier, I believe that the primary reason for the poor behavior of people, not only here on MacRumors, but the Internet as a whole, stems, primarily, from the fact of online anonymity.

People are less afraid to say things online than they are in real life, directly to someone. Some people will say the same things in real life as they will online, whether good or bad. But I think the anonymity clause leans heavily in the favor of being of two personalities in most online discussions.

I am one of the people who are the same online as I am in real life. I am me, and I don't change that. If you were to meet me in person, I'd be just like you'd expect me to be as you've come to know me online here.

I feel its an absolute tragedy that some choose to be a more mean and spiteful person online because they have the advantage of anonymity. If someone is mean online and in real life, for shame. I don't understand, nor do I wish to know, why some people choose to be mean, trollish and overly spiteful towards others.

The kicker here is that the most caustic forum on MacRumors is the iPhone forum. Why do people rage on and insult and troll others over a choice in a phone? It's just a phone, a device, a small computer. I have an iPhone because I like it. I have friends who use Android phones and they're happy with it. I don't get down on them for their choice and they don't get down on me for mine. Get what you like and respect others choices.

I think a lot of people don't understand the differences in opinions and facts a lot of times and then rant against others who display an opinion, thinking they meant it as a fact. There is too much subjectivity in reading and writing of posts. I do my best to look at posts, and real life situations, as objectively as I can. Since I made a conscience choice to do that, my life has been improved dramatically and I find myself not angry, less stressed and more happy.

Objectivity, to me, is a way of looking at things, situations, not just from my point of view, but from others as well. Being able to see something from their point of view helps me understand how or why something is, or why a person chose differently from me. That helps me better accept things, whether I would have agreed with, done or picked that thing or not.

 

[LostSoul80]

You do realize that you could have used one of the existing threads about this, right?

 

[chown33]

I guess I'll have to admit I became one of those today, but only because I was really upset about everything I heard on MR so far. Some people say the iPhone 6 is "superior" to the 6 Plus, others say "the courageous get the 6" as opposed to those who don't dare to exchange their 6 Plus which, in their opinion, "can't be a good choice for anyone". This kind of sucks from a 6 Plus owner's perspective especially since my phone is in no way inferior, I am not less courageous than that dude and the phone was indeed a good choice for me. So, today, I took all this and threw it back at the 6 owners in a just as immature way. I know it's childish, and I know no rectification will make this up, but I can't take all the "I'm better than Plus owners" just because those people need to feel better about themselves. Just as much, I will now begin to refer to the iPhone 6 as iPhone 6 Minus. Childish, yes, but there is a saying in German, I don't know if there is an English equivalent, it kinda goes like "The echo you hear equals the sound you made" (something with a forest but that's about the point of it). So if this forum is immature and full of hate, Life Among The Gorillas taught us to be immature and full of hate.

"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent."
-- Eleanor Roosevelt

The solution isn't to try making them feel inferior in return, it's to stop consenting.
In short, confidence, not retaliation.

 

[C DM]

I guess I'll have to admit I became one of those today, but only because I was really upset about everything I heard on MR so far. Some people say the iPhone 6 is "superior" to the 6 Plus, others say "the courageous get the 6" as opposed to those who don't dare to exchange their 6 Plus which, in their opinion, "can't be a good choice for anyone". This kind of sucks from a 6 Plus owner's perspective especially since my phone is in no way inferior, I am not less courageous than that dude and the phone was indeed a good choice for me. So, today, I took all this and threw it back at the 6 owners in a just as immature way. I know it's childish, and I know no rectification will make this up, but I can't take all the "I'm better than Plus owners" just because those people need to feel better about themselves. Just as much, I will now begin to refer to the iPhone 6 as iPhone 6 Minus. Childish, yes, but there is a saying in German, I don't know if there is an English equivalent, it kinda goes like "The echo you hear equals the sound you made" (something with a forest but that's about the point of it). So if this forum is immature and full of hate, Life Among The Gorillas taught us to be immature and full of hate.

People sure do seem to care about the opinion of others when it comes to the most inconsequential and unimportant things and then take them personally somehow on top of it all.

 

[grandM]

I've been lurking on the forums for quite some time, but only recently signed up to join in the excitement of the iPhone 6 discussion. I've been frequenting multiple times a day for the last 3 or so weeks.

I can't speak to the other forums on MacRumors, but it seems that many people in here are downright mean. Some of the posts I've read in response to others' questions are unbelievably sarcastic and penurious. Among the handful of other forums that I peruse, I've never encountered such disdain for new members or those that may not have as much knowledge of the topics being discussed.

Most people come here to learn and share knowledge. The amount of things I've learned since becoming an active member is tremendous. The unfortunate part is that I haven't felt welcome to post my own threads or respond to others' threads because the number of times I've seen someone get completely flamed is off-putting. Some of the drama and immaturity feels like high school all over again.

The very people that I'm referencing in this post are going to show up in this thread and do just that: flame me. Save your breath because I won't engage with you. I wanted to acknowledge the crap that goes down in here, my viewpoint as a "new" member, and hopefully help people realize what kind of atmosphere is getting fostered. I'm not looking for World War III and I'm not going to hide in a corner, I plan to frequent the forums in the same manner that I've been doing. I'm also no angel, I've had my days where I want to flame everyone/everything in sight. It happens, but in here it seems to happen A LOT. The takeaway message here is: lighten up, peeps. Life is good as an iPhone owner.

Mods: You all do a great job. Sorry for the rant. Do what you will with this thread, but I hope it's semi-enlightening for the active iPhone forum population.

Well, you know that some mac boys see as a divine intervention. Overall the regulars really try to help out and some noobs will become regulars. Feel free to drop by. You are totally welcome and we are glad to have you. Bring a drink next time though

 

[ucfgrad93]

This forum is actually well-behaved when you compare it to others like Engadget, BGR, etc. I think the moderators here do a pretty good job keeping things civil.

 

[richwoodrocket]

Macrumors is actually pretty civil compared to some other forums.

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You do realize that you could have used one of the existing threads about this, right?

lol

 

[Traverse]

I've actually found this to be a friendly forum that is willing to help you.

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This forum is actually well-behaved when you compare it to others like Engadget, BGR, etc. I think the moderators here do a pretty good job keeping things civil.

And getting rid of spam posts. I've reported that twice and it was corrected within an hour. This is a very clean forum compared to many and the only one I ever joined.

 

[Apple_Robert]

"Vivian: I don't like your manners.
Marlowe: And I'm not crazy about yours. I didn't ask to see you. I don't mind if you don't like my manners, I don't like them myself. They are pretty bad. I grieve over them on long winter evenings. I don't mind your ritzing me, or drinking your lunch out of a bottle. But, don't waste your time trying to cross-examine me."

The Big Sleep (1946)

 

[iososx]

Apple is a big ego company, the culture of superiority baked in and further enhanced by Steve Jobs, world's best salesman. Master of power control and influencing people to let him think for them, it's all in the fabric of Apple. That's what sets them apart. It's been a very successful way for them to do business.

 

[iUser.]

because it's easier to be mean online unfortunately. but these "mean members" aren't stupid, they wouldn't dare to repeat some of the bs they say on here to someone in real life because most likely they'll get punched in the mouth.

 

[rei101]

I've been lurking on the forums for quite some time, but only recently signed up to join in the excitement of the iPhone 6 discussion. I've been frequenting multiple times a day for the last 3 or so weeks.

I can't speak to the other forums on MacRumors, but it seems that many people in here are downright mean. Some of the posts I've read in response to others' questions are unbelievably sarcastic and penurious. Among the handful of other forums that I peruse, I've never encountered such disdain for new members or those that may not have as much knowledge of the topics being discussed.

Most people come here to learn and share knowledge. The amount of things I've learned since becoming an active member is tremendous. The unfortunate part is that I haven't felt welcome to post my own threads or respond to others' threads because the number of times I've seen someone get completely flamed is off-putting. Some of the drama and immaturity feels like high school all over again.

The very people that I'm referencing in this post are going to show up in this thread and do just that: flame me. Save your breath because I won't engage with you. I wanted to acknowledge the crap that goes down in here, my viewpoint as a "new" member, and hopefully help people realize what kind of atmosphere is getting fostered. I'm not looking for World War III and I'm not going to hide in a corner, I plan to frequent the forums in the same manner that I've been doing. I'm also no angel, I've had my days where I want to flame everyone/everything in sight. It happens, but in here it seems to happen A LOT. The takeaway message here is: lighten up, peeps. Life is good as an iPhone owner.

Mods: You all do a great job. Sorry for the rant. Do what you will with this thread, but I hope it's semi-enlightening for the active iPhone forum population.

Internet is not for socializing, is a data base to find and share information. Use it just for that.

 

[bunnspecial]

Although I'm pretty "plugged in" to the Apple ecosystem with an iPhone, iPad, and several Macs I primarily came here to get help with and learn about older Apple computers.

The main places I post and hang out are the PowerPC forum and the Apple Collectors forum, and I honestly can't say enough good things about the people who frequent there. Folks are very generous with their time in helping to troubleshoot problems as well as give detailed advice on upgrades(including what works and what doesn't). I've had folks send me parts to get me out of a tight spot, and have "payed it forward" a few times myself to help other out.

That's not to say that there aren't disagreements in those places, but they are almost always civil and well-reasoned. The only real issues are the occasional troll, who is usually recognized and either ignored or dealt with.

Reading some of the responses here, I'm glad that I don't stray out of the small areas where I feel "at home."

 

[tdale]

There are a few breeds here.

1. Trolls. Those Android users who have a need to spend their valuable time on an Apple forum. They do stick out like a sore thumb, so good for a laugh.

2. Those who cannot see the difference between an opinion and a fact.

3. Those of point two who get upset if someone disagrees with them, and become aggressive. And cannot let it go. We have all seen the posts of person A,B,A,B,A,B as they go for it.

4. The rest of us, the majority I feel, that can banter, ask, help, discuss opinions on stuff

 

[2984839]

Although I'm pretty "plugged in" to the Apple ecosystem with an iPhone, iPad, and several Macs I primarily came here to get help with and learn about older Apple computers.

The main places I post and hang out are the PowerPC forum and the Apple Collectors forum, and I honestly can't say enough good things about the people who frequent there. Folks are very generous with their time in helping to troubleshoot problems as well as give detailed advice on upgrades(including what works and what doesn't). I've had folks send me parts to get me out of a tight spot, and have "payed it forward" a few times myself to help other out.

That's not to say that there aren't disagreements in those places, but they are almost always civil and well-reasoned. The only real issues are the occasional troll, who is usually recognized and either ignored or dealt with.

Reading some of the responses here, I'm glad that I don't stray out of the small areas where I feel "at home."

Definitely agree with you here. The PowerPC forum is the best subforum on this site IMHO.

 

[Meister]

Definitely agree with you here. The PowerPC forum is the best subforum on this site IMHO.

I like the photography sub forum.
The iPhone forum is rather unpleasant.

The PRS forum is hilarious!

The internet is not real. That's why it's called virtual reality.

If you have a serious question then someone will likely give a usefull reply.
Everything else is just entertainment, because it is not real and for mere passtime.

I also might highly recommend the dpreview forums. It's photography geeks having furious arguments about pixelpeeping and algorithms used in sensor noise testing. The stuff they argue about is complete gibberish to anyone except fellow photo geeks and has no reallife impact on camera performance. It's hysterical!

 

[Arran]

Internet is not for socializing, is a data base to find and share information. Use it just for that.

Isn't that what socializing is when you boil it down? Facebook?

 

[Kissaragi]

Rude threads or posts deserve a rude reply but you do see an awful lot of innocent and politely asked questions answered in a nasty and patronising way unfortunatly.

Some sub forums seem to be worse than others too.

 

[S.B.G]

Rude threads or posts deserve a rude reply..

What happened to two wrongs don't make a right?

 

[Arran]

Rude threads or posts deserve a rude reply...

I try to ignore them. I often think the "rude reply" is what's being fished for.

 

[2984839]

Rude threads or posts deserve a rude reply but you do see an awful lot of innocent and politely asked questions answered in a nasty and patronising way unfortunatly.

Some sub forums seem to be worse than others too.

No, that's what makes threads devolve into a 4th grade recess shouting match and makes the site worse. Just ignore them and move on.

 

[Kissaragi]

What happened to two wrongs don't make a right?

Its not "two wrongs". Its pointing out how ridiculous something is and challenging them as the horrible people they seem to be. Im not talking about name calling or 4th grade antics. Some people simply deserve to be reminded there are others that will stand up to them in cases that don't otherwise warrant moderation. I would do the same in real life as well.

I try to ignore them. I often think the "rude reply" is what's being fished for.

You are right in a lot of cases but sometimes something needs to be said. I tend to block them afterwards.

 

[chabig]

There are a few breeds here.

1. Trolls. Those Android users who have a need to spend their valuable time on an Apple forum. They do stick out like a sore thumb, so good for a laugh.

2. Those who cannot see the difference between an opinion and a fact.

3. Those of point two who get upset if someone disagrees with them, and become aggressive. And cannot let it go. We have all seen the posts of person A,B,A,B,A,B as they go for it.

4. The rest of us, the majority I feel, that can banter, ask, help, discuss opinions on stuff

5. Those who start hundreds of pointless threads like, "What are the odds the next unannounced product will have feature 'X', or "Anyone else think...", or "What would you change about...".

Those threads don't help anyone, don't answer technical questions, and just waste our time.

 

[S.B.G]

Its not "two wrongs". Its pointing out how ridiculous something is and challenging them as the horrible people they seem to be. Im not talking about name calling or 4th grade antics. Some people simply deserve to be reminded there are others that will stand up to them in cases that don't otherwise warrant moderation. I would do the same in real life as well.

So are you clarifying what you wrote earlier and saying that there is a difference in replying to a rude person by challenging their position as opposed to replying to a rude person with more rude comments?

Rude threads or posts deserve a rude reply