Why are people so sure of an iMac refresh in a month?

Dykstra

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The late 2012 iMac was released 172 days ago. People were literally just getting them in February after ordering at launch. Do you actually think 4 months after the majority of people get it that they'll release the newer model?
 

Mr. Dee

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Yes, they will. It would be weird to have an updated line (MacBooks) while have an outdated line of desktops. Besides, the processors will be available for desktops and laptops, its not costing them anything to update them to the latest available processors.

The reason why the new model iMac took so long is because of the new design and manufacturing process. The yields are now stable, so the only thing they need to do is update the components: CPU, GPU and Wireless (801.11ac)
 

Crazy82

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The late 2012 iMac was released 172 days ago. People were literally just getting them in February after ordering at launch. Do you actually think 4 months after the majority of people get it that they'll release the newer model?
Noone is sure of an update of iMac next month it is just guesses. Frankly I don't think it will be an update for at least 4 monthes.
 

PJM82

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Noone is sure of an update of iMac next month it is just guesses. Frankly I don't think it will be an update for at least 4 monthes.
I'd go with this. I suspect Apple will stager the launches to avoid constraints in the supply/retail chain etc. I'd expect only to see a refreshed Macbook Air range (maybe retina airs?) and the return (to Europe anyway) of the Mac Pro. Everything else is probably far later in the year if not next year.
 

Jugney

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The last iMac refresh was months after the Intel processors update. But there is a difference between a design update (what I would call a refresh, the word you choose), and a processor update. The design is brand new, so that's not likely to change this year. I agree with the others here that even a processor bump is unlikely for WWDC. Though I suppose they did update the rMBP processors just a few months after releasing the 13" model.
 

Tankmaze

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probably in 9 months time after december 2012, the imac would bump to haswell.

doubt it will happen in wwdc, as apple would focus on the mbp & mba.
 

chuckiehina

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The late 2012 iMac was released 172 days ago. People were literally just getting them in February after ordering at launch. Do you actually think 4 months after the majority of people get it that they'll release the newer model?
I suspect the reason is that those people are just looking for an excuse to NOT buy an iMac now. It does not seem to be a rationale excuse, but it is still an excuse.
 

jmhart

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I only recall seeing one rumor of a June iMac refresh, but I don't think anybody really latched onto that date. Most of us who do believe there will be a 2013 refresh think it'll happen around Sept/Oct.

I don't think for a minute their shortages and late shipments will affect the new release time frame which is why I decided early on to hold off buying until this coming fall. I don't use my Macs for any time critical or business applications, so there's no reason for me not to hold off until the timing and buying cycle is ideal--and the 2012 iMac release cycle was FAR from ideal. ;)

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I suspect the reason is that those people are just looking for an excuse to NOT buy an iMac now. It does not seem to be a rationale excuse, but it is still an excuse.
Anybody would be wise to look for any excuse not to buy now when it comes to technology. You buy when you need to and not before or you're likely spending more than you need to for hardware that's soon to be outdated and discounted.
 

iSayuSay

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Yes, they will. It would be weird to have an updated line (MacBooks) while have an outdated line of desktops. Besides, the processors will be available for desktops and laptops, its not costing them anything to update them to the latest available processors.

The reason why the new model iMac took so long is because of the new design and manufacturing process. The yields are now stable, so the only thing they need to do is update the components: CPU, GPU and Wireless (801.11ac)
It happened actually .. When Macbook Pro was updated to Ivy Bridge and 15" retina, the iMac is still Sandy Bridge.

No matter what you say, desktop computers like iMac, more over MacPro tend to be updated in a slower pace than their laptops.
 

mrmarts

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What does it matter apple always refreshes their machines about twice a year , what matters you own the latest and greatest iMac. I'am still using a late 2009 model although I am trying to sell it, it is still working great for surfing the net, watching iTunes movies etc to get me by whenever somebody forks the cash for it.
 

richard13

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The late 2012 iMac was released 172 days ago. People were literally just getting them in February after ordering at launch. Do you actually think 4 months after the majority of people get it that they'll release the newer model?
This is the first I'm hearing of a rumored refresh of the iMac next month. But now that you've brought it to my attention, yea, I would welcome the move if it included 802.11ac and maybe a bump in graphics.

The fact that some people didn't get their orders for the late 2012 iMac until February is irrelevant. The current model will be over 6 months old by June. If newer technology is available Apple should incorporate it into it's products regardless of when the last refresh was.
 

Yebubbleman

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The late 2012 iMac was released 172 days ago. People were literally just getting them in February after ordering at launch. Do you actually think 4 months after the majority of people get it that they'll release the newer model?
First off, there's only a buzz about it because there was that article about that WiFi card (that could just as easily be in a Haswell Retina and/or a Haswell Air in addition to an eventual Haswell iMac; they have had multiple generations that use the same model of WiFi board.


Yes, they will. It would be weird to have an updated line (MacBooks) while have an outdated line of desktops. Besides, the processors will be available for desktops and laptops, its not costing them anything to update them to the latest available processors.

The reason why the new model iMac took so long is because of the new design and manufacturing process. The yields are now stable, so the only thing they need to do is update the components: CPU, GPU and Wireless (801.11ac)
Man, you clearly do not know what you are talking about. Apple, multiple generations in a row now has updated the iMac months after updating the MacBook Pro models. It has been a consistent occurrence since 2007.
 

Scrapula

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iMac sales are flat due to low desktop demand overall. If anything, the Mac Pro will get updated. I don't see the iMac getting a refresh just yet.
 

Crazy82

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Another reason the iMac won't get a refresh at the WWDC is it just will be a refresh not a design update and usally refreshes is quiet on the apple store except for the Ios devices.
 

Zandros

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Another reason the iMac won't get a refresh at the WWDC is it just will be a refresh not a design update and usally refreshes is quiet on the apple store except for the Ios devices.
Unless they are close enough to coincide with an event that is taking place anyway. Like last years dubdub, when the Macbooks Air and Pro got a refresh and were mentioned on stage. And the Mac mini refresh was mentioned, albeit in passing, at the October Special Event.

There have been times where refreshes have been made in conjunction with an event and not mentioned too.

So I don't think the causal chain event thus no iMac refresh is true.

Not that I think there will be an iMac refresh at dubdub, if anything it'll be laptops.
 
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GoCubsGo

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The late 2012 iMac was released 172 days ago. People were literally just getting them in February after ordering at launch. Do you actually think 4 months after the majority of people get it that they'll release the newer model?
Nope. Seems outlandish.
 

karpich1

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News to me

News to me.

People are guessing at some iteration of the MacBooks (Pro and Air) since things are lining up... Haswell, long period since non-Retina updates, etc.

And some are thinking Mini since they're starting to get close. But I think the chances here are slim since they'd put mobile updates in the older laptops first. Though with Haswell they're hoping for a better integrated GPU.


But iMacs? Really? I haven't read too many posts asking / suggesting that. It hasn't been very long since the last refresh... and heck knock off maybe a month from THAT since they weren't exactly ready to ship when they were supposed to.
 

tomwvr

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I do not see the Haswell Chip since it is mainly a laptop chip, ever being in the IMAC I see a new processor for the Imac when Broadwell comes out in 2014.

But I am just guessing from the history of Desktops and all in ones that have been made by apple in the last few cycles (IMAC PRO ext) have all been very long in the tooth when replaced.



Now you can say that there have been updates since the first new generation of Imac's came out - different SSD options.


I do not see a processor update, and they wont change the new external design for at least the next 2-3 years.
 

Zandros

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I do not see the Haswell Chip since it is mainly a laptop chip, ever being in the IMAC I see a new processor for the Imac when Broadwell comes out in 2014.
I think that's backwards, from what I've heard (AnandTech/SemiAccurate), there won't be a desktop (socketed) Broadwell.
 

HenryDJP

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The late 2012 iMac was released 172 days ago. People were literally just getting them in February after ordering at launch. Do you actually think 4 months after the majority of people get it that they'll release the newer model?
I don't personally think they are going to release any new iMacs until 12 months goes by. Other than when Apple switched to Intel there's never been a time that they have released a new iMac in under 6 months from the current released one.
 

Bear

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The late 2012 iMac was released 172 days ago. People were literally just getting them in February after ordering at launch. Do you actually think 4 months after the majority of people get it that they'll release the newer model?
Why are people sure of it? Strong wishful thinking.

You actually never know what Apple will do based on how short the time was between the iPad 3 and iPad 4 and the iMac update could happen soon, however, I also think it will be more like the end of the year before we see an update to the iMacs.