Why are people still doing contract upgrades with AT&T?

iPhone7ate9

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So it's like 300-400$ on AT&T up front with contract right? Plus upgrade fee?

Why not do Next, -$25 per line discount (as long as you're on 10gb shared plan), no fees up front.
 

SnowLeopard2008

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nnacrumors

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So it's like 300-400$ on AT&T up front with contract right? Plus upgrade fee?

Why not do Next, -$25 per line discount (as long as you're on 10gb shared plan), no fees up front.
Because the plan you are forced onto (Family Share) when going with NEXT is dog****!

Lets see for me shall we?

Current Plan:
$50/mo for 550 min (w/ 15% employer discount)
$10/mo for 2nd line
$30/mo for unlimited data on line #1 (w/ 15% employer discount)
$30/mo for unlimited data on line #2 (w/ 15% employer discount)
$10/mo for phone upgrade ($200) plus upgrade fee ($40) on line #1 averaged over 24 months
$10/mo for phone upgrade ($200) plus upgrade fee ($40) on line #2 averaged over 24 months

Total cost per month = $124 after discount

Try getting even near that monthly cost while on At&t NEXT :rolleyes:

Family Share Plan:
$100/mo for 10GB (w/ 15% employer discount)
$15/mo for line 1
$15/mo for line 2
$27/mo for phone #1
$27/mo for phone #2

Total cost per month = $169 after discount :vomit:

P.S. no one in my house gives a damn about being forced to pay $45/mo extra for unlimited texting (iMessage or Google Voice) or unlimited minutes (Att Rollover or Google Hangouts) on the family share plan.
 
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SnowLeopard2008

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Because the plan you are forced onto when going with NEXT is dog****!

Lets see for me shall we?
$50 for 550 min (w/ 15% employer discount)
$10 for 2nd line
$30 for unlimited data on line #1 (w/ 15% employer discount)
$30 for unlimited data on line #2 (w/ 15% employer discount)

Total cost per month = $104

Try getting even near that monthly cost while on At&t NEXT :rolleyes:

P.S. no one in my house gives a damn about unlimited texting or minutes.
This. I'm on the FamilyTalk 550 with rollover plan with my parents. We currently have ~5000 minutes rollover. We're about half or so into the bill cycle and we have only used <100 of those 550. So the point is no one really talks on the phone.

Texting? Pretty much same deal.
 

cableguy619

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Why are people still doing contract upgrades with AT&T?

I used to pay 340 a month on 2 yr 5 devices

8160 over 2 yrs that's a lot
Plus price of phone say 299.99 and 40 for activation.

I went to next and went to 165 a month. Now 6 devices I pay roughly 250 a month(2 on next)

Now 3960 over 24 months.

So now adding plus on next add another 35x24=840
Plus tablet
35x24=840

On 2 yr all included 8500

On next 5640 with 6 devices.

For me next works out just fine.
 

dkh587

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I don't want to pay full price for the phone

I am okay with a contract, because I am happy with my service, so I'm not going anywhere

An upgrade every two years is okay with me.

Oh yeah, I usually call AT&T and have them waive the upgrade fee for me :)
 

mightyjabba

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Yeah, my family has 5 iPhones with a plan that they don't offer anymore (including two that still have unlimited data). They don't make it easy to understand all the ins and outs of these plans, so I'm still not totally sure but it seems like we're better off sticking with our grandfathered plan and buying phones on contract than using NEXT. Plus, I am more than a little suspicious about why AT&T is so eager to get people to switch to NEXT.
 

minimac

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Same here. If you are grandfathered into one of these unlimited data plans it makes sense. I was considering switching to tmobile to save some money but after running the numbers it was still cheaper to sign another 2 yr contract w/ At&t to get the subsidy and stay with our 550 minute family plan with unlimited data (and employer discount).
 

SnowLeopard2008

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No why? I'm the one that chose to go on it, we're saving money now.
I will say this again in the hopes that you actually read and comprehend it this time. AT&T's Next plan works out to be cheaper FOR SOME PEOPLE. For me and my family, it's more expensive. For you, it's cheaper. For some people, it will be the same. Get it? It's not cheaper for every plan configuration. So people really do need to understand what is going on (it's downright confusing) and do some basic math and make sure it's cheaper for what they want/have before switching.
 

iPhone7ate9

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I will say this again in the hopes that you actually read and comprehend it this time. AT&T's Next plan works out to be cheaper FOR SOME PEOPLE. For me and my family, it's more expensive. For you, it's cheaper. For some people, it will be the same. Get it? It's not cheaper for every plan configuration. So people really do need to understand what is going on (it's downright confusing) and do some basic math and make sure it's cheaper for what they want/have before switching.
We extablished that like 10 posts ago.
 

jjp007

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Yeah, my family has 5 iPhones with a plan that they don't offer anymore (including two that still have unlimited data). They don't make it easy to understand all the ins and outs of these plans, so I'm still not totally sure but it seems like we're better off sticking with our grandfathered plan and buying phones on contract than using NEXT. Plus, I am more than a little suspicious about why AT&T is so eager to get people to switch to NEXT.
Exactly. Same for me. I have family sharing w my mom ..no smartphone. I have grandfathered unlimited data. I don't get the whole next details so I upgrade every year using my moms upgrade one year and mine the next. Works for me.
 

macher

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So it's like 300-400$ on AT&T up front with contract right? Plus upgrade fee?

Why not do Next, -$25 per line discount (as long as you're on 10gb shared plan), no fees up front.
The contract upgrade cost me $299 for a 64GB iPhone 6. We have a 4 line grandfathered family plan each with unlimited data. There is always a line eligible for full upgrade. So what I do is give my device to a line that's eligible for an upgrade and use their line which is eligible to upgrade at contract pricing if I want the latest and greatest.
 

Menel

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Because the on-contract plan is cheaper overall for some plan configurations. AT&T iPhone 6 subsidized/contract starts at $199 + $40 upgrade fee and 6 Plus at $299 + $40 upgrade fee.

http://www.cnet.com/news/why-at-ts-new-pricing-plans-are-only-a-bargain-for-some/

Why are people still FINANCING mobile phones with ATT?

($40 for 2gb + $40 smartphone + 12 taxes) *24mos = $2208
$299 iphone + $48 taxes + $40 upgrade fee = $387
Total $2595

Non contract without financing
35/mo 1gb (no overage risk) tax inc. * 24mo = $840
Iphone $750 + 48taxes = $798
Total 1638
 

LaynieGorilla

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For one, because of Apple gift cards and trade ins..I recieved my iPhone 6 64gb for thirty-six dollars. Second, the bill is cheaper and depending on when and if I want to get out the contract early.. The ETF is much cheaper than paying for the rest of the phone :)
 

SnowLeopard2008

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Why are people still FINANCING mobile phones with ATT?

($40 for 2gb + $40 smartphone + 12 taxes) *24mos = $2208
$299 iphone + $48 taxes + $40 upgrade fee = $387
Total $2595

Non contract without financing
35/mo 1gb (no overage risk) tax inc. * 24mo = $840
Iphone $750 + 48taxes = $798
Total 1638
It seems like nobody even bothers to open links and read/comprehend the content.

It depends on your plan configuration. Sometimes it's cheaper to sign a 2-year contract + pay $199 (assuming iPhone 6 not Plus) + $40 upgrade fee. Other times it's cheaper to buy using Next. And so on.
 

b1scu1t

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There are quite a few people who find the shared value plan works best especially if there are multiple smart phones in the account. If on the mobile share plan, ATT Next works out better.

The unlimited talk/text is a useless upgrade for a lot of people, especially in light of iMessage/Whatsapp etc.. This is basically like the cable companies bundling a lot channels and give you a big fat bill. The mobile operators saw the writing on the wall and they just want you to pay for data. Keep in mind these guys still make a LOT of $. The cost of mobile services in this country is a rip off compared to most other western/g-7 nations save for Canada possibly.

I personally prefer to really pay for what I use and no more. I don't use much talk/text. Everybody in my family is on ATT so there is no charge in calling. Occasionally I send and receive texts and I pay as you go with it.
 

Hal~9000

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Why are people still FINANCING phones through AT&T?

Non contract without financing
35/mo 1gb (no overage risk) tax inc. * 24mo = $840
Iphone $750 + 48taxes = $798
Total 1638
I assume you are talking about Cricket wireless so it would cost $35 per month for 1gb plan and $27 per month for the cheapest current generation iPhone.

Not bad for being contract free, if taxes and fees really are included in the $35 price? Surprised more people aren't going this route. It's probably because of the upfront cost of the phone and how a lot of people would rather pay a little upfront but more over time?

One great thing about going this route is if you are the type to keep your phone longer than 2-years then you really start to pile on the savings over the 2-year contract people since you would only be paying $35 per month while they are still paying $70 per month or more, albeit with a newer phone than you.

One risk though with month-to-month prepaid is that they can raise the price at any time since you aren't in a contract. ATT has a history of honoring grandfathered postpaid plans so you know, for the most part, the cost won't increase.
 
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maflynn

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So it's like 300-400$ on AT&T up front with contract right? Plus upgrade fee?

Why not do Next, -$25 per line discount (as long as you're on 10gb shared plan), no fees up front.
I don't need a 10GB line so why spend money on that. I don't feel like having my bill go up by 27 dollars a month for 2 years to pay off the iPhone (I know the net is less then 27 but either way my bill goes up).

I'm happy with the subsidized plan, it works for me and that's what its all about isn't it? One size does not fit all. What may work for you, doesn't work for me.
 
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