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General Why are some new JB tweaks only iOS6+

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rak007

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I am using an iPhone 4S iOS 5.1.1
I went to download the NotesTweak and found out that it is only iOS 6 compatible.
Not complaining or anything but want to ask why some of the new tweaks are iOS 6 only ? I mean what might be restricting them to not work with iOS 5.1.1 ? Because iOS 5.1.1 was i believe one of the most stable versions of iOS before iOS 6 came by and almost all the tweaks are compatible with iOS 5.1.1
 
rak007 said:
I am using an iPhone 4S iOS 5.1.1
I went to download the NotesTweak and found out that it is only iOS 6 compatible.
Not complaining or anything but want to ask why some of the new tweaks are iOS 6 only ? I mean what might be restricting them to not work with iOS 5.1.1 ? Because iOS 5.1.1 was i believe one of the most stable versions of iOS before iOS 6 came by and almost all the tweaks are compatible with iOS 5.1.1
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Frameworks/routines that the developer is using probably changed in iOS 6. Beside that, I don't think there would be any reason for the developer to not support previous iOS versions.
 
Since the notes app in iOS 5 & 6 are different i'd venture a guess that the tweak would have to be completely redesigned to work with iOS 5.
 
Brian Y said:
Software wise, latest !always= best.
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Software-wise, usually this is true. Firmware-wise which is what iOS is, not specifically considered "software" the way you are using in context.

With iOS, each update of firmware yields potential benefits (notice how I said potential) as well as security patches galore. (which also includes patches against beneficial hacks as well.)

I am also running iOS 5.1.1 because there are some really cool exploits which have been patched over (never to be exploited again) on all later versions.

If this makes little sense to you, you'll learn the hard way. Update you knowledge of what firmware is all about...

P.S. about upgrading. If you are lucky like me you can use your SHSH Blobs (which I still have saved) to update and downgrade to any iOS 5.x-6.x :p
 
Two minutes too many. You just use cydia to save them with each update. You don't even need to upgrade the firmware as you can only save them per latest version. For me I saved mine at 5.1.1 and then again at 6.1.3 (I dont care about the in between versions).

Takes literally 6 seconds to go in and save them. Why Cydia cant just do this automatically for forgetful people IDK!
 
Mdkcheatz said:
Software-wise, usually this is true. Firmware-wise which is what iOS is, not specifically considered "software" the way you are using in context.

With iOS, each update of firmware yields potential benefits (notice how I said potential) as well as security patches galore. (which also includes patches against beneficial hacks as well.)

I am also running iOS 5.1.1 because there are some really cool exploits which have been patched over (never to be exploited again) on all later versions.

If this makes little sense to you, you'll learn the hard way. Update you knowledge of what firmware is all about...

P.S. about upgrading. If you are lucky like me you can use your SHSH Blobs (which I still have saved) to update and downgrade to any iOS 5.x-6.x :p
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You replied to a 3 month old thread to be patronising?

You need to learn the difference between firmware and software mate - not me.
 
Brian Y said:
You replied to a 3 month old thread to be patronising?

You need to learn the difference between firmware and software mate - not me.
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3 months, 2 years, 1 day... A thread containing misleading information is still misleading. You seemed to have missed the point of a forum system. Information posted is open to reveal when it is sought. (hence the purpose of the search tool)

Now since you felt ambitious enough to defend your territory, let me scrutinize your accusations. Firstly, you feeling like I patronized you is merely the assumption that I was trying to belittle you (perhaps to make myself seem better). You know what they say about assumptions :p

Now while I made my point, I can still remain on topic. So bringing up my point to debunk yours about "later = better," this kind of statement is purely an opinion that seems to have held true with your needs and purposes. However, myself having experienced negative side effects to later versions of software (more specifically firmware and other operating system components) know that in many situations, your statement is not always the case.

Again Bryan, this is not meant to demote your credibility here and I'm sorry you felt that way to begin with.
 
Mdkcheatz said:
3 months, 2 years, 1 day... A thread containing misleading information is still misleading. You seemed to have missed the point of a forum system. Information posted is open to reveal when it is sought. (hence the purpose of the search tool)

Now since you felt ambitious enough to defend your territory, let me scrutinize your accusations. Firstly, you feeling like I patronized you is merely the assumption that I was trying to belittle you (perhaps to make myself seem better). You know what they say about assumptions :p

Now while I made my point, I can still remain on topic. So bringing up my point to debunk yours about "later = better," this kind of statement is purely an opinion that seems to have held true with your needs and purposes. However, myself having experienced negative side effects to later versions of software (more specifically firmware and other operating system components) know that in many situations, your statement is not always the case.

Again Bryan, this is not meant to demote your credibility here and I'm sorry you felt that way to begin with.
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Then, if you re-read my statement which you so eloquently backed, you will see the !. I said "! later = better". In the programming world, that means "not later = better". ! means not - i.e. a negation.
 
Mdkcheatz said:
Takes literally 6 seconds to go in and save them. Why Cydia cant just do this automatically for forgetful people IDK!
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If you read Saurick's documentation on the subject, you'll see how Cydia does this. The Cydia servers used to automatically save the SHSH blobs. But around the time of iOS 4.1, Apple blocked that IP address. Hence why you can't restore to the current firmware version through Cydia's servers. Saurick changed how it worked so that the Cydia app on the iDevice ran the query. This distributed the requests to make Apple's blocking ineffective. If the end user never open Cydia while Apple was signing the firmware, Cydia won't have that version's SHSH blobs. With iOS 6.0-6.1.2, the Cydia app didn't get the complete SHSH blob, making them useless for all devices. In summation, Cydia does still get them automatically, it just needs to be launched once in a while.
 
Brian Y said:
Then, if you re-read my statement which you so eloquently backed, you will see the !. I said "! later = better". In the programming world, that means "not later = better". ! means not - i.e. a negation.
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You're right. I completely missed that-just flew way over my head.

Ultimate Facepalm to me for having argued the same point you made.

And maybe just a regular facepalm to you for taking so long to pull me up on the fact that I was basically arguing a point you were making too.

PS, as you can see I misspelled your name earlier. I'm clearly too rushed to always catch every bit of detail.

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Intell,

Thanks for the update, I do not closely follow Cydia technicalities but this has explained a couple of things.
 
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