Hello guys! We need your vision for this thread: http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/ed...s-mobile-apps-falling-behind-iphone-ones.html My nickname there is Speereo. 2 Moderators: Please do not treat this post like promotional. We just have common question Please do not post stuff like "MS sux" or "iThings rule" We need your vision IMO, but you have to have the vision to take part in the discussion. OK? You can post here and I will quote most interesting thoughts. OR you can post there, but please be polite To the subject Let me quote The Mailman: Editorial: Are we being left behind by the developers? Windows Mobile in its various forms has been around now for over 6 years and in its latest format of WM6 and WM6.1 is an OS capable of good and capable graphics. So, why are the majority of the applications still supplying outdated , text and list based programs whereas those for the iPhone are super smooth graphical finger and touch friendly. I accept for the Smartphone the text/list option may be the way to go but for the Professional (i.e. touch screen) versions there is no excuse. It just seems to me that they have jumped on the euphoric iPhone bandwagon and in doing so had to swallow Apple's rules and regulations regarding how and what they can sell as well as where they can sell it that they would never had accepted if Microsoft had required it. So what do I mean. Well the best way of describing my point is with actual applications: PocketInformant by WebIS is probably one of the most powerful Personal Management Systems available. And to see how cool and graphical it can be browse over to Welcome to WebIS.net - Pocket Informant iPhone. Admitedly , its not available yet but just look at the proposed screens with their easy touch tick boxes and the "jump to date" scroll. It will certainly put the latest PPC version to shame. Ilium software are no better with their up and coming Listpro shown here ListPro :: Ilium Software. Just showing what you can do with a totally list based application. They have also already released the iPhone version of eWallet which just looks so much cleaner and easier to use. So is anyone actually doing it right? No, although some are actually getting it, but then just taking that step too far (which I will explain later). So who are the people who are at least trying: SPB Software with their SPB Time / Online / Mobile Shell (and to a certain extent Pocket Plus). These are all superb applications that have an emphasis on graphics and touch friendly use. SPB have always been good on graphics though in the past these tended to be icons rather than true graphics. Before You Know It - a language tutor from Transparent Language is a perfect example of what an application can do and should do. Lots of good graphics and transitions. And finally Vito Technology the supreme model on which all other developers should look to show what is possible. Their iWindowsMobile suite has looked at iPhone and said "Yes I think we'll have some of that too!". Full finger & touch friendly navigation and usage alongside good looking graphics (which look similar to their sole iPhone product). next generation windows mobile software So why do I say no-one is providing us with the sort of applications coming out for the iPhone. Well in general they, with a few exceptions, are not even trying and when they do they just take it that one step too far. They all go "Full Screen". I don't want full screen - I want my task bar at the bottom and my start bar and button at the top. WM is a multi-tasking OS; I can run one app, switch to another and then return as I want. It's not an iPhone, which can do ONE task really fast and well, but which I have to close to do another. Provide us with a "full screen" option for when we want it, but make it our choice not the default, which then requires 1/2 a dozen taps to get out of. Anyway thats my pennies worth. Been annoying me for a while now and its good to get it out. Does any one else agree with me or am I just on my own here? I actually use the following software; * WebIS PocketInformant / Flexmail * Ilium ListPro / Newsbreak * SPB PocketPlus * BYKI * Vito FunContact / SMS-Chat All of which I think are great programs that I could not live without. Links to the various sites have been provided so you can look at examples rather than embedded for copyright reasons. These comments are my own personal views.