None of this throttling went into effect in iOS 11, it was already in effect since 10.2 for some phones and since 11.2 for some additional ones, but nothing new in relation to that with iOS 11.0.
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iPhone X Why buy X or 8 when it will slow down by 60% like 7?
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If iPhones become "unusably" slow in less than a year, why are so many people still happily using iPhones?
I'm not trying to defend Apple or deny what they themselves have admitted to, but if it was really such a big deal, people wouldn't have had to be told that their phones are "crippled".
I'm not trying to defend Apple or deny what they themselves have admitted to, but if it was really such a big deal, people wouldn't have had to be told that their phones are "crippled".
I bought my iPhone 6+ 3 years ago for developing purposes, as a test unit. 95% of the time is plugged in to my MacBook Pro, the condition of the battery is at 85% after 3 years, since iOS 11 that phone has been performing poorly. This phone has been used as a test unit most of the time.
This, in a nutshell.
A simple toast notification in iOS that 'battery wear may result in reduced performance' would have been more than enough.
Unfortunately it's possible Apple didn't implement this because, as suspected, Apple would rather have customers buy a newer iPhone instead of opting for a cheaper battery replacement.
This is the crux of the whole issue. Whether or not Apple intentionally did this is what all the lawsuits are about.
All that said, the lack of transparency on Apple's part is understandably disturbing.
Facts?
What is more factual than updating your phone then from that minute experiencing permanent slowdown regardless of resetting the phone and turning almost all features off. My phone went 2 years without issue, im not apple fanboy but until that day i was impressed with the performance.
Why are people so strongly defending something that they have been lucky to not experience?
Now that I remember there was an app that used to give all that information about sensors, then stop given those details and became useless.
nia820
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How would the phone randomly shut down? The battery wouldn't last as long but how would it shut off randomly?
The stories are that the
Not one single software update separately or together has brought any pro’s that outweighs the cons of throttling. So fine with me on Android instead.
Wrong argument. While batteries degrade, the purpose is normally to drive the processor at full speed though at shorter and shorter battery life over time.
Excuse me, but people defending here is to me proof that people want to be cheated.
Not one single software update separately or together has brought any pro’s that outweighs the cons of throttling. So fine with me on Android instead.
Wrong argument. While batteries degrade, the purpose is normally to drive the processor at full speed though at shorter and shorter battery life over time.
Excuse me, but people defending here is to me proof that people want to be cheated.
In my family, I bought the iPhone X because I need it for work, I'm a developer, I have to have that phone because of the new screen size dimensions, but my brothers they bought new phones because their iPhones were slow, at least that what they said, but this time they bought the pixel 2 after many years of being in the apple eco system.
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newellj
macrumors G3
There's an interesting technical discussion that I'll try to find the link for and post here. Basically, phones go from more or less asleep to 100% in an instant, and they do this many times a day. It is extremely stressful to the battery. A battery that's not in great shape can stagger under that load spike and the phone can shut down. By slow the SoC (CPU) down for a couple of cycles, Apple can avoid that load spike and keep the phone running.
I'm not taking a position on whether this was the best fix, and I'm not taking a position on whether it should have been disclosed, that's just the technical point in a small nutshell.
As in you are using the phone with plenty of battery remaining and it just shuts off. Or you reach for your phone and find that it's off.
Shinigami301
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One form of random shutdown I experienced with my iPhone 6+ (which ended up being part of Apple's free battery replacement program) was having 70% charge showing, recording a video and having it totally shut down 2 minutes in the midst of recording (something rather important at the time) with no warning- showing 3% power after a reboot.
AlphaGuitarist
macrumors 65816
I experienced similar random shutdowns when I had the iPhone 6, except it would display the lightning cable icon and wouldn't reboot until I plugged the phone into a power source. I took advantage of the $300 trade in deal that Apple had at the time and got a 6s Plus.
Many are buying a new phone and those who don’t put up with the slow speed. At least many of the ones I know. But they hate their phones speed now and complain about it. At the same time, they can’t afford an X and of course won’t accept iPhone 8 as the design is outdated.
boltjames
macrumors 601
My iPhone 6 was running just fine with a 3 years and 3 months old battery and iOS 11 before I upgraded to the X.
Not everyone was affected. And looking at how this isn’t being discussed much in the mainstream media after its one week news cycle blip, looks like it didn’t affect that many others either.
ericgtr12
macrumors 68000
It's actually being discussed everywhere in the main stream media, even on local news stations. Apple is also facing multiple lawsuits and noticeable public backlash.
boltjames
macrumors 601
Nah. Just like Antennagate, much ado about nothing. Apple explains the situation logically, knocks $50 off the cost of a battery replacement that less than 10% of users will ever take advantage of, done.
Lawsuits. LOL.
newellj
macrumors G3
I'm guessing you're wrong. Nearly every state Attorney General is politically ambitious, and issuing press releases and holding news conferences announcing that you've sued a big bad tech company for consumer fraud is a very popular way for AGs to build their political profile on their way to higher office. I think you will see 20-30 state AG offices jump on this after the new year when people are back in the regular news cycle.
ultravegeta1981
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nia820
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What you are talking about are batteries that are like 3 years old. I can see an iPhone 5 or 6 having a battery that beat up. But why has iphone 7 been slowed down?
But if this is the case, why does Apple have repeat costumers? If people buy an iPhone and find that its performance is terrible in a year, how did the iPhone become one of the most popular consumer device on the planet? In fact, don’t iPhones and Apple products in general typically have a very high consumer satisfaction rating? It just doesn’t fit with this narrative.
It's not just batteries that are just truly old, but ones that have worn down to a point where high voltage draw from CPU at some peak usage might not be able to get that from the battery which can cause a shutdown when the battery can't keep up with that. iPhone 7 models haven't been slowed down aside from perhaps a few that might have had a lot of battery usage and worn down enough or perhaps had some batteries that weren't that good in some way and got degraded faster.
You should return it and buy an Android phone. You’ll have the comfort of knowing it doesn’t slow down, but will shut down randomly anyway. Then you can have fun finding an OEM battery replacement.