Why can't I find my local (user specific) library folder in Lion's Finder?

Discussion in 'Mac OS X Lion (10.7)' started by orvn, Jan 22, 2012.

  1. orvn macrumors 6502

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    Hey guys,

    I'm having trouble accessing some stuff that should be in my library folder.
    I can access my general library folder in ~/library but not my user specific one in ~/users/orun/ (orun is my username).

    I can navigate to it in unix
    cd /users/orun/library
    open .


    But it just isn't there in Finder.. what gives?
     
  2. GGJstudios, Jan 22, 2012
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    GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    To get to your /Library or ~/Library folder in Lion, launch Finder and click Go > Go to Folder and type: /Library or ~/Library

    You can also reach your ~/Library folder by holding the Option key while clicking the Go menu item, which reveals your ~/Library folder in the menu.
     
  3. grapes911 Moderator emeritus

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    Tilde (~) refers to your home directory. The slash (/) refers to root.


    /users/orun/library
    is the same as
    ~/library
     
  4. orvn thread starter macrumors 6502

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  5. Weaselboy Moderator

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    If you want, you can run the command below in Terminal and it will unhide the ~/Library folder. Then you can see it in a normal Finder window.

    Each time a point OS release comes out though it gets hidden again and you will need to run the command.

    Code:
    chflags nohidden ~/Library/
     
  6. maflynn Moderator

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    You can also use in the Finder
    Click the Go menu, then Go to Folder if you don't want to change the flags.
     
  7. jasonvp macrumors 6502a

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    It looks like you got some good advice here from the worthies, but the answer to the "what gives?" question is: For Lion, Apple decided they didn't want users mucking about in their Library directory with Finder. Apparently they felt it too risky for those that don't know what they're doing. Obviously you can still easily get to it via CLI; Apple probably figured that anyone poking around via CLI already knows what they're doing.

    In other words: protect the end users from themselves. For better, for worse...

    jas
     
  8. maflynn Moderator

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    My issue is that they took 7 versions of OSX to decide the people should not have access to that folder?

    Seems a little over zealous and closed minded
     
  9. jasonvp macrumors 6502a

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    I'm not sure I have a cogent answer to your point, really. There are a number of things Apple does with OS X that I scratch my head about. This is just another one of those things to put on the list. Thankfully they have work-arounds for it, even if said work-arounds are sub-optimal.

    jas
     
  10. orvn thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Thank you! That's what I was looking for.

    So the system library folder remains unhidden while the user library is hidden? Why not hide both?


    Not to mention sudden and unwarranted.
     
  11. Peace macrumors Core

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    A bit like this thread. ;)
     
  12. jasonvp macrumors 6502a

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    That's actually a good question and I can only assume it has to do with permissions. If you set your normal user up such that it can't administer the box (which is how I set mine up), then even if you can see the /Library and /System/Library directories, you can't write anything to them. Unlike your ~/Library where you could conceivably mess everything up.

    Again, just a guess.

    jas
     
  13. orvn thread starter macrumors 6502

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    hey!

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    Reasonable guess.
     
  14. macrem macrumors 65816

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    Probably in response to a spike in Support calls from users who broke something by mucking around in their library folders.
     
  15. dknightd macrumors 6502

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    Bummer. I would not have guessed a point release would mess with user account settings.
     
  16. Weaselboy Moderator

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    Yep... 10.7.1 and 10.7.2 both rehid the folder for me and I had to run the Terminal command again.
     
  17. adelec macrumors newbie

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    Something else to try

    I located the library as described (thanks!), then added it to the sidebar using the option on the file menu (CMD t). Has made is readily accessible - time will tell if it survives an update.
     

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