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Discussion in 'iOS 11' started by zoran, Dec 28, 2017.
I don't understand why Apple has not made possible the ability to downgrade from an iOS version?
That's how it works with iOS based on how Apple decided to do it (essentially so that they would just need to focus on the latest version).
I hate that thing also. I am lucky i am at 10.3.3. (Iphone 7)
I really want to try ios 11 but without option to downgrade i dont take the risk.
Wait? I thought that we all on iOS 11 would have already downgraded
Don't do it, you will regret.
I see users not happy with the latest version, but i do not see why Apple has decided not to allow users to downgrade! Is there an answer to that?
Apple will stop signing previous firmware as soon as newer firmware is available after a couple of days or months. It’s because each update patches vulnerabilies since Apple is committed to privacy and security of their products.
Supposed security reasons. I think Apple should at least allow you to use the latest version of each major version, so 6.1.6, 7.1.2, 8.4.1, 9.3.5, 10.3.3... You get the picture.
It's easier to focus on essentially just a single version without the need to worry about and support other versions. It also cuts down on fragmentation and helps from that point of view, both from Apple's for and the side of developers.
Shouldn't the lack of security -or not- of a user's phone be his own decision? If a user decides to downgrade, he should be allowed to so and also having no demand on Apple if the user encounters a security issue or something else!
That isn't how things work with iOS. It's something that's part of it and is known about it.
Im not saying its not known, but in the end, upgrading software (due to security issues or else) forces the user to continuously purchase new hardware! And i know that this stands for the whole industry, but its gotta stop some day and mark my words, only we users, have to power to do it!
It's been talked about for years, and here we still are.
What has been talked about for years, Apple's thing or the more general "UpgradingHostility"?
If they let us do that, then we will not buy new phones every 1 or 2 years. We should have that option, and security is my concern.
Personally im stuck at 9.3.4 and i cant upgrade to 9.3.5, why cant i even do that? Its absurd!
Totally agree with you @zoran , If peoples and apple say upgrade process is just for privacy and security then I would say why apple didn't make a secure OS and what is guaranteed that the new OS is secure.
You can't make an OS secure for all eternity. What you can do is patch the issues that show up. Which is what apple is doing. Apple has always made choices for the consumers, this is nothing new.
Its not my answer
"why apple didn't make a secure OS". They have a relatively secure OS, but new security holes are always found.
"what is guaranteed that the new OS is secure". The security holes they fixed are patched, but new ones will still get found.
Yes but in this "security hole patching up race" users are forced to upgrade by purchasing new phones. Why should that be the case? Apple (or any other company) should bust their butts in doing the best for the customer and certainly not forcing him to upgrade continuously! All is done for the money, no one gives a sh#t about the customer and this is something that to stop!
If they allowed that, there would be multiple posts on this site and others about how the whiners' phones were compromised.
Simple answer because they don't want you too. We can go into significan detail as why this may be a bad idea (or good idea), but at the end of the day, its their OS and their decision.
Well I think in a few situations this could lead to hidden inaccessible data or data loss, if the cloud/app part differs too much.
Here a fictive but somekind real scenario:
If Notes adds scanned documents and picture support, then you downgrade to a version which does not support these type of embedded documents. You won’t be able to access these documents, or the Notes Database could become corrupt.
Apple would need to test all kind of crazy downgrade scenarios to make sure such things does not happen.
Not an easy task for sure, and a development & testing resource investment into older versions that might not worth.
It’s also a reason why they block downgrades.
They could easily create a "warning pop up msg" when the one who would downgrade would face such an issue and it would be up to the user to decide. Ive said that before, they dont give a sh#t about the customer, its all about the money and the race of selling and forcing us all to upgrade continuously.