Why can't Siri set alarms in the future and for specific dates?

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  1. applefanboy4 macrumors regular

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    I have noticed Siri can't set an alarm for the future. You can't say "Set alarm for 8am on June 12, 2015.". And I just tried asking Siri to set an alarm for this Tuesday, so 2 days in advance, and she said she couldn't set an alarm for more than one day in advance.

    I know you can set reminders for advance dates, but reminders aren't alarms.

    Why do you think apple has never enabled Siri to do this? And why did they make the clock app so that you couldn't set an alarm for a specific date, just a specific day of the week.

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    plus alarms are loud. Reminders, though very helpful, aren't loud like alarms need to be.
     
  2. Gav2k macrumors G3

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    Siri can't perform a function that's not available. 'Alarms' are part of the clock app and have a 24 hour window.

    You could ask her to set a calendar alert tho it's all in the wording
     
  3. applefanboy4 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Thanks. I will do that.

    I was more just wondering why Apple would do that or not allow that. Do the majority of people not set alarms more than a day in advance? When crafting what Siri and the clock app can do, why were specific dates not part of it?

    Maybe I use alarms and its functions differently than most people. Maybe allowing Siri to set alarms in the far future or even more than 2 days in advance.

    And maybe I'm misunderstanding your answer, but the clock app has more than a 24 hour window. You can set an alarm for any day of the week, up to a week out, by manually going into the clock app and doing it. Setting specific dates though for alarms, May 24, 2015, for example, is not possible with Siri or the clock app,

    Nor is, to my knowledge the ability for Siri to set an alarm for "Friday April 24", even though you could manually go into the clock app and set an alarm for the generic Friday and it would go off on April 24, Friday.

    It seems like if you can do it manually and its allowable in the clock app, seems like Siri should also be able to do it?

    But again, maybe Im a minority here and most people either set alarms via Siri one day in advance or else manually set the alarms a week in advance in the clock app

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    And its also a question, i guess of, WHY is that function not available in Siri or the clock app?
     
  4. Gav2k macrumors G3

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    Because your replicating functiality that exists in the calander app maybe? Which Siri can use....

    When I said 24 hour window I was referring to a generic alarm set. Not the 'repeat' functionality as it does not cover your issue.
     
  5. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    I think the classical thinking of alarm clocks is in play here. When you get a standalone alarmclock or one part of a watch or something like that, historically and to this day the concept is applied in a generic manner--something that happens every day at a specific time, or basically whenever enabled on a day to day basis. Some additional options are sometimes there to allow things to repeat in a more custom way, like only on certain days of the week. But alarms are not typically things that are scheduled as an event would be basically. It's not that the idea wouldn't apply to them, but it's not how alarms are traditionally set up to work, and that's mainly what's likely behind it all. Perhaps a third party alarm app with more options might allow for something like that.
     
  6. AFDoc macrumors 68030

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    No one here can answer.... ask apple. Wondering why you feel the need to set an alarm days ahead of when you actually need said alarm?
     
  7. maflynn Moderator

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    Compared to Google Now and Cortana, Siri is more limited and has its own way of doing things. I do find it odd, that its not there.
     
  8. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Doesn't seem like this is as much of a Siri thing as it is simply an alarm implementation thing.
     
  9. applefanboy4 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Why would I need to add reminders or put stuff in the calendar for things way in the future?

    Its the same thing.

    If I know ahead of time, in 2 weeks, or 2 months, or 5 days, that I need to wake up at a certain time of day, to prepare early for an exam, to wake up, why wouldn't I set the alarm then? ahead of time. Why wait until that night to set the alarm?

    Its like what I was saying last night. I knew that on Tuesday morning, Id need to wake up early, so I decided to ask Siri, "set my alarm for Tuesday". And she couldn't, since its more than a day ahead of time.
     
  10. Small White Car macrumors G4

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    What you're asking for is incredibly complicated for the user.

    You can't have Siri setting things that the user can no longer see or change, so they only way for this to work would be to add a full calendar function to the alarm clock app.

    So now we would have both a full calendar with audio alarms attached to it and, conversely, audio alarms in the clock with a a calendar attached to it. Two apps performing the same function but in opposite ways. (And maintaining to distinctly separate calendars.)

    So whenever you wanted to check and see if you set an alarm for a certain date you'd have to check two places if you couldn't remember which app you set it in.

    I think it's far simpler to tell people to just use the clock alarm for when it's tomorrow and the calendar if it's further in the future than that.
     
  11. thekb macrumors 6502a

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    I'd love to be able to set different alert tones for different calendar events or reminders. I get used to hearing the same one over and over again, but if there's something I really need to get my attention, I want to set a sound that is radically different. Any way to do that?
     
  12. Mliii macrumors 65816

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    I like this concept a lot!
    i use different ring tones for a variety of categories in my contacts. If I hear a certain ringtone, I know it's a certain person, or a person in a certain group.
    I'd love to see alarms function this same way.
     
  13. scaredpoet macrumors 604

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    Because that's what the calendar app is for.

    Then it shouldn't be a problem just making it calendar event, should it?

    ... because if it's something that's date-based, you make an event in the calendar app.
     
  14. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    But it wouldn't be an alarm, it would just be a reminder or a calendar even that would sound once and that's it, which is different as to how an alarm functions.
     
  15. Robman macrumors newbie

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    Its true form follows function. It true Apple Watch (Siri) is attempting to mimic an old fashion alarm clock. On an old fashion alarm clock, one would move the alarm wand to say the 6 o'clock (AM?) position and everyday one would simply turn alarm on, within a 12 hour --minus a second-- window, and it would ring endlessly until you hit the snooze button. Simply turn on the alarm the night before the morning you need an alarm and voilà!

    A calendar reminder is not an alarm --it's an event and chimes you once because you're hopefully already awake and you will respond; getting Siri to add a future days' calendar event is not a big deal unless you literally want that event to truly be an alarm that will really (and hopefully) wake you up!

    So what's needed in Siri to make this happen? Not really much of anything except a new command response sequence and we will need a new alarm type in the calendar function.

    What's needed at Apple to make this happen? That will be a million times harder to make it happen at Apple than the actual programming solution. That's because it is a philosophical thing and it will take a leader to override the dogma argument and simply say: "just make it happen!"

    After all, there's nothing wrong with improving upon what's being mimicked and if function might somehow possibly follow form instead, it is really an electronic device that should really meet the needs of the user and not someone over philosophizing the thought of the thing it's attempting to mimic .
     
  16. dreweastmead macrumors newbie

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    yes but making events in the calendar app, to the original poster's point.... they will not wake you up. the vibrations/sounds are useless if you have your phone on silent, which I do 95% of the time. the only way is to set an alarm to override the "silent" setting. so it's a valid feature request.... the internet is filled with people trying to figure out this question for 3+ years now
     
  17. rugmankc macrumors 68000

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    It would be a nice feature. Doubt if I would use it, as my alarms are for next day wake time only. Although, I use an alarm clock for that. Would hate to start setting 5am alarms 2weeks out, not need them, and forget to cancel alarm.
     
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  19. elliebellx macrumors newbie

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    You aren't replicating calander function, an alert on the calander or reminders app rings once and then nothing, Apple need to create an ALARM app that rings continuously until you turn it off (or snooze) but is based on dates. e.g. next friday i want to get up at 7am but this friday i want a ly-in till 10am therefore i can't set an alarm that will achieve this because you can only set an alarm on weekdays (mon-sun) and they repeat at the same time. I want a different time every day
     
  20. onepoint macrumors 6502a

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    You replied to a post from about 3 years ago, just FYI.
     
  21. bushman4 macrumors 68020

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    Siri needs to be seriously updated
    When we look st Windows Cortana or Alexa they have much more capabilities
    Than Siri unfortunately
    It’s surprising now that Apple has released its HomePod that Siri was not improved much
     
  22. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    Does Siri need improvements in certain areas? Yes. But for the HomePod, I Have had read very few complaints about Siri at all. Most used Siri for the HomePod for basic questions and tasks. The big implementation with Siri and the HomePod is the sensitivity for Microphone when requesting Siri, which seemingly has been excellent.
     

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