Why didn't Apple open-source NeXTSTEP?

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  1. Ariii macrumors 6502a

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    OS X wasn't directly built on top of NeXTSTEP, even though it was also Unix-based. Why didn't they open-source it like OS 9? The UI is different, and there's no way to hack it in order to make it enough like OS X. OS X doesn't really have the 'blocks' thing either, and it's based off of the XNU kernel.
     
  2. Intell macrumors P6

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    Mac OS 9 is not open source. No classic Mac is open source.
     
  3. boss.king macrumors 68040

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    Giving things away for free isn't in their vocabulary.
     
  4. Ariii thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Oh, sorry! I think putting it as abandon-ware could help Apple sort of say that OS X makes it obsolete. Steve Jobs himself has said that OS 9 was dead.
     
  5. DeepIn2U macrumors 68040

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    NeXTSTEP was open sourced by version 3/4 ... it was called OpenSTEP!
     
  6. Intell macrumors P6

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    7.5.3 and the 7.5.5 update are free as disk images on Apple's site for download. 7.6, 8.0, 8.5, and 9.0 are not available for download.
     
  7. DeepIn2U macrumors 68040

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    no ... but licensing OS 9 was in Apple's history.
     
  8. Ariii thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Umm... OpenSTEP was an API, not an operating system...

    As for NeXTSTEP, I would love to see it open-sourced, especially to see the thing they had with the blocks. Anyways, I heard it was very easy to develop for, and many of the features aren't in modern OS's.
     
  9. beg_ne macrumors 6502

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    Just to name a few:

    • WebKit
    • CUPS
    • Bonjour
    • LLVM
    • LLDB
    • ALAC
    • XQuartz
    • MacRuby
    • launchd
    • libdispatch

    You were saying?
     
  10. boss.king macrumors 68040

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    I stand corrected.
     
  11. KnightWRX macrumors Pentium

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    Those aren't Apple projects (aside from ALAC, launchd and libdispatch) and the license (the GPL) forces them to "give them away". :rolleyes:

    You were saying ?

    As for this thread, where's a good facepalm ?
     
  12. briankwest77 macrumors member

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    Lets not forget http://www.tuaw.com/2007/07/12/apple-buys-cups/

    /b
     
  13. KnightWRX macrumors Pentium

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  14. roadbloc macrumors G3

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    Because they didn't. Just because a product is old, doesn't mean you have to give it away for free.
     
  15. Ariii thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Apple isn't making any money off of it. It's not like they're giving away free NeXT computers. It costs them nothing to make, and they can give away to an infinite number at no cost. I'm just looking for the reason they didn't make it available to the public. And there's some people who would definitely be interested in looking at it. It's very, very hard to pick up a copy of NeXTSTEP as well.
     
  16. roadbloc macrumors G3

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    Who cares? Not everyone is like ID Software. When my book gets over ten years old I won't make it free. There is no reason why Apple should do this. If they don't want anyone to have it, that is that.
     
  17. KnightWRX macrumors Pentium

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    If you want to look at NeXTSTEP, just have a look at OS X. What do you want to see so badly ? The GUI ? You'll be awfully disappointed, by this point, it's very dated.
     
  18. MacsRgr8 macrumors 604

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    If you look hard on the 'net you will probably find a VMware guest-os image of NeXSTEP.
    It's fun to run NeXTSTEP. Yes, it's old, but you will find many similarities with OS X. It definitely is the beginning of OS X and iOS.
     

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