Why do Apple keep on making mistakes after another?

WWDC2013

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First, they failed to release a larger 4.8~5" iPhone in addition to the release of the 4" iPhone 5....

Second, iOS was stale because the lack of functionality... The icons didn't need any major redesign, it was the functionalities that were so lacking. iOS7 violates Apple's value for ease of use and the design is extremely controversial.

Third, why was there no retina display on the macbook air? Other ultrabook competitors have up-ed their screen res, Apple is behind.... yet again.
 

likemyorbs

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I like iOS 7. And 5" is too big. If that's what you want, there are plenty of options for you.
 

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First, they failed to release a larger 4.8~5" iPhone in addition to the release of the 4" iPhone 5....

Second, iOS was stale because the lack of functionality... The icons didn't need any major redesign, it was the functionalities that were so lacking. iOS7 violates Apple's value for ease of use and the design is extremely controversial.

Third, why was there no retina display on the macbook air? Other ultrabook competitors have up-ed their screen res, Apple is behind.... yet again.
You registered to say that?
 

ZacNicholson

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my girlfriend says 4 inches is big enough, but she did get me some kind of pump for my birthday. so what do i know?:confused:
 

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First, they failed to release a larger 4.8~5" iPhone in addition to the release of the 4" iPhone 5....

Second, iOS was stale because the lack of functionality... The icons didn't need any major redesign, it was the functionalities that were so lacking. iOS7 violates Apple's value for ease of use and the design is extremely controversial.

Third, why was there no retina display on the macbook air? Other ultrabook competitors have up-ed their screen res, Apple is behind.... yet again.
Apple cannot function without Steve Jobs, as history has shown. They don't make changes where they count, even though they could.

This is right about the 3rd consecutive letdown. Apple is struggling right now as visionary is concerned. Any other company, and there would've been some serious shifts in management.

Apple is going to die a slow and painful death.
 

WWDC2013

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That is what I'm really afraid of.... Apple had the shot to make things right in WWDC 2013... But they completely blew it imo
 

joneun

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Ios7 was the most disappointing. A high point of WWDC was the MacBook Air all day battery life. I like Mavericks.

But they saved the worst for last. IOS7. smh

I believe that Apple is lost.
 

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The reactions are going from "blowed it completely" to "best WWDC in a long time". They did a good job, a lot of it is a matter of personal preferences.
 

WWDC2013

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The reactions are going from "blowed it completely" to "best WWDC in a long time". They did a good job, a lot of it is a matter of personal preferences.
This is bad because Apple doesn't allow users to customize.... so say 50% of the current iOS users like iOS7, and the other 50% don't.... APPLE IS TOASTED!!!!!

No wonder iOS6 adoption is currently as high as 93%!!! It's because people were not afraid to upgrade, everything looked the same.... but with iOS7.... dont count on having 93% adoption!!!
 

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Third, why was there no retina display on the macbook air? Other ultrabook competitors have up-ed their screen res, Apple is behind.... yet again.
It's a thickness thing. It's a battery thing. It's a price point thing. Also, a differentiator thing. Finally, a "thing" to help sell more MacBook Pro's with Retina Display (probably the least of their worries.)

The MacBook Air has effectively replaced the original MacBook and is the "MacBook for the rest of us", so to speak. Ultimately you'll see Retina or similar style screens on MacBook Air, but it's not here yet for those reasons and a few others.
 

joneun

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It's a thickness thing. It's a battery thing. It's a price point thing. Also, a differentiator thing. Finally, a "thing" to help sell more MacBook Pro's with Retina Display (probably the least of their worries.)

The MacBook Air has effectively replaced the original MacBook and is the "MacBook for the rest of us", so to speak. Ultimately you'll see Retina or similar style screens on MacBook Air, but it's not here yet for those reasons and a few others.
True, but even if they had increased the display by just a little bit, sales would've been through the roof. I do think they don't want people to upgrade quickly like that yet.

I can keep my current MacBook Air.
 

kerrikins

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I do wonder if Steve Jobs found it flattering yet frustrating to to be considered the only good person working at Apple, since apparently that's what a lot of people think...

Apple has been a juggernaut over the last few years, with success after success in a way that most companies have never seen, nor will they ever. The thing is, the market was starting to catch up even when Steve Jobs was still alive, and that's to be expected. It's very, very rare for companies to innovate and stay out ahead of the pack for years and years - look at Nintendo as an example.

It would take epic mismanagement at this point for Apple to crumble back to the state they were in when Steve stepped in years ago, and only time will tell if that's what's going to happen here - there's no way for us to tell at this point.
 

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True, but even if they had increased the display by just a little bit, sales would've been through the roof. I do think they don't want people to upgrade quickly like that yet.

I can keep my current MacBook Air.
This. Apple then makes tons more money, but now people are buying windows ultra books instead...
 

joneun

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I do wonder if Steve Jobs found it flattering yet frustrating to to be considered the only good person working at Apple, since apparently that's what a lot of people think...

Apple has been a juggernaut over the last few years, with success after success in a way that most companies have never seen, nor will they ever. The thing is, the market was starting to catch up even when Steve Jobs was still alive, and that's to be expected. It's very, very rare for companies to innovate and stay out ahead of the pack for years and years - look at Nintendo as an example.

It would take epic mismanagement at this point for Apple to crumble back to the state they were in when Steve stepped in years ago, and only time will tell if that's what's going to happen here - there's no way for us to tell at this point.
It's already happening.
 

Dolorian

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1. First, they failed to release a larger 4.8~5" iPhone in addition to the release of the 4" iPhone 5....

2. Second, iOS was stale because the lack of functionality... The icons didn't need any major redesign, it was the functionalities that were so lacking. iOS7 violates Apple's value for ease of use and the design is extremely controversial.

3. Third, why was there no retina display on the macbook air? Other ultrabook competitors have up-ed their screen res, Apple is behind.... yet again.
1. Saying that they "failed" to release something presupposes that they, in fact, announced or planned to release that something. Apple had no plans to release such a phone when they released the iPhone 5 (their jabs at phones with larger screens show that), ergo it cannot be said that they "failed" to release it.

2. I personally don't like the new icons but in order for Apple to truly revamp iOS with new functionalities a design overhaul was necessary to accommodate them. Apple couldn't just keep cramming functionality into the OS while keeping everything as it was. iOS was also feeling quite dated from a design standpoint as the excessive skeuomorphism it had in many parts was at odds with what is considered good interface design today.

3. And for all that I am willing to bet that the new MacBook Airs best these new ultrabooks with their high res screens in terms of performance, durability, battery life and overall value. Unlike the PC manufacturers, Apple doesn't plays race when it comes to pushing out models with the latest and greatest technologies.
 

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1. Saying that they "failed" to release something presupposes that they, in fact, announced or planned to release that something. Apple had no plans to release such a phone when they released the iPhone 5 (their jabs at phones with larger screens show that), ergo it cannot be said that they "failed" to release it.

2. I personally don't like the new icons but in order for Apple to truly revamp iOS with new functionalities a design overhaul was necessary to accommodate them. Apple couldn't just keep cramming functionality into the OS while keeping everything as it was. iOS was also feeling quite dated from a design standpoint as the excessive skeuomorphism it had in many parts was at odds with what is considered good interface design today.

3. And for all that I am willing to bet that the new MacBook Airs best these new ultrabooks with their high res screens in terms of performance, durability, battery life and overall value. Unlike the PC manufacturers, Apple doesn't plays race when it comes to pushing out models with the latest and greatest technologies.
Because of #1 Samsung is becoming a serious cancer to Apple
Because of #2 Apple is being called as copycat (which used to be Samsung)
Because of #3 People are considering Windows ultrabooks for the very first time...
 

cmanderson

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True, but even if they had increased the display by just a little bit, sales would've been through the roof. I do think they don't want people to upgrade quickly like that yet.

I can keep my current MacBook Air.
If you bought one in the last year or two, that's probably wise unless you value batter life above all else, or you just have to play Diablo III with a bit better frame rate than before. :rolleyes:

A lot of business travelers would love to trade in their MacBook Air 13" for the 2013 model, even without the display bump some of you are clamoring for. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but it's not happening right now for those reasons.

I bought a 15" MacBook Pro Retina and sold my 2011 MacBook Air 13" last year. I don't regret it at all - and that's after having paid twice what the MBA cost in July 2011.
 

joneun

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I really like the "Apple All Day Battery" that's a very valuable feature.

I already know that with this new technology, they will bring it to future products. The iPhone will be the next to get it l, which will be wonderful.

When I was watching the Keynote I said, "he doesn't really mean all day does he? 8 hours is not all day." And then he showed the clock fill up with more hours and I clapped.
 

cmanderson

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It's already happening.
Amount in cash reserves in October 2011 - USD $81 billion

Steve Jobs passed away October 5, 2011. I was in San Francisco that day at an Oracle trade show. It was felt by many and I remember it well.

Amount in cash reserves in June 2013 - USD $145 billion.

They're hurting bad without Steve, I tell ya...JUST HURTING!

By the way, tell me if this Apple store reminds you of any recently announced Mac products:

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/18/tim-cook-not-religious-about-holding-cash-66-of-apples-81b-in-cash-is-held-overseas/

http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/23/apple-cash-q2-2013/
 

mainevent1536

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Amount in cash reserves in October 2011 - USD $81 billion

Steve Jobs passed away October 5, 2011. I was in San Francisco that day at an Oracle trade show. It was felt by many and I remember it well.

Amount in cash reserves in June 2013 - USD $145 billion.

They're hurting bad without Steve, I tell ya...JUST HURTING!
How will they ever survive?! :eek:
 

daigohgoh

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Dude, you are completely wrong.

This iOS7 is a breath of fresh air!

Not only doe the icons look up to date, the control center is much needed! No more sbsettings for me!

I love how everything is quasi translucent. Not even the jail breaking community could've themed this up!

And did you hear the applause! It wasn't clap because it was Apple, it was clap because they innovated out of their asses!

this is not a sarcastic post.

honestly, there's so much more to do for ios8 but this is the right step in leeching our dollars.

i'll be upgrading blindly. (well, maybe after I see the reviews first, semi blindly then.)
 

Anti-Lucifer

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Dude, you are completely wrong.

This iOS7 is a breath of fresh air!

Not only doe the icons look up to date, the control center is much needed! No more sbsettings for me!

I love how everything is quasi translucent. Not even the jail breaking community could've themed this up!

And did you hear the applause! It wasn't clap because it was Apple, it was clap because they innovated out of their asses!

this is not a sarcastic post.

honestly, there's so much more to do for ios8 but this is the right step in leeching our dollars.

i'll be upgrading blindly. (well, maybe after I see the reviews first, semi blindly then.)
are you joking? It's the exact same OS underneath. Only the bad thing is the components are written from the ground up to Forstall's exact standards and design. Now Ive's comes in and hacks it up which obviously doesn't work well at all.

If you think this is anything more than a winterboard theme, you're sorely mistaken. It's the EXACT SAME OS without textures and buttons. It's terrible!
 

joneun

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Amount in cash reserves in October 2011 - USD $81 billion

Steve Jobs passed away October 5, 2011. I was in San Francisco that day at an Oracle trade show. It was felt by many and I remember it well.

Amount in cash reserves in June 2013 - USD $145 billion.

They're hurting bad without Steve, I tell ya...JUST HURTING!

By the way, tell me if this Apple store reminds you of any recently announced Mac products:

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/18/tim-cook-not-religious-about-holding-cash-66-of-apples-81b-in-cash-is-held-overseas/

http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/23/apple-cash-q2-2013/
Yes, and I wonder how much of that is going to last after Apple fails competitively and starts becoming irrelevant.