Why do only some imovies show in theater on iphone?

Discussion in 'Digital Video' started by Frznrth, Jan 19, 2017.

  1. Frznrth macrumors member

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    Hi
    I'm starting to load home movies into Icloud for safe keeping. So far I have 50 loaded up into Itheater. All is good when I use my mac. But when I look at Itheather on my iphone I only see 18. Whats going on? Does Itheater on iphone have a limit?

    So Itheater doesn't show up directly in icloud? - I need to access it through imovie?

    Was also wondering what happens when I load a movie to Itunes instead - I saw this option - any reason to do this instead of using itheater?

    All of this is seeming to be way more complicated than it should

    Thanks for the help.
     
  2. ApfelKuchen macrumors 68020

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    This article may help: https://support.apple.com/HT204529 (check if iCloud Drive is enabled on both your iPhone and Mac).

    Putting the movies into Theater put them into iCloud. While safekeeping is one purpose of iCloud, the ability to access those videos from your Apple devices is another.

    Putting the movies into iTunes won't provide safekeeping, unless you're making a backup of your Mac (Time Machine, etc.). It also doesn't put the videos onto your iPhone unless you sync your phone to the Mac to transfer them.

    Theater has a 50-movie limit (for Apple TV), which you've already reached. I don't think that limit applies to iPhone, though. See https://support.apple.com/kb/PH14571

    Theater doesn't show up at iCloud.com, but iCloud Photo Library does. You may want to share your photos to iCloud Photo Library instead of Theater. If the movies are in iCloud Photo Library, you can also put them in Shared Albums that you can share with others. If you use iCloud Photo Library for the videos, the only limit on the number of movies is the amount of storage you buy from iCloud.
     
  3. Frznrth thread starter macrumors member

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    Thanks
    So I should have access to all my Theater movies on my phone - but I don't. Any ideas what to try?

    Is the 50 movie limit on Apple TV something that will likely change? Disappointing if it doesn't. Would make me consider other options for sure.
     
  4. ApfelKuchen macrumors 68020

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    Did you check to see if iCloud Drive is enabled on both Mac and iPhone?

    Test to see if a new movie uploaded to Theater on iPhone appears on the Mac, and test to see if a new movie uploaded to Theater on Mac appears on iPhone. (In which direction, if any, are you having the problem? Also, if you haven't been uploading movies from iPhone, doing that may also trigger availability of the movies from Mac.)

    You might also try toggling the upload to iCloud settings off and on: iPhone > Settings > iMovie > Upload to iCloud and Mac > iMovie > Preferences: Theater > Automatically upload content to iCloud.

    Another thing to try is signing out of iCloud altogether on iPhone and/or Mac, then signing back in.

    Is the 50-movie limit going to change? I have no idea. iMovie Theater is older than iCloud Photo Library. iCloud Photo Library is capable of replacing iMovie Theater altogether. I don't know if Theater is sufficiently popular/well-used that Apple would expand its capabilities, or whether Apple might encourage use of iCloud Photo Library.
     
  5. steve123 macrumors regular

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    There is a limit to the length of the movie you can have in iCloud. I think I recall the limit is 10 minute ... just checked https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT202299, the limit is actually 5 minutes. So, if your movies are longer than 5 minutes, you cannot put them in the iCloud Photo Library.
     
  6. Frznrth thread starter macrumors member

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    Thanks. I don't know why but the other movies started showing up on my phone until the memory filled up.

    Too bad I can't see all the movies on iCloud and then just watch what I want in my phone. Do you think this would ever happen? If not I'm going to look hard at my options for storring movies/pictures in the cloud.
     
  7. steve123 macrumors regular

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    What if you loaded the movies into iCloud drive? Then, when you wanted to view a movie, you download it onto your phone from iCloud drive.
     
  8. ApfelKuchen macrumors 68020

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    The 5-minute limit refers to iCloud Photo Sharing, not iCloud Photo Library. Presumably, there's a limit because iCloud Photo Sharing does not count against iCloud storage allowances. If you're paying Apple for long videos uploaded to iCloud storage (as you would for iCloud Photo Library), Apple's not quite so concerned about how you use that space.
     
  9. Frznrth thread starter macrumors member

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    Hi
    That sounds perfect. I didn't know I could store movies in iCloud Drive. I just make a file and drop them in?
    Thanks
     
  10. steve123 macrumors regular

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    Yes. That is what I have done in the past. I created a folder "Home Movies" and dropped the videos in there.
    --- Post Merged, Jan 26, 2017 ---
    The photo library enforces the 5 minute limit. I pay for 50 GB of storage and cannot upload anything more than 5 min in length using the iCloud photo library ... unless there is some other way to upload that I am not aware of?
    --- Post Merged, Jan 26, 2017 ---
    One more thing, if you use iCloud Drive, the movies will replicate across your other macs. So, that may be an unintended consequence (good or bad) of using iCloud Drive.
     

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