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Why do people buy used or refurbished iPhones since the FaceID parts may be aftermarket or third party and not have the original and genuine FaceID parts? Wouldn’t that be unsafe and cause injury to your eyes and skin? How are the people all over the world that use refurbished or used iPhones not blind since if the FaceID parts are aftermarket, it could damage their eyes, especially if they use the device unknowingly day to day and didn’t know the FaceID parts were not the original and genuine ones?
Best troll of the day... Blind someone with the dot projector!
 
Cost? Just a crazy guess... Several people I know only buy used. Some people judge them based on that. *shrug* YDY...

I bought a used Moto Razr to fill in until I could get a new phone in my ridiculous cell phone plan decades ago. :rolleyes: Back when they actually penalized you for wanting to a new phone. o_O
 
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Why do people buy used or refurbished iPhones since the FaceID parts may be aftermarket or third party and not have the original and genuine FaceID parts? Wouldn’t that be unsafe and cause injury to your eyes and skin? How are the people all over the world that use refurbished or used iPhones not blind since if the FaceID parts are aftermarket, it could damage their eyes, especially if they use the device unknowingly day to day and didn’t know the FaceID parts were not the original and genuine ones?
Many many blind iPhones users in my town! What's even worse is they are walking the streets shooting their cheap lasers at random people because they want them to suffer too. It's a nightmare and the mainstream media is quiet.
 
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Why do people buy used or refurbished iPhones since the FaceID parts may be aftermarket or third party and not have the original and genuine FaceID parts? Wouldn’t that be unsafe and cause injury to your eyes and skin? How are the people all over the world that use refurbished or used iPhones not blind since if the FaceID parts are aftermarket, it could damage their eyes, especially if they use the device unknowingly day to day and didn’t know the FaceID parts were not the original and genuine ones?

So you're saying Apple Certified Refurbished iPhones may have aftermarket or third party FaceID parts?

Do you hear yourself? This thread doesn't make any sense
 
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So you're saying Apple Certified Refurbished iPhones may have aftermarket or third party FaceID parts?

Do you hear yourself? This thread doesn't make any sense

While this thread may not make sense, Apple isn't the only company that sells "refurbished" iPhones. The OP (whose account has since been suspended for some reason) did not specify "Apple Certified Refurbished", just "refurbished" which doesn't necessarily mean/include Apple.
 
While this thread may not make sense, Apple isn't the only company that sells "refurbished" iPhones. The OP (whose account has since been suspended for some reason) did not specify "Apple Certified Refurbished", just "refurbished" which doesn't necessarily mean/include Apple.

Good point. And who knows who Apple uses for their refurbishment. Years ago, we had a run of Dell replacement (refurb) systems that came in DOA. Some replacements of the replacements came in DOA. THere was a rather big lawsuit over it I believe. We just kept returning their broken 'refurbed' junk, and getting different broken refurbed junk. Eventually, all were working. Good times...
 
Good point. And who knows who Apple uses for their refurbishment.
huh? Regardless who Apple uses, they give the same warranty and option for AppleCare on their refurbished models as their new models. So if a consumer gets a DOA unit, it’s under warranty.
 
huh? Regardless who Apple uses, they give the same warranty and option for AppleCare on their refurbished models as their new models. So if a consumer gets a DOA unit, it’s under warranty.

Sure, but I had 'Craftsman' socket sets, lifetime warranty. Most people said that 'you needed it if you bought their sets.

I also had an iMac, refurb, that went totally mental. I mean it was unusable. Sure it had a warranty, and I bought AppleCare, but it was The Time. I had to diagnose the issue, I had to call Apple, I had to truck it to the local store TWICE, and finally it went completely sideways and mental while it was there. I *did* get a new iMac as a replacement, but the time I spent away from my business and the projects I was working on wasn't compensated for. I asked if it was related to the original purchaser and their reason for returning it? Apple changes the serial number so tracking it's original issues seems impossible. *shrug*

But the other refurbs I've bought have been solid.
 
Sure, but I had 'Craftsman' socket sets, lifetime warranty. Most people said that 'you needed it if you bought their sets.

I also had an iMac, refurb, that went totally mental. I mean it was unusable. Sure it had a warranty, and I bought AppleCare, but it was The Time. I had to diagnose the issue, I had to call Apple, I had to truck it to the local store TWICE, and finally it went completely sideways and mental while it was there. I *did* get a new iMac as a replacement, but the time I spent away from my business and the projects I was working on wasn't compensated for. I asked if it was related to the original purchaser and their reason for returning it? Apple changes the serial number so tracking it's original issues seems impossible. *shrug*

But the other refurbs I've bought have been solid.

As someone who worked at the retail level and dealt with service and warranties often, I can assure you that none of the parts that had any issues from the previous ownership or the iMac itself would have made it in the refurbished unit you ended up with.

For the most part, Apple rarely reuses actual parts and rather reuses the materials and things like chipsets and memory modules on new boards as opposed to reusing entire boards and PCBs internally.

All other consumables like batteries, external components touched by the user are replaced with brand new parts as well.

It sounds like you just had a bad unit or one that was involved an existing quality program/recall with known issues.
 
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Maybe he is poor

Maybe he is smart.

And read the fine print of some vendors. Dell and HP said that not all parts in their computers are necessarily 'factory new', which was an interesting thing to find buried there. Maybe they changed it since, but it would explain a lot I think. *shrug*

Reduce, reuse, recycle. News article just this morning: A 'trash pile' the size of 11 football fields caught fire in India recently, and it's sickening everyone around it, the fumes are so toxic. I used to drive by three 'dumps' (solid waste disposal sites) that have nearly tripled in size in the 15 years or so.
 
Good point. And who knows who Apple uses for their refurbishment. Years ago, we had a run of Dell replacement (refurb) systems that came in DOA. Some replacements of the replacements came in DOA. THere was a rather big lawsuit over it I believe. We just kept returning their broken 'refurbed' junk, and getting different broken refurbed junk. Eventually, all were working. Good times...

Apple's certified refurbished iPhones are about as close to new as you can get with a new battery, new outer shell, genuine Apple replacement parts (as needed), same-as-new 1 year warranty, etc. Of course, both new devices and used or refurbished devices can be "lemons" including those from Apple.
 
Because the Apple phone is also very good to use for a long time, this is much better than the Android phone
 
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I just bought my second XS 256gb space gray. Condition is perfect, seriously no even small tiny scratches or dents. 100% battery since I replaced it today at local OEM service point. Now I have 2 excellent condition XS's lol
 
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I just bought my second XS 256gb space gray. Condition is perfect, seriously no even small tiny scratches and dents. 100% battery since I replaced it today at local OEM service point. Now I have 2 excellent condition XS's lol
Great choice, I downgraded from 14 pro to an XS (temporarily) and boy I love this old dog! I will buy your other XS if you want to sell it :p. I was just comparing the new 12/13/14 pros to the XS and just how terrible the new ones in terms of weight and form factor. And its not like there has been leaps and bounds of improvement in terms of software either.
 
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Great choice, I downgraded from 14 pro to an XS (temporarily) and boy I love this old dog! I will buy your other XS if you want to sell it :p. I was just comparing the new 12/13/14 pros to the XS and just how terrible the new ones in terms of weight and form factor. And its not like there has been leaps and bounds of improvement in terms of software either.
I have had 13 mini, 13 pro, 11 pro and 14 but XS is still my all time favorite. Weight, size and quality are right on spot and curve design makes it so comfortable to use. Stainless steel and glossy glass are the best combination of materials.
 
With all the stories of people having vision problems with the new screens, and my ambivalence about the actual coverage quality of 5G in my area, a refurbished older iPhone is an obvious "first to shop for" item for me.
 
Why do people buy used or refurbished iPhones since the FaceID parts may be aftermarket or third party and not have the original and genuine FaceID parts? Wouldn’t that be unsafe and cause injury to your eyes and skin? How are the people all over the world that use refurbished or used iPhones not blind since if the FaceID parts are aftermarket, it could damage their eyes, especially if they use the device unknowingly day to day and didn’t know the FaceID parts were not the original and genuine ones?
What a shock! This guy got suspended!
 
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I have had 13 mini, 13 pro, 11 pro and 14 but XS is still my all time favorite. Weight, size and quality are right on spot and curve design makes it so comfortable to use. Stainless steel and glossy glass are the best combination of materials.
Love to hear the XS love. I just got rid of mine a few months ago and got the 11 Pro; but a piece of me still misses that Gold color and especially 3D Touch.

XS is easily my favorite iPhone I've ever owned.
 
Like everyone else said people pick up used iPhones due to costs and budgets. I am an Apple fan but I honestly don't know anyone that upgrades iphones, Apple watches, MacBooks yearly in my social circle outside these forums. I don't even upgrade yearly lol. I currently have an iPhone 14 Pro Max, Apple Watch Ultra, gen 2 Airpods, and MacBook Pro 13 Inch ( M1 Chip model). I am very happy with what I have and have no plans to upgrade any of them this year.

So for those who don't have to have the latest and greatest each year, buying the previous year's model at a discount is the way to go.
 
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