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johneaston

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I've really been enjoying *&?! My Dad Says which has been airing here in the UK. So much so I went online to find a DVD of series 2 to carry on my enjoyment and it's been cancelled!

Same happened with Joey (a bit embarassed about that one, but I thought it was good, simple viewing) and loads of others that I can't think of right now.

Why don't they let shows bed-in?!
 
Lack of ratings = no money from advertisers = show gets cancelled. Doesn't matter if the show is good or not.
 
Why don't they let shows bed-in?!

Lack of ratings = no money from advertisers = show gets cancelled. Doesn't matter if the show is good or not.

As I understand it, your system uses license money to fund Beeb, and no ads means they don't target specific demographics.

This is one reason why your shows are usually top-notch.

Please, correct me if I am wrong.
 
The license fee also covers itv, channel 4, and channel 5 - all of which do have ads. These channels have never (as far as I am aware) cancelled a show in the middle of a run.
 
I'm still bitter about losing The Chicago Code this season. Where am I going to get my Jennifer Beals-in-a-cop-uniform fix now?

But seriously, it was a good show. :mad:

America's ratings and network system blows - the only evidence you need is the dominance of the moronic, juvenile Two and a Half Men.
 
As I understand it, your system uses license money to fund Beeb, and no ads means they don't target specific demographics.

This is one reason why your shows are usually top-notch.

Please, correct me if I am wrong.

if you think their shows are "usually top-notch".......why do you the OP would be watching a US show? :p
 
I'm still bitter about losing The Chicago Code this season. Where am I going to get my Jennifer Beals-in-a-cop-uniform fix now?


LOL. Her as a police boss is exactly what have me turn it off minutes after it started.
 
if you think their shows are "usually top-notch".......why do you the OP would be watching a US show? :p

I assume that someone ****ed-up, and accidently produced something of interest. :p

And just go through the litany of Brit-Coms that have crossed the pond.

And many, many other formats too.

Sadly, reality shows are one of them.

And let's not even speak of *Simon*. :mad:
 
I assume that someone ****ed-up, and accidently produced something of interest. :p

And just go through the litany of Brit-Coms that have crossed the pond.

And many, many other formats too.

Sadly, reality shows are one of them.

And let's not even speak of *Simon*. :mad:

speaking of British shows being imported across the pond, I see that BBC-America is now importing "Law & Order; UK"......so now we can see a British show that's a knock-off of a US show :p
 
speaking of British shows being imported across the pond, I see that BBC-America is now importing "Law & Order; UK"......so now we can see a British show that's a knock-off of a US show :p

Any bets it will be better??

I'll cover all money. ;)

Sadly, Leo McKern has passed away, otherwise he could cover the Order portion.

As for Law, how about Robert Carlyle? :D
 
Any bets it will be better??

I'll cover all money. ;)

Sadly, Leo McKern has passed away, otherwise he could cover the Order portion.

As for Law, how about Robert Carlyle? :D

having seen it, unfortunately, it's just another iteration of the same old formula

...The first 13 episodes are based on scripts from the original Law & Order series...

Robert Carlyle? no such luck :(
 
The reason is simple.

Money, if the ratings are not what they want them to be, then the ad dollars do not flow and if no ad dollars, no income.

There's been plenty of great shows that got the axe. Just consider Star Trek, it was not really a ratings winner back in the 60s but look at the franchise that grew out of the series.

Some networks don't give a series a chance to grow an audience, they want a quick fix, especially now a days when reality shows give an immediate bump in ratings for not much of an investment.
 
One day all we’ll have is reality TV. They cost very little to make and lots of people seem to like them. I personally don’t.

I was amused when I found out that Survivors had script editors. Think about it for minute. I had to go look up some episode credits to confirm this, as we haven't had cable here for years. If we want to watch a show we either get it online, or rent it from the local independent video shop.

Brit TV rulz! Though CBC's show Intelligence was one of those fantastic shows that was cancelled after only 2 seasons. Fie on you, Mother Corp!
 
LOL. Her as a police boss is exactly what have me turn it off minutes after it started.

Are you insane? If she were a police officer in my city, I'd start openly committing crimes just so she could frisk me, arrest me, and shove me into her car. :D

You should have kept watching, she was a bad ass police commissioner. There are so many crappy cop shows on television, canceling The Chicago Code is a crime.
 
The ratings system that we have is not accurate at all. They use one household and multiply it by 1000. They really don't know what the true numbers are of people watching. 999 people might be watching something different entirely and the networks would never even know.
 
America's ratings and network system blows - the only evidence you need is the dominance of the moronic, juvenile Two and a Half Men.
Amen to that. That show is utter garbage. I'm almost embarrassed for Neil Patrick Harris.

The ratings system that we have is not accurate at all. They use one household and multiply it by 1000. They really don't know what the true numbers are of people watching. 999 people might be watching something different entirely and the networks would never even know.
As I understand it, they use a much more accurate system now.
 
Amen to that. That show is utter garbage. I'm almost embarrassed for Neil Patrick Harris.


As I understand it, they use a much more accurate system now.
This system still sucks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neilson_ratings
Another criticism of the measuring system itself is that it fails the most important criterion of a sample: it is not random in the statistical sense of the word. A small fraction of the population is selected and only those that actually accept are used as the sample size. In many local areas of the 1990s, the difference between a rating that kept a show on the air and one that would cancel it was so small as to be statistically insignificant, and yet the show that just happened to get the higher rating would survive.[11] And yet in 2009 of the 114,500,000 U.S. television households[12] only 25,000 total American households (0.02183% of the total) participated in the Nielsen daily metered system.[13] In addition, the Nielsen ratings one TV per household three perhaps four network model encouraged a strong push for demographic measurements. This caused problems with multiple TV households or households where viewers would enter the simpler codes (usually their child's) raising serious questions to the quality of the demographic data.[14] The situation further deteriorated as the popularity of cable TV expanded the number of viewable networks to the point that the margin of error has increased due to the sampling sizes being too small.[15][16] Compounding matters is the fact that of the sample data that is collected, advertisers will not pay for time shifted (recorded for replay at a different time) programs,[17] rendering the 'raw' numbers useless.

A related criticism of the Nielsen ratings system is its lack of a system for measuring television audiences in environments outside the home, such as college dormitories, transport terminals, bars, and other public places where television is frequently viewed, often by large numbers of people in a common setting. In 2005, Nielsen announced plans to incorporate viewing by away-from-home college students into its sample. Internet TV viewing is another rapidly growing market for which Nielsen Ratings fail to account for viewer impact. Apple iTunes, atomfilms, Hulu, YouTube, and some of the networks' own websites (e.g., ABC.com, CBS.com) provide full-length web-based programming, either subscription-based or ad-supported. Though web sites can already track popularity of a site and the referring page, they can't track viewer demographics. To both track this and expand their market research offerings, Nielsen purchased NetRatings in 2007.[18]
 
Don't get me wrong. I'm not arguing that it's a good system, it's just not as pathetic as it used to be.
Networks don't want true numbers because they would have to cut back on how much they charge advertisers. Advertisers don't trust the accurate numbers because they feel they are too low.
 
Queen of Spades said:
America's ratings and network system blows - the only evidence you need is the dominance of the moronic, juvenile Two and a Half Men.

Amen to that. That show is utter garbage. I'm almost embarrassed for Neil Patrick Harris.

Neil Patrick Harris isn't on Two and Half Men, that's Charlie Sheen. NPH is on How I Met Your Mother, which is my favorite sitcom probably ever.

I agree that the US system sucks. They cancel shows before they even have a chance to gain a following. Some shows are canceled within just a couple of episodes. There's no way you can judge the success of a show on the first couple of episodes.

The other thing that drives me absolutely crazy about how the US networks air shows is how they do their "sweeps". There will be a few new episodes in the fall, then a couple of weeks of reruns, then maybe one new episode, then another two weeks of reruns, then four new episodes, then a few weeks of reruns, and it continues until the end of the season. Sometimes it seems you only get one new episode a month. It sucks to try to follow a show that way. They're only encouraging pirating at that point.
 
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I actually work for Nielsen TV Ratings. It's a lot more accurate than you'd believe. The system we use and the demographic information we collect now does accurately account for viewers and the shows they watch.
 
It winds me up too. I started (and finished, rather swiftly) watching FireFly some time last year. I thought it was great and didn't know that it was cancelled until it came to hunting down the series 2 DVD... :(
LOST ended on it's own accord and that was just phenomenal.

I guess it also happens in the UK. My family, friends and I were really into Survivors but they cancelled that and replaced it with Outcasts, which turned out to be a gargantuan flop. But they left both shows without an ending and as bad as Outcasts was, I wanted to see how it ended.
 
Neil Patrick Harris isn't on Two and Half Men, that's Charlie Sheen. NPH is on How I Met Your Mother, which is my favorite sitcom probably ever.
Oops. Oh well, I don't like either anyway.

The other thing that drives me absolutely crazy about how the US networks air shows is how they do their "sweeps". There will be a few new episodes in the fall, then a couple of weeks of reruns, then maybe one new episode, then another two weeks of reruns, then four new episodes, then a few weeks of reruns, and it continues until the end of the season. Sometimes it seems you only get one new episode a month. It sucks to try to follow a show that way. They're only encouraging pirating at that point.
It's not quite that bad for most shows but it does suck because they tend to do that near the end of a season with only 2 or 3 shows left. Most cable networks don't do this mind you. It's really only the top over the air broadcasters like ABC, CBS, NBC, etc.

It winds me up too. I started (and finished, rather swiftly) watching FireFly some time last year. I thought it was great and didn't know that it was cancelled until it came to hunting down the series 2 DVD... :(
LOST ended on it's own accord and that was just phenomenal.
Network heads are idiots. It's the only explanation as FireFly has a massive cult following still and is generally known as one of the better Sci-Fi shows to come out in recent years. Heck, they almost cancelled Battlestar Galactica in season 4 (hence 4.5) and it's probably one of the best Sci-Fi shows in history.
 
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