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Why do we still lack true multi-tasking?

DShap5 said:
Most Android users probably have multitasking running and the battery seems to work just fine. It did with me at least and I haven't heard complaints about it. Not that I want to ditch my iPhone, but it is incorrect to make it sound like multitasking has ruined every Android's battery life.
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I'm not saying that. What I am saying is that multitasking puts higher demands on batteries, and if it's not carefully regulated, battery life will suffer needlessly. You have to remember that battery capacity is very much linked to battery size, and many Android phones are much larger than iPhones. You can't simply compare a big phone's big battery to a smaller phone with a smaller battery. You have to compare apples to apples. So compare any given phone's battery life using the Android approach to multitasking to the same phone using the iOS approach to multitasking. With the larger iPhones that are rumored to be coming out, you may see either dramatically increased battery life, or more multitasking, or a combination/compromise between the two.
 
GGJstudios said:
I'm not saying that. What I am saying is that multitasking puts higher demands on batteries, and if it's not carefully regulated, battery life will suffer needlessly. You have to remember that battery capacity is very much linked to battery size, and many Android phones are much larger than iPhones. You can't simply compare a big phone's big battery to a smaller phone with a smaller battery. You have to compare apples to apples. So compare any given phone's battery life using the Android approach to multitasking to the same phone using the iOS approach to multitasking. With the larger iPhones that are rumored to be coming out, you may see either dramatically increased battery life, or more multitasking, or a combination/compromise between the two.
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Let us compare iPad and Nexus 7. I do not complain for both devices. My Nexus 7 battery is just fine for all the thing I throw at it and the battery last me full day. I am very happy with iPad battery life as well.
 
ErikGrim said:
So actually for battery life, the iPhone is doing quite well for its category. Show me the battery life for an Android phone that’s the same size and specs as an iPhone and we’ll talk.
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You mean the iPhone is doing quite well with the advantage of pushing a fraction of the pixels on a much smaller display.
 
Coupz said:
Pretty bad if you ask me and consider, that some of these phones have more then double the capacity and not double the screen size. Next time, come with a realistic test and not some random tests from Anandtech.
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I think we can all chill about the graph...
 
Badrottie said:
Android is a true multitasking OS? No? BB10? Sybian? :apple:
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All of them are. As is iOS when JB'n and used together with tools like OS Experience / Quasar (full windowing environments), Backgrounder / Background Manager ("simple" keep-alive-in-background tools).
 
DShap5 said:
I'm just wondering, is there some bigger picture I'm not seeing here? Yeah, they'd have to boost the RAM and work on the battery some, but these should both be things they can do...
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Why would a corporation provide a feature that most of their customers don't care about and cost themselves money via increased RAM and bigger battery needed?
 
Technarchy said:
You mean the iPhone is doing quite well with the advantage of pushing a fraction of the pixels on a much smaller display.
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Smaller screen/phone generally also means smaller battery. It's half the capacity of the LG G2 for example, a phone noted for its good battery life. So, swings and roundabouts, kinda.
 
Technarchy said:
Have you?



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Even though these devices may get longer browse time, they do have substantially larger batteries given their bigger size. If all things were equal, screen size, battery size, and ram, the iPhones are the most efficient. I'm excited to see when the iphone 6 comes out, with the larger screen size, how much more capacity the battery will have
 
ErikGrim said:
Bigger phone = bigger battery

If we divide the battery life by weight, the iPhone comes out on top:

M8 = 0.067 hr/g
LG2 = 0.071 hr/g
S5 = 0.072 hr/g
5S = 0.089 hr/g

So actually for battery life, the iPhone is doing quite well for its category. Show me the battery life for an Android phone that’s the same size and specs as an iPhone and we’ll talk.
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Thanks for the breakdown. This guy doesn't get it. My iPhone 5s fits in my pants pocket. Most high end android phones that either match or exceed the 5s's battery life require the use of at the very least a fanny pack. Its a shame how the obvious slips ones mind.
 
So what is this "true" multitasking you speak of? I have an S5 in front of me right now - I open the timer app, open something else and go to the task switcher - the timer is paused until I open it again (Just like on iOS) The app isn't physically running anymore - it is paused until I open it again.

Are you talking about physically deciding which apps to keep open? Because Android automatically kills things if they are unused or haven't been opened in a while just like iOS does to make sure there is free memory for opening new apps.

I am just trying to think of a situation in which iOS doesn't allow me to do the things that I want simultaneously (The only cases I can think of are downloads in an app that didn't implement background downloads.)
 
A lot of people just don't realize just how good the iOS crowd has it. The general public is just not satisfied with things "just working". So people, trust when i say this. This is as good as it gets. And this is coming from a windows pocket pc vet. Honestly there is no difference between the old pocket pc platform and android.
 
ProphetX said:
A lot of people just don't realize just how good the iOS crowd has it. The general public is just not satisfied with things "just working". So people, trust when i say this. This is as good as it gets. And this is coming from a windows pocket pc vet. Honestly there is no difference between the old pocket pc platform and android.
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I don't know how a "Windows PocketPC vet" can claim that. (maybe you have a narrow scope of what you are comparing)
 
sracer said:
I don't know how a "Windows PocketPC vet" can claim that. (maybe you have a narrow scope of what you are comparing)
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Your kidding me right? Take a trip to the xda forums and look at the archives. We've doing just about everything android has been doing for years. Terrible battery life included.
 
DShap5 said:
Yes, I understand we have the app switcher, but what I'm talking about is true multi-tasking. Apps running in the background thing.



Why don't we have it yet?! I honestly don't understand. It's been about six years since iOS was first introduced... I was hoping so badly they would bring it to iOS 8, though I understand that would leave out a few more devices in the update. It seems the main thing you need is more RAM and that's not too difficult to throw in there, so what is it that keeps Apple from implementing this? In my opinion, it's something that every smartphone and tablet ought to be able to do...
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Because people will start bitching about battery life.
 
jclardy said:
So what is this "true" multitasking you speak of? I have an S5 in front of me right now - I open the timer app, open something else and go to the task switcher - the timer is paused until I open it again (Just like on iOS) The app isn't physically running anymore - it is paused until I open it again.

Are you talking about physically deciding which apps to keep open? Because Android automatically kills things if they are unused or haven't been opened in a while just like iOS does to make sure there is free memory for opening new apps.

I am just trying to think of a situation in which iOS doesn't allow me to do the things that I want simultaneously (The only cases I can think of are downloads in an app that didn't implement background downloads.)
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Yeah, mostly internet stuff. It usually gets cut right when you go to another app. Now I understand this is a a good thing for battery life, but it would be nice if it didn't do it right away, maybe waited two or three minutes first... idk.

rrares1996 said:
Because people will start bitching about battery life.
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Yes, so I've heard... in the previous 44 posts. ;)
 
I have to agree with Techarnarchy.

Yes the batteries are larger on the Android phones but that's really not the point. iOS should have true multitasking and Apple should just use a larger battery. I don't care how large the battery is as long as the features and battery life is there.

The Samsung Galaxy Notes and the G series from LG can oulast the iPhone by a mile.
 
DShap5 said:
Yes, I understand we have the app switcher, but what I'm talking about is true multi-tasking. Apps running in the background thing.

Why don't we have it yet?! I honestly don't understand. It's been about six years since iOS was first introduced... I was hoping so badly they would bring it to iOS 8, though I understand that would leave out a few more devices in the update. It seems the main thing you need is more RAM and that's not too difficult to throw in there, so what is it that keeps Apple from implementing this? In my opinion, it's something that every smartphone and tablet ought to be able to do...
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Let me ask you, why do you want "true" multitasking? What does that look like? How will that benefit you? Or are you just looking for another "feature" to check off.
 
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