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Where have you been the last couple of months? Probably with your Apple Glasses on, most likely.
I won’t even argue with you anymore, you signed the AFB form right now with that claim. :eek:
Hmm. I'm not a sycophant, unlike others married to android, by any means, but at least I don't automatically find apple guilty, again, unlike others who have no objectivity.
The point isn’t whether a label is there or not. Where is it stated that inserting it wrong will destroy the CPU?
My instructions say that as well has have a picture in the instructions and the motherboard. Maybe AMD doesn't do that, but intel does.

The weaker structure of the iPhone 6 was also a design flaw as phones were not supposed to bend so easily once sat on. Which is why it got fixed on iPhone 6s.
Weaker compared to what? You cannot prove or disprove apple purposefully designed a weak phone. Only that they designed a phone that some people managed to bend by putting them in their back-pants pocket.

Because there may be people coming from flip phones.

Android is very easy if you use a Pixel. If you buy a Chinese clone that may not be the case.
There may also be people coming from no phone, which IMO, ios is easier to use.
That is no FUD. Apple admitted to doing that in their very own apology letter to their customers.
Apple admitted to no such thing. What they admitted to, was a power management profile, they didn't clarify as much as they should. Shall we go back and examine the exact verbiage?
 
I've used a Pixel 2 for about a year with an iPhone 7 before that. I'm coming back to Apple.

Pixel is better: Google Maps/Android Auto>Apple Maps/Carplay, Google Assistant>Siri, Drive>iCloud, Camera/Photo App (unlimited cloud storage)

iPhone is better: App Store, less buggy (Shamed to say but the Tinder app doesn't work on Android very well), intuitive, far more accurate keyboard for typing, better updates, better hardware, iMessage, Facetime, Music App (Google play app edits my gangster rap!), less Google spyware/malware.
 
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It's her fault for buying a bargain bin Walmart phone. Tell her to get a Pixel or a Note 9. You get what you pay for.
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I own an iPhone 6,6s and 7 Plus and iPhone X. Apart from the iPhone X every single iPhone slows down every year. This year iOS 12 sped up the phones but that's more due to the fact that iOS 11 was the most horrible release in the history of iOS. The 6s is used by my mom but she doesn't complain much about speed, only battery life.
That’s weird. My phone is lag free. Even on crappy iOS 11. Thank goodness for the speed optimization that older device owners will appreciate with iOS 12. The A9, 10, and 11 are all very fast in my experience.
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They are useless to me when I tried out the s8/9/note 9

Bixby + Google Assistant (make up your mind)

6-7 security measures to unlock your phone.. Really? Is that even necessary lol

Themes (makes the phone look horrible IMO)

I do like split screen though lol
I guess you need that many security measures when your OS is prone to spyware and malware.
 
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We’re using spyware and malware for data mining and not for what those terms as defined mean.

FaceID still requires another method for unlocking but no Android unlocks with fingerprint. Pins are needed on both at times to grant rights to make changes to a system.

I use both, it isn’t either/or or that iOS 12 vs Pie 9.0 is inherently better or worse though in the end I would overhaul a lot of iOS

Why I need to use 9.0 Pie also why older versions remain exposed to “spy/malware” actors.

https://threatpost.com/android-os-api-breaking-flaw-offers-up-useful-wifi-data-to-bad-actors/137085/
 
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That’s weird. My phone is lag free. Even on crappy iOS 11. Thank goodness for the speed optimization that older device owners will appreciate with iOS 12. The A9, 10, and 11 are all very fast in my experience.
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I guess you need that many security measures when your OS is prone to spyware and malware.
Family has 5s, 6s, 6s+,7 and X. Nobody complains about lag under ios 11, battery life seems to be more the issue.

IOS 12 seems to be a stake in the ground for the future. I am using ios 12 beta on my 6s and pretty good.
 
Family has 5s, 6s, 6s+,7 and X. Nobody complains about lag under ios 11, battery life seems to be more the issue.

IOS 12 seems to be a stake in the ground for the future. I am using ios 12 beta on my 6s and pretty good.
I agree. My dad has a 6, and just replaced the battery under the Apple battery program for $29. It runs much faster now. Mom has an SE that still runs lightning fast. My 7 Plus has 89% battery according to battery life beta. I plan on spending the $29 before end of year just to give this phone extraaaaa life. I plan on New X Plus, so when that happens, my 7 Plus will goto Mom or dad!
 
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So I saw a deal for the LG G7 for $450. It's so tempting to get one brand new at that price. From what I read, the performance is worse on it than the iPhone X. The 2018 iPhones will have a 10% increase in performance, at least, over the A11 processor.

Should I just wait it out for the iPhone 9, iPhone XS, or a steeply discounted iPhone X? I rather stick to iOS, but I also am very tempted with the features LG puts out. I know fully well that there is a huge chance I can come back to iOS and be dissatisfied with LG.
 
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They are useless to me when I tried out the s8/9/note 9

Bixby + Google Assistant (make up your mind)

6-7 security measures to unlock your phone.. Really? Is that even necessary lol

Themes (makes the phone look horrible IMO)

I do like split screen though lol

Yep, absolutely right, just how a phone should be - it's called "choice". You select the ones you would like to use and switch the other options off.

I know, it's not something iPhone users will be familiar with, but it is a great concept. :)
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No the pins get bent if you even so much as just place it the wrong way. No force necessary as many a amateur system builder has discovered to his peril. If it's Intel you are SOL as the pins are on the motherboard so you can't straighten them out.

What rubbish is this? The CPU has a cut out on the corner, the die has a cut out in the corner, you match them together, job done, how hard can that be?

If a person can't get that right then I question whether they should be allowed out on their own. What an embarrassment.
 
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You are judging Samsung based on a phone that came out 7 years ago?

Try using a 7 year old iphone 4 and tell me its anything like the iphone X.

A lot has happened in 7 years.

I still have a note 2 from that time and it is still a full working phone having most of the latest apps.

iPhone 4 is already a dead phone (even if hardware has no issue). iPhone gets obsoleted faster than android not the other way round.


So I saw a deal for the LG G7 for $450. It's so tempting to get one brand new at that price. From what I read, the performance is worse on it than the iPhone X. The 2018 iPhones will have a 10% increase in performance, at least, over the A11 processor.

Should I just wait it out for the iPhone 9, iPhone XS, or a steeply discounted iPhone X? I rather stick to iOS, but I also am very tempted with the features LG puts out. I know fully well that there is a huge chance I can come back to iOS and be dissatisfied with LG.

Performance from CPU? Now the exisying A11 CPU beats anything Android by a wide margin. But iphone overall performance is still behind. Go figure.
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Hey cool. Maybe i'll look into it sometime in the future. Probably not though, the last Samsung phone I owned ended up thrown at a wall. (Galaxy SII)

Many ifans like you didnt know this :p

In fact, this simple implementation imo is better than the convoluted iPhone continuity/handoff.

Fact is you can do so much more with android. The question is whether you are willing to take up new use cases and have your phone do more for you.
 
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I still have a note 2 from that time and it is still a full working phone having most of the latest apps.

iPhone 4 is already a dead phone (even if hardware has no issue). iPhone gets obsoleted faster than android not the other way round.




Performance from CPU? Now the exisying A11 CPU beats anything Android by a wide margin. But iphone overall performance is still behind. Go figure.
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Many ifans like you didnt know this :p

In fact, this simple implementation imo is better than the convoluted iPhone continuity/handoff.

Fact is you can do so much more with android. The question is whether you are willing to take up new use cases and have your phone do more for you.
The Samsung note 2 was released in 2012, iphone 4 in 2010. My iPhone 4, works as well as a 2010 era phone with most apps up to date. In 2 years tell me how your note 2 is.

Fact is a lot of what can be done on android can be done easier and more securely on iOS.
 
The Samsung note 2 was released in 2012, iphone 4 in 2010. My iPhone 4, works as well as a 2010 era phone with most apps up to date. In 2 years tell me how your note 2 is.

Fact is a lot of what can be done on android can be done easier and more securely on iOS.

My note2 will outlast yours for sure :p
Comes ios12 with forced 64bit apps say bye bye to all the ip4 to 5.

Those old iPhones (like your ip4/s) running ios9 now, they are stuck with old and obsoleted version of apps from long ago.

But my note2 is running the latest apps since app updates in android have been decoupled from o/s updates.
 
My note2 will outlast yours for sure :p
Comes ios12 with forced 64bit apps say bye bye to all the ip4 to 5.

Those old iPhones (like your ip4/s) running ios9 now, they are stuck with old and obsoleted version of apps from long ago.

But my note2 is running the latest apps since app updates in android have been decoupled from o/s updates.
Lol, your note 2 has the latest 32 bit apps, how cute is that. Your note 2 is going to die before my iphone 4. As far as 64 bit, iphone 4 to 5 are 32 bit and those apps will be supported. The policy is to submit 64 bit apps as the guidelines suggest, but 32 bit can be submitted for prior IOS releases as well. So no, you're wrong.
 
Lol, your note 2 has the latest 32 bit apps, how cute is that. Your note 2 is going to die before my iphone 4. As far as 64 bit, iphone 4 to 5 are 32 bit and those apps will be supported. The policy is to submit 64 bit apps as the guidelines suggest, but 32 bit can be submitted for prior IOS releases as well. So no, you're wrong.

How many of core apple apps have been updated for your ip4? None. How many 3rd party developers still deploy updated apps for ios9. Very few. Night and day different. Of course, you can't distinguish between night and day :p hahaha
 
How many of core apple apps have been updated for your ip4? None. How many 3rd party developers still deploy updated apps for ios9. Very few. Night and day different. Of course, you can't distinguish between night and day :p hahaha
Exactly what core apps require updating? Stock app? For every core app there are multiple replacements on the App Store, if that is your thing. Core apps are useful, but the third party apps are more important. I’m surprised your note 2 actually runs, what with the reported android lag. Tough to know night and day, when the clock app doesn’t work. :)
 
I've used iPhone 3G, 4 and 6+. Always worked solidly for me. Guess I was lucky in that I never got a defective unit. I wound up having some issues with the battery on my 6+ and wanted something different. The iPhone 7/8 just seemed like beefed up 6+ so I wanted something completely different. Wound up getting a Note 8. Really nice phone, crisp display and worked really well.

Issues I had with Android were the questionable permissions needed by some apps, the multitude of Samsung bloatware on the Note 8, weird issue where (after updates) random apps would be deleted. My days of rooting and customizing my phone are gone so I really just want something nice that works and is reliable. I also wound up getting a Sony Xperia XZ2 Compact a little bit later on. Wound up selling the Note 8 and going with the XZ2. That thing had SOOOO many issues I sincerely regret getting it. Biggest bug with that phone was the bluetooth connection. Every time I played music or used any bluetooth headphones, the music would cutout for a couple seconds and then play. Did this ever 20-30 seconds and got REALLY irritating. Another irritating thing was screen size of apps. Certain ones would be super tiny and other would be way too big. Made playing some games irritating. Another big factor for me was iTunes/Google Play. I really hate switching back and forth between both systems. iTunes always seemed easier to use for me so back to iTunes once again.

As of now, I'm eagerly waiting for the newest iPhone+ plus model and I'm going back to iPhone. If it's the XS+ or whatever they call it, I'm getting it.
 
How many of core apple apps have been updated for your ip4? None. How many 3rd party developers still deploy updated apps for ios9. Very few. Night and day different. Of course, you can't distinguish between night and day :p hahaha

My gf has iPhone 4 and it runs silky smooth. Yes it is outdated but it works.

My last Android phone, Samsung Galaxy S6, didn’t run as smooth, even after i rooted it and debloated the phone.
Furthermore. iPhones get a much longer OS support then any Android phone.
If your Samsung , LG or what ever brand has issues, you can’t call Google directly for support.
With iPhone, I can call Apple directly and get support with anything and everything Apple product related. If I’m drunk and I feel lonely, I can call Apple CSR and have a great conversation about what ever.
You can’t get that kind of support with Android.

What’s the phone number for Google customer service? I have no idea!! Because I can’t find it using google.com search engine.
 
All this petty squabbling about speed between platforms is tiresome but my point about smartphones not really changing much year to year is demonstrated well in this clip:
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A current android smartphone almost being matched for speed by a two year old device. None of us repeatedly open and close apps in this way but it’s often used to argue the point here. Just goes to show an iPhone 7 is still an excellent buy in 2018. One of the reasons I like the iPhone as performance lasts the duration that I own my device.

Both platforms are more than capable of meeting a general consumers demands. Some people like Android and some like iOS. There is no wrong decision here, it’s purely personal preference.
 
All this petty squabbling about speed between platforms is tiresome but my point about smartphones not really changing much year to year is demonstrated well in this clip:
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A current android smartphone almost being matched for speed by a two year old device. None of us repeatedly open and close apps in this way but it’s often used to argue the point here. Just goes to show an iPhone 7 is still an excellent buy in 2018. One of the reasons I like the iPhone as performance lasts the duration that I own my device.

Both platforms are more than capable of meeting a general consumers demands. Some people like Android and some like iOS. There is no wrong decision here, it’s purely personal preference.
Because at this point CPU power has reached its peak on mobile platforms. There is a speed test which shows Note 9 is barely faster than the Note 8 in this speed test. So this is nothing special. The Pixel 2 XL vs Pixel XL also showcases this.
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Hmm. I'm not a sycophant, unlike others married to android, by any means, but at least I don't automatically find apple guilty, again, unlike others who have no objectivity.

My instructions say that as well has have a picture in the instructions and the motherboard. Maybe AMD doesn't do that, but intel does.

I checked my manual and it only says in the CPU installation part that Asus does not cover incorrect CPU installation in warranty. My question is where is it stated that inserting the CPU wrong will damage it beyond repair.

Weaker compared to what? You cannot prove or disprove apple purposefully designed a weak phone. Only that they designed a phone that some people managed to bend by putting them in their back-pants pocket.

Seems straightforward to me. Phones are not meant to be sat on. Apple's phone was weaker than usual and it bent. Similarly the S Pen was not mean to be inserted in reverse. It got wrecked when people tried to. And from experience from using the Pen and its shape let me assure you that the only way you can insert it wrong is if you tried to.


There may also be people coming from no phone, which IMO, ios is easier to use.

I have used pure Android and iOS. My observations. After the setup screen iOS is a grid of icons. Android shows a desktop with icons full of customisation possibilities. There is absolutely no difference. I would argue ios is unintuitive in many ways like how turning off Bluetooth doesn't actually turn it off and file management for someone used to a file system is a total disaster. Android is also unintuitive in the system permissions part and battery health.

Apple admitted to no such thing. What they admitted to, was a power management profile, they didn't clarify as much as they should. Shall we go back and examine the exact verbiage?

You/Apple can call it whatever you want to call it. That doesn't change the bottom line. Substance over from. They throttled the phone secretly as was showcased by Geekbench. No one was informed he meaning of power management. Apple has some nerve slowing down $800 products in just 2 years.
 
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Because at this point CPU power has reached its peak on mobile platforms. There is a speed test which shows Note 9 is barely faster than the Note 8 in this speed test. So this is nothing special. The Pixel 2 XL vs Pixel XL also showcases this.
The processors in phones are now more powerful than anything we would ever use a mobile phone for. We get all of these improved processors each year but the power is wasted as we still do the same things we did 6/7 years ago.
 
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Because at this point CPU power has reached its peak on mobile platforms. There is a speed test which shows Note 9 is barely faster than the Note 8 in this speed test. So this is nothing special. The Pixel 2 XL vs Pixel XL also showcases this.
Indeed, but the amount of scrutiny I see here and on other threads when smartphones are being ridiculed for opening apps fractions of a seconds slower is laughable. It’s purely because it’s a platform not to the commenters preference in most cases.

My 6S is slow at times on iOS 11 where it’ll occasionally take a few seconds to load an app (Instagram usually), but overall it’s a fluid device. In day to day use unless anybody is directly comparing side by side or irrationally impatient over 0.7 second intervals, I don’t think there is a huge amount of performance difference year on year. This is the key reason upgrades are down and less new smartphones are being sold in comparison to 3 or 4 years ago.
 
Aesthetically it's much more pleasing.
It's intuitive and not as buggy as Android.
It interacts with other Apple OS's perfectly.
 
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The Samsung note 2 was released in 2012, iphone 4 in 2010. My iPhone 4, works as well as a 2010 era phone with most apps up to date. In 2 years tell me how your note 2 is.

Fact is a lot of what can be done on android can be done easier and more securely on iOS.
My mum still used her iPhone 4 up until last year.
 
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My eldest daughter still uses an iPhone 4 lol.
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I checked my manual and it only says in the CPU installation part that Asus does not cover incorrect CPU installation in warranty. My question is where is it stated that inserting the CPU wrong will damage it beyond repair.
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/support/us/en/documents/processors/sb/e44543001_bloomfieldxe.pdf

Seems straightforward to me. Phones are not meant to be sat on. Apple's phone was weaker than usual and it bent. Similarly the S Pen was not mean to be inserted in reverse. It got wrecked when people tried to. And from experience from using the Pen and its shape let me assure you that the only way you can insert it wrong is if you tried to.
Seems straightforward that no matter how strong apple made a phone, some individual(s) could find a way to bend or break it. The s-pen is not similar to the phone in any way shape or form as it just slipped in the holding cradle with nary a care, and damaging the phone. The two are false equivalencies.

People ruined their phone and Samsung actually issued an engineering fix, so there's that.

I have used pure Android and iOS. My observations. After the setup screen iOS is a grid of icons. Android shows a desktop with icons full of customisation possibilities. There is absolutely no difference. I would argue ios is unintuitive in many ways like how turning off Bluetooth doesn't actually turn it off and file management for someone used to a file system is a total disaster. Android is also unintuitive in the system permissions part and battery health.
Bluetooth is a bad example because after the dust settled, I like control center 2.0 better than 1.0. But I do agree without a keyboard and limited screen real estate, sometimes a manual is needed.

You/Apple can call it whatever you want to call it. That doesn't change the bottom line. Substance over from. They throttled the phone secretly as was showcased by Geekbench. No one was informed he meaning of power management. Apple has some nerve slowing down $800 products in just 2 years.
Well in that vein, you and rest of you guys can believe the hyperbole about it. But the truth is it's a power management profile and nothing else. And by the way, wasn't it you who said, benchmarks can be fixed? Or is it only benchmarks that show Apple doesn't slow down phones with succeeding IOS releases? But geekbench must be on the mark? Right? Or was it fixed to have some proof to start a lawsuit. Conspiracy theory, just like planned obsolescence?

Not only did apple tell you about power management, they gave you a way to control it, should one desire to.
 
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