Why do you use powerpc, over similarly priced comps?

[MagicBoy]

I bought a Dell laptop from the Outlet that came with Me. First thing I did was to boot up from a Windows 2000 Professional CD, repartition it and then install a proper operating system.

Luckily I left my job at a Computer retailer a few months before Me came out. Awful OS, 98SE was much more stable.

 

[weckart]

"It looks like you are writing a letter..."


ARGH!

A bit of gloating will cure that. Fire up this golden oldie and run "Word" from the program menu. Needs or needed Flash so best run on newer hardware.

 

[ptdebate]

LOL, I actually bought ME at retail when it was in stores.

Used it on a PC laptop I got as a graduation gift in 1999, but I don't recall what you mention. I tend to skip all that crap whenever it pops up though so I probably killed it - without realizing it.

I never understood the bad rap ME got though. It performed considerably faster and more efficiently on the laptop I had it on then Win98 ever did and it had more features and rarely if ever crashed on me. With that said, I didn't use the laptop then like I use my Macs now.

I remember it being very sluggish and crash-prone, but that could be in part due to the bargain-bin Pentium III we were running it on.

 

[bunnspecial]

I think it's interesting to compare Windows ME to Mac OS 9.

Although they are quite different, they both historically fall at about the point in each respective company's history. They were released about the same time. Windows ME represented the final incarnation of DOS-based Windows, while OS 9 was the end of the line for the "Classic" Mac OS. All future Windows development was NT based, while all future Mac OS development was in OS X.

That's where the similarities end, though. ME is often the butt of jokes, while many folks still hold OS 9 in high regard.

As for myself-at the time my Dad was a Microsoft "Action Pack" subscriber(I think that's what it's called) and basically got a binder every few months with CDs for about every current MS product. He had no interested in Win2K, so I installed the Beta version they sent him and used it for a while then upgraded to the full release when that came in.

Around the same time, he upgraded his computer to Windows ME, and had no end of trouble with it. At the time, his tax software(he ran a tax preparation business from home for a long time) wouldn't run on 2000 but would run on ME, so that's what he used. I think at one point he even downgraded to 98SE because ME gave him so many fits.

I briefly dual-booted ME and 2000, but liked 2000 a lot better and stuck with it. 2000 really never gave me any issues at the time.

We both upgraded to XP when it came out and never looked back.

BTW, even though I had no issues Win2K at the time, I still use it regularly as we have an instrument computer in the lab that is still running it. I needed to get some data off of it the other day, and had a terrible time getting a flash drive that was readable in it. It seemed to object to the fact that the drive I was using had ever even been in a Mac despite the fact that it was formatted FAT32/MBR. I ended up having to format it in a Windows 7 computer, but was only able to get 200mb of the 8gb on the drive. Desperate times call for desperate measures, and when I'm dealing with 20kb .CSV files(spreadsheet ASCII) 200mb is plenty of space.

 

[roadbloc]

The issue with ME was that Microsoft (in all their glorious wisdom,) decided that the future of their consumer DOS based OS was to remove access to the DOS bit it was based on. This resulted in a confusing mess of an OS that didn't even have a solid bed to lay on. You'd have trouble getting it to boot, getting it to run apps and getting it to shutdown.

Weirdly, my OS 9 experiences have all been bad too. Many times I had a lengthy iPod Sync experience made even longer because some background app **** itself and took down the entire machine. Was frustrating to say the least.

 

[MatthewLTL]

What's wrong with Office 2001 then? I suppose it's all relative, depending on what generation of software you want to live in.

I prefer 2004 over 2008 and wish I never upgraded. In fact, I miss the 2001 paperclip/mac/wizard/butler/dog/old man/etc animated assistant.

nothing is wrong with any version of office, I learned OS X on Panther and am used to Office 2004. It's what i learned on.

 

[MatthewLTL]

LOL, I actually bought ME at retail when it was in stores.

Used it on a PC laptop I got as a graduation gift in 1999, but I don't recall what you mention. I tend to skip all that crap whenever it pops up though so I probably killed it - without realizing it.

I never understood the bad rap ME got though. It performed considerably faster and more efficiently on the laptop I had it on then Win98 ever did and it had more features and rarely if ever crashed on me. With that said, I didn't use the laptop then like I use my Macs now.

I bought a Windows ME Upgrade CD second hand, It worked wonders on old-as-hell windows 95 era Packard Bells.

Was anyone else unfortunate enough to use Windows ME? There was a supremely annoying little 3D character that occasionally popped up to "help." Not just with documents, though--with everything.

My 1st computer that had internet access was Windows Me back then i was 12 years old and my mom bought a Gateway, On THAT particular computer ME was HORRIBLE crashed, froze, BSOD'd CONSTANTLY HORRID OS.

I bought a Dell laptop from the Outlet that came with Me. First thing I did was to boot up from a Windows 2000 Professional CD, repartition it and then install a proper operating system.

Luckily I left my job at a Computer retailer a few months before Me came out. Awful OS, 98SE was much more stable.

Window ME ACTUALLY ran better on newer hardware. I once installed Windows ME (using a Windows 98 boot floppy because it was a upgrade disc) on a 2005 Compaq system it ran amazingly not a single problem, EXCEPT for by 2005 nothing supported the OS anymore and it was rendered useless.

I remember it being very sluggish and crash-prone, but that could be in part due to the bargain-bin Pentium III we were running it on.

All i know about when I was running it is that it was on a Celeron processor and 128MB RAM. I bought a IBM ThinkPad T600x it has Windows ME on it, Although i immedietely wiped it for a Windows 2000 because when i got it Me was useless i never had a problem with it.

I think it's interesting to compare Windows ME to Mac OS 9.

Although they are quite different, they both historically fall at about the point in each respective company's history. They were released about the same time. Windows ME represented the final incarnation of DOS-based Windows, while OS 9 was the end of the line for the "Classic" Mac OS. All future Windows development was NT based, while all future Mac OS development was in OS X.

That's where the similarities end, though. ME is often the butt of jokes, while many folks still hold OS 9 in high regard.

As for myself-at the time my Dad was a Microsoft "Action Pack" subscriber(I think that's what it's called) and basically got a binder every few months with CDs for about every current MS product. He had no interested in Win2K, so I installed the Beta version they sent him and used it for a while then upgraded to the full release when that came in.

Around the same time, he upgraded his computer to Windows ME, and had no end of trouble with it. At the time, his tax software(he ran a tax preparation business from home for a long time) wouldn't run on 2000 but would run on ME, so that's what he used. I think at one point he even downgraded to 98SE because ME gave him so many fits.

I briefly dual-booted ME and 2000, but liked 2000 a lot better and stuck with it. 2000 really never gave me any issues at the time.

We both upgraded to XP when it came out and never looked back.

BTW, even though I had no issues Win2K at the time, I still use it regularly as we have an instrument computer in the lab that is still running it. I needed to get some data off of it the other day, and had a terrible time getting a flash drive that was readable in it. It seemed to object to the fact that the drive I was using had ever even been in a Mac despite the fact that it was formatted FAT32/MBR. I ended up having to format it in a Windows 7 computer, but was only able to get 200mb of the 8gb on the drive. Desperate times call for desperate measures, and when I'm dealing with 20kb .CSV files(spreadsheet ASCII) 200mb is plenty of space.

I always HATED XP too damn slow nothing but viruses and i was sick of reinstalling the OS every month (no lie) When i bought my XP computer back in 2005 it crashed 15 days later a friend at school gave me a copy of RedHat to run and man it ran they system BEAUTIFULLY no issues at all. Eventually he gave my a *Pirated* :sigh: copy of Windows 2000, Used that ever since. I used Windows 2000 on every computer, even by 2006 Compaq laptop and even ran it on my 2008 DELL laptop its the best windows OS ever designed and just like PPC, using the BWC modified Kernel i can run up to firefox 24 on it (Firefox 31 never worked) It even installes flash 15 perfectly. EVERY SINGLE THING i do on a computer 2000 can still do it in 2015. Perhaps now that Windows 2000 is abandonware ill work on it with nLite and make the ultimate 2000 CD (I already have one made modified for my DELL LAPTOP) with the exception of the Rioch card reader drivers making the OS BSOD on boot, 2000 works flawlessly.

The issue with ME was that Microsoft (in all their glorious wisdom,) decided that the future of their consumer DOS based OS was to remove access to the DOS bit it was based on. This resulted in a confusing mess of an OS that didn't even have a solid bed to lay on. You'd have trouble getting it to boot, getting it to run apps and getting it to shutdown.

Weirdly, my OS 9 experiences have all been bad too. Many times I had a lengthy iPod Sync experience made even longer because some background app **** itself and took down the entire machine. Was frustrating to say the least.

Assuming ME didnt crash and lock up (rarely) it would boot, shut down and restart fine.

 

[tevion5]

2X 1.25GHz combined is 2.50GHz

Just because you have two planes flying adjacent at Mach 0.6, does mean you have collectively broken the sound barrier.

Think of having two cargo trains that have a top speed of 125 Kph. This is not the same as having 1 train that has a top speed of 250 Kph.

So let's say you wanted to transport a high load of cargo that would have to be split into both trains filling then up (eg. Rendering video). Then in this case the two slower trains is useful.

But what if I only want to transport 3 people from A to B? (Eg. Play a FPS). The load isn't going to fill even one train, so multiple trains are useless. Here, the higher speed matters.

 

[Zotaccian]

Just yesterday I received the machine in my sig and I have to say it's difficult to find spesific use for it. If I would have any Classic apps which I need to run then that would be it, but I don't. I play mostly retrogames and while I haven't tried I assume this has enough horse power for them, but of course so do my other machines. The machine has very good battery which is a big plus and plays DVD's just fine, haven't tried any DivX etc. clips.

Tried surfing the internet, very slow as expected. Processor is also too weak for YouTube even with YouView app, I guess that the lack of Altivec or something is too much, PM G4 733MHz played videos fine but it also had better graphics card (Radeon 8500) which might have something to do with it...

 

[MagicBoy]

PM G4 733MHz played videos fine but it also had better graphics card (Radeon 8500) which might have something to do with it...

No. Graphics card has very little to do with it.

 

[bunnspecial]

A bit of gloating will cure that. Fire up this golden oldie and run "Word" from the program menu. Needs or needed Flash so best run on newer hardware.

I just saw this and visited the site.

It just about has me rolling on the floor-particularly with the dozen pop-ups about "Windows.dll" not being found and not being able to delete explorer.exe(with the dialog box that won't go away).

It's funny how we just accepted all that kind of stuff back then.