Why does apple need our info?

Discussion in 'Apple, Inc and Tech Industry' started by crazycat, Nov 14, 2007.

  1. crazycat macrumors 65816

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    I find it strange that apple wants our info when installing OS X. It always bothered me that i have to fill the fields in even thou i do not want to, every other company offers a way for you to skip this but not apple.

    I do not mind giving my info but i should not have to if i do not want, and yes i know i can just put random stuff in the fields. Even then apple corrects you, for example if you put a random phone number or not fill in the first box apples corrects you.

    Does anyone else feel this way?
     
  2. synth3tik macrumors 68040

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  3. PlaceofDis macrumors Core

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    also, after entering that info an address book entry is automatically made containing it, and marking it as the user. its a bit annoying, i agree.
     
  4. neoserver macrumors 6502

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    If you're worried about apple getting the info, just disconnect your internet connection while installing.

    It'll be unable to send, and then you just pick "Send later." Then proceed to delete the alias that is created in your home folder.
     
  5. flyinmac macrumors 68030

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    You do realize that you have already most likely provided them with all that information anyway.

    If you purchased it directly from Apple, then you already gave them your name, your e-mail address, your mailing address, and your telephone number. Additionally, you gave them your credit card number.

    So, if you're the paranoid type, then make sure you only buy your software at the local store. Make sure you pay cash. And, make sure you wear your dark glasses, funny black hat, bushy mustache, and buck teeth (after-all, they might have cameras with facial recognition).

    Even Steve has a disguise that allows him to make anonymous purchases at the Microsoft store:

    [​IMG]

    But, yes, as mentioned previously, disconnecting your Internet connection or Ethernet cable during installation is effective in preventing the registration.

    Of course, then you also don't get your six free issues of Mac World magazine (or 3 issues of Mac Life).

    I actually like just giving it my e-mail address and letting it fill in the rest of the information for me from the database they already have from my purchase. Saves me some time.
     
  6. MisterMe macrumors G4

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    No. If he puts aluminum foil on his head, then he will be fine.
     
  7. neoserver macrumors 6502

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    well that's a given ;)
     
  8. crazycat thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I am not paranoid at all, but i find it annoying and nothing more.

    I could also drive 10 miles in the middle of the desert and install it there, unless they have a underground military base were they trade technologies with aliens at that exact same spot i am at :eek:
     
  9. Blah64 macrumors member

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    Yes, and more people -should- feel offended.

    Wow. Unlike some of the smart asses ("it's called product registration"), let me wholeheartedly agree with you.

    If mr. "synth3tik" (ooh, that's really clever spelling) wants to register his computer, hey no problem, go for it. I'm not going to stop you. But don't ridicule others for posing a very good question.

    Apple's registration is despicable, in that it preys on those who don't know enough about their computer to avoid registering if they don't want to. The software goes to special pains to force you to enter valid data, when doing otherwise is a pretty obvious clue you'd rather not give it out. Then it stores your data until you have an internet connection, whereby it gets sent to Apple.

    As for why they need it, which was your original question, they don't. Plain and simple. Unless you want AppleCare, or some other service, they don't need a thing from you except payment. However, the question you may be asking is why they -want- it, and that's easy. They want to be able to market directly to you. They want your business, and don't want to share you with any other retailer/reseller. They make much more money when you buy a computer via the online store or one of the company retail stores, rather than through Best Buy or a local retailer.

    There is an entire industry built around the gathering of personal information and preferences of consumers. I don't know to what extent Apple participates in gathering or distribution of this information, but most large companies do. The depth is appalling, and it only seems to be getting worse because most people don't seem to care and/or are too lazy to actually take the effort to at least avoid the easy stuff.

    As for the tinhat comments, was there a point? Other than looking like a smartass? The guy asked a very reasonable and polite question. No one should be forced to register any purchase if they don't want to.
     
  10. Persifleur macrumors member

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    It's not obvious, but you can skip registration by pressing cmd-Q.
     
  11. Blah64 macrumors member

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    Are you quite sure about this? If so, then it's a new "feature".

    In older versions of the OS there was no way to get out at all, short of a hard physical restart, which of course brought you to the registration screen again.
     
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  13. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    I suggest you read the OP again. He not complaining about force Product registration. There is a difference and I agree with him it an invasion of privacy on apples part. It is a matter of principal. I general register my products but some times I do not and just say ask me later (or never all all). I had never noticed it before but now when I go update TigerI will be very tempted to enter a bunch of bogus information because I think it is crap Apple is forcing you to give them private info that they will use for direct marketing. Very M$ of them.
     
  14. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

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    It's been there since at least Tiger. And I am very sure about this, having just revised the process yesterday on an Apple-certified training course on a machine with Tiger.
     
  15. mduser63 macrumors 68040

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    Yep definitely in Tiger and I think Panther had it too.
     
  16. flyinmac macrumors 68030

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    Pretty sure it was in Panther as well. I remember accidentally getting past the registration screen and then looking for a way to start it over again.

    Gotta watch those accidental keystrokes. In my case, I think it was a single key I pressed to accidentally get out. Or, was it the cancel button. Either way, it let me out when I didn't want out.

    I think the routine has always had an out in OS X. It's just that it's not printed on the screen.

    A quick google search shows it has been around for a while (since the pages are old pages with dates of 2005 and prior).
     
  17. MisterMe macrumors G4

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    IIRC, every version of MacOS/MacOS X allowed you to easily exit the registration process.
     
  18. MacsRgr8 macrumors 604

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    Yep.

    You might not believe this but I just recently installed Mac OS X 10.0, Mac OS X 10.1, and Mac OS X 10.2 and my Power Mac G4 Cube..... (so cute to see these older versions running again...) and IIRC you could skip all registrations by pressing COMMAND - Q.
     
  19. crazycat thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I tested it myself i can confirm that if you click the apple key + Q you will exit the product registration (if you are willing to call it that).
     
  20. Draddy macrumors regular

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    It will always be the apple key and not the command key as long as there is an Apple and not "command" on my computer. :eek:
     

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