Why does each iPhone os beta get worse?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by mmoran27, Apr 29, 2009.

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  1. mmoran27 macrumors 6502

    Oct 23, 2006
    1st beta sucked balls and was barely usable. The second beta was actually usable. Third beta sucked again. 4th beta also sucks. At this pace they will deliver a pice of crap in June. Why can't you force quit apps? Seriously. WTF. Buggiest software with no way to kill the app. Brilliant. It used to work if you held the home button. Now I have to reboot every time the dialer app loses it's fraking dial button. Brilliant!
  2. PoitNarf macrumors 65816


    May 28, 2007
    Northern NJ
    Betas are designed to shake out the bugs in the software. You expected this stuff to be rock solid by now? They've probably got around another 2 months to work on 3.0 further. This is why this is not a public beta, so most normal users wouldn't be subject to software that is this buggy. This is also why Apple tells developers that they shouldn't install the beta OS on anything else than a purely development device.

    I was part of the enterprise beta with 2.0, and as a result of some of the problems I experienced with that beta I am not even bothering installing 3.0 even though I am a registered developer.
  3. Dr. Cabrera macrumors 65816

    Aug 25, 2008
    Los Angeles
    because it's not finished yet , they call it Beta for a reason

  4. Gathomblipoob macrumors 601


    Mar 18, 2009
    What the hell are you moaning about?! It's a beta.
  5. cwwilson macrumors 65816


    Jan 27, 2009
    Oklahoma City, OK
    Anyone who is complaining about the Beta shouldn't even have it.
  6. aristobrat macrumors G5

    Oct 14, 2005
    Doesn't holding the HOME button for like 5 seconds (until the app disappears) force quit it?
  7. Andrmgic macrumors 6502a

    Jun 27, 2007
    Not in 3.0.. at least, not currently.

    Edit: b3 was better for me than b4 is so far.. I've had some bluetooth issues and sluggish response issues in b4 that weren't there previously. However, this is a beta.. I knew that when I put it on my phone.. so I'm going to tough it out.
  8. Aaleck macrumors 6502a


    Oct 11, 2007
    Michigan, USA
    I'll be the 10 millionith person to say it...

  9. SilentPanda Moderator emeritus


    Oct 8, 2002
    The Bamboo Forest
    b1 and b2 were sluggish but functional for me. b3 sped things up dramatically enough that unless something crazy happens I'll be sticking with b3 until it goes out of beta. My app development is on hold at the moment anyway...
  10. Andrmgic macrumors 6502a

    Jun 27, 2007
    b3 will stop working in 10 days, though.

    I'd think that qualifies as "something crazy"
  11. SilentPanda Moderator emeritus


    Oct 8, 2002
    The Bamboo Forest
    Oh yeah that... argghhh... guess I'll update now... :) Thanks for reminding me.... otherwise I woulda been a sad panda at some random point in 10 days.
  12. dissdnt macrumors 65816


    Aug 3, 2007
    It's BETA. Welcome to the world of software development.
  13. mmoran27 thread starter macrumors 6502

    Oct 23, 2006
    Betas are supposed to get better with each new release
  14. cellocello macrumors 68000


    Jul 31, 2008
    Toronto, ON
    I would assume that each of these betas is "betaing" different parts of the software.

    Just a guess, though.
  15. elfxmilhouse macrumors 6502a

    Oct 15, 2008
    Northeast USA
    ummm...its beta

    there are probably a lot of debugging tools running too. dumping log files for analysis.
  16. matttye macrumors 601

    Mar 25, 2009
    Lincoln, England
    Not strictly true.

    Bug fixes can introduce new bugs, especially in a project as large and complex as an operating system.
  17. jarjarblinks macrumors 6502


    Nov 15, 2008
    I don't know what you are expecting. B4 for me is seamless in operation.

    No app shut downs, minimal lag, snappy toggling between sms's / calls / safari / emailing - If I was sold B4 as the final build I will have thought that its authentic, given how much improvement it has been over B1.
  18. pintnight macrumors 6502

    May 31, 2008
    That is not true. I'm a software developer, something might get changed in one code effect the other code that could make the product/OS unstable.
  19. dejo Moderator


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    Sep 2, 2004
    The Centennial State
    Hmm, sounds like you thought the second was better than the first. So, what does that do to your claim that "each iPhone os beta gets worse"?
  20. John89 macrumors regular

    Dec 23, 2008
    Its a BETA for DEVELOPERS to TEST their applications on and uncover bugs. Its not meant for every day use!!
  21. duky macrumors 6502

    Jun 25, 2007
    North Carolina
    Perhaps you're talking about a very specific part of the beta software (i.e. just the Dialer or just the iPod app)? For me overall each beta has been a huge improvement over the previous)...but each had a glitch of it's own: beta 1 was just very sluggish in general, beta 2 fixed a lot but had the unfortunate crashing of iPod whenever I'd multitask, beta 3 fixed mostly everything then brought up the Dialer issue, and haven't had any problems with beta 4. Looks to me like they're development moves from app to app over time so I'd expect some things to break on each release...
  22. ViPa macrumors 6502a

    Dec 4, 2007
  23. goingblue macrumors member

    Apr 15, 2009
    Ahwatukee, AZ
  24. anjinha macrumors 604


    Oct 21, 2006
    San Francisco, CA
    I'm not sure about this but I think that now you don't need to hold the home button to force quit an app, just clicking it will do it. Every time I get a stuck app, just clicking the home button will get me out of it, holding it won't do anything.
  25. mmoran27 thread starter macrumors 6502

    Oct 23, 2006
    clicking it will get you out of the app

    But next time you try to go back to the app it is still borked.

    This has happened many times with beta 4.

    Safari has the issue where it is just locked on a screen and does not respond to anything. Only a reset fixes it.

    So instead of allowing you to kill misbehaved apps you have to reboot the phone every time. This sucks balls. Especially in a beta OS. So you can't kill buggy apps and have to restart the device. This is brilliant. Give that guy a raise for this brilliant idea!

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