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iPod touch Why does the iPod touch require 10.4.10?

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th equestion is pretty much the title. why do you need 10.4.10 when the latest version of iTunes runs fine on 10.3.9?
 
I've decided to complain to Apple about this. They aren't going to do anything unless we make it clear that many Panther users DO WANT to BUY these iPods, and are upset about this.

Steve Jobs seemed to listen to iPhone owners when they complained, so I say we 10.3 users send in our complaints too.

http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipod.html
 
I suspect that if you wait, you'll find the point where buying 10.4 gets you a free upgrade to Leopard. I can't imagine that offering 10.3x -> 10.4x for free would be a smart marketing move.
 
It's probably using some kind of core service or API in OS X to communicate with the iPhone / iPod Touch OS implementation, that was added to Tiger, and which Apple doesn't particularly feel like adding to Panther. Not saying it couldn't be done. But usually, when software refuses to work on the old OS, there's a legitimate reason regarding some API's availability, rather than just some kind of crass code-out (like those people who prevent you from using anything except IE to view a website).
 
It's about the iPod drivers and the need for iTunes 7.4. I doubt that Apple will release an update to 10.3 as it is considered development dead. Sadly the latest hardware takes the latest software.
 
i guess that they figure if you are still running panther or something before that, its about time to upgrade.
 
EssentialParado said:
His email addresses are public? Are you sure that email address leads somewhere?
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Not exactly - There's people who read email sent to that address for Steve. I'm sure he has another address which isn't public knowledge which he himself reads.

The sjobs@apple.com or steve@apple.com or whatever email addresses are feel good tools for the public. People think they actually have a line directly to the CEO. They really are useful though - the people who read them forward valid requests to the appropriate personnel. I've read a few reports here of people who have sent email to that address to voice a complain (say, problems with a computer, which customer service has been unwilling/unable to help with), and they've had their problems dealt with (for example, in the above example, getting someone from higher up in the customer service department to address and resolve the complaint).
 
Panther came out after XP, but yet that is still supported. So much for 'old technology'. Now if the iPods worked on XP but not Vista, Apple may lose some iPod sales, but gain some Mac sales...
 
its very strange though, you would think itunes is itunes and whatever could run itunes would support he itouch, so maybe its just certain features?
 
PygmySurfer said:
Not exactly - There's people who read email sent to that address for Steve. I'm sure he has another address which isn't public knowledge which he himself reads.

The sjobs@apple.com or steve@apple.com or whatever email addresses are feel good tools for the public. People think they actually have a line directly to the CEO. They really are useful though - the people who read them forward valid requests to the appropriate personnel. I've read a few reports here of people who have sent email to that address to voice a complain (say, problems with a computer, which customer service has been unwilling/unable to help with), and they've had their problems dealt with (for example, in the above example, getting someone from higher up in the customer service department to address and resolve the complaint).
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Cool, thanks for the info. I'm going to resend my complaint to there just to make sure it's seen :]
 
EssentialParado said:
I've decided to complain to Apple about this. They aren't going to do anything unless we make it clear that many Panther users DO WANT to BUY these iPods, and are upset about this.

Steve Jobs seemed to listen to iPhone owners when they complained, so I say we 10.3 users send in our complaints too.

http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipod.html
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That's different. Apple felt the need to take care of the iPhone users because the price dropped dramatically only 2 months after the iPhone was released.
Microsoft has already announced support for XP will be going away very soon. Just wait until DX 10 games start coming out and no XP drivers.

At some point you will have to upgrade in order for new hardware and software to be available to you. Apple is not going to adjust the design of the iPods to accommodate Panther, don't count on it.
 
im shocked that anyone is still running 10.4.9 come on people 10.4 only costs 119 bucks, get with it people
 
HLdan said:
At some point you will have to upgrade in order for new hardware and software to be available to you. Apple is not going to adjust the design of the iPods to accommodate Panther, don't count on it.
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At some point I WILL upgrade. That point being when Leopard releases. Like I said before, I've waited patiently 2 years without Tiger, I'm not going to upgrade to Tiger for 3 weeks so I can blow another $120 on Leopard.
 
mrkramer said:
iTunes 7.4 works perfectly fine on Panther which is why I don't get why the touch will not work on Panther
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There's another thread out there (someone bought a new iPod nano, and its not compatible with Panther), with a whole bunch of reasons. Basically, though, I think it comes down to this: When Apple began designing these new iPods, they expected Leopard would be released in the Spring. Apple usually supports 2 releases, so they were going to support 10.4 and 10.5. As we know, Leopard was delayed.

I don't think there's any technical reason for the non-touch iPods not being supported by Panther, I believe Apple just didn't want to QA 3 platforms. The iPhone is only supported by 10.4 and later, so it makes sense for the iPod touch.
 
this thread reminds me of steve's open letter to iphone customers. in particular:

The good news is that if you buy products from companies that support them well, like Apple tries to do, you will receive years of useful and satisfying service from them even as newer models are introduced.
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The touch doesn't even ship for a couple weeks.

By the time it's out, Leopard will be less than a month away.

The solution is simple, just wait until leopard is out to get one of these if you're still on 10.3.
 
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