why doesn't apple have a photoshop equivalent?

Discussion in 'Mac Apps and Mac App Store' started by bearbo, Feb 20, 2007.

  1. bearbo macrumors 68000


    Jul 20, 2006
    apple has a (almost) complete set of creative application suite...

    there's the final cut studio, for every movie editing need, is the Adobe Premiere equivalent

    there's the logic pro, for every audio editing need, is the Adobe, well, whatever that is, equivalent

    there's aperture, which is adobe photoshop lightroom equivalent

    how come there's no adobe photoshop equivalent?
    is it because photoshop is The Industrial Standard?

    i just think if apple were to come up with a photoshop, then we don't have to depend on adobe so much...
  2. gauchogolfer macrumors 603


    Jan 28, 2005
    American Riviera
    I think for the same reason that Apple hasn't really tried to take on MS in the Office space (even though iWork is starting to), they don't want to challenge Adobe in the Photoshop/Illustrator space. The threat of Adobe cutting off support seems to much of a risk.
  3. bearbo thread starter macrumors 68000


    Jul 20, 2006
    but would adobe really cut support? i mean, even if apple develop its equivalent, there will still be plenty of ppl use the adobe counterpart... just look at aperture, look at final cut studio

    and in term of office, i think MS is already slowly pulling support, and apple knows it (or i hope), i sure hope to see a spreadsheet program as powerful as excel, only made by apple. and apple should strengthen the page to be a bit more powerful too... maybe this is just too hopeful thinking?
  4. Sun Baked macrumors G5

    Sun Baked

    May 19, 2002
    Since they have been purchasing most of their Creative Suite apps, and Adobe Photoshop likely isn't for sale -- that leaves ...
  5. iMacZealot macrumors 68020

    Mar 11, 2005
    Yeah, it's amazing how Apple buys software and makes it their own...NeXTSTEP, SoundJam, KeyGrip, Emagic, etc.
  6. maximile macrumors member

    Oct 27, 2003
    Herefordshire, UK
    There's always been this rumour that Apple has their own Photoshop-like application, which they keep in active development, but will only release if Adobe stops supporting the Mac.
  7. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

    Jul 4, 2004

    Because Photoshop is an incredibly powerful and deep program, with most of its functionality for pro users not immediately obvious to the casual user. Replicating this and marketing it as a viable alternative is a fight that Apple will not take on.

    However, there is room for an low-end Apple image editing solution, but perhaps it doesn't need to be able to work in Lab space or work with Pantone swatch libraries.
  8. elppa macrumors 68040


    Nov 26, 2003
    File with the one about cocoa frameworks being ported to windows and Apple having access to MS's APIs.

    It would be an enormous drain on resources to develop a product like that and keep it up-to-date for a "just in case scenario".

    I think Apple (mostly) respects it's 3rd party developers. It's good business sense as they are responsible for the Mac eco-system. One of the reasons FTP blows in the Finder is because they don't want to step on Panic's toes.
  9. Marble macrumors 6502a


    May 13, 2003
    Tucson, AZ
    I wouldn't go that far. Apple may respect its developers, but not enough to let them get in its way. Apple has put many small developers out of business with their free, user friendly applications. iTunes is the best example, and Panic was the one that took the big hit on that one, remember?
  10. RacerX macrumors 65832

    Aug 2, 2004
    Lets look at Final Cut... when it proved to be better than Premiere, did Adobe step up to the plate to take it on?


    What Adobe did was pulled support for the Mac version and then started a campaign called PCs Preferred.

    How about when Apple decided to use PDF rather than Postscript for Mac OS X's display rendering engine? Adobe had (in less than two weeks, with a single employee) ported Photoshop 5.0 to Carbon an demoed it at the WWDC 98 Keynote. Photoshop was the last major Adobe app to be ported to Mac OS X (Summer of 2002). It was released after Mac OS X native versions of Acrobat, Illustrator, InDesign, GoLive, LiveMotion, AfterEffects and Premiere.

    The people running Adobe today aren't the people who ran Adobe in the 80's and 90's... Yes, they would have no problem (at all) pulling Photoshop support for Macs. :eek:
  11. MisterMe macrumors G4


    Jul 17, 2002
    Adobe in the 1980s was the PostScript company, but Adobe in the 1990s was every bit as quirky as it is today. Remember what happened when Apple asked Adobe to alter PostScript Type 1 hints to accomodate onscreen display. Siting its professional typesetting market focus, Adobe refused. This started the "Font Wars," which Adobe lost after Apple developed and Microsoft adopted TrueType.

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