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Why doesn't Apple make new iMac Touch (screen)?

dallasdad said:
:confused: I don't get it. I really, really don't. HELP ME PLEASE.

Why doesn't Apple make new iMac Touch (screen)??!?
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Well, until he died the reason was that Steve hated them for desktops.

While they are obvious for pads they are TERRIBLE for desktops. If you have the monitor vertical it means lousy ergonomics as you have your arm suspended and reached out for hours on end ... try that sometime and tell us how much you enjoy it. The other option is to have the monitor flat on your desk but that causes all sorts of other problems. Everything from not being able to sit at your usual height (or buying a new desk) to more desk real estate taken up (which goes against the thinner idea) to it being a dust/coffee magnet. Angled is no good either because then your viewing angle is messed up.

For everyone crying for touch screens? Deal. You can always go find one (maybe from somewhere that makes kiosk displays) and hook it up as a secondary monitor.
 
I thought the original post was from Steve Ballmer trying a last throw of the dice to make TOUCH mainstream.

Who in their right mind wants finger prints all over their lovely Mac IPS screen?

Even MS and the large OEM's have admitted that users of Touch AIO machines tend to go back to using mouse and keyboard once the novelty and agony of using Touch has worn off.
 
Lankyman said:
I thought the original post was from Steve Ballmer trying a last throw of the dice to make TOUCH mainstream.

Who in their right mind wants finger prints all over their lovely Mac IPS scre
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I think this subject has been settled. Touch screens for desktops will need to stay with MS, they will over time realize the silliness of Win 8 and the touch screen frenzy. What a waste of effort rapping on this issue.
 
Touchscreens were introduced as far back as the 1980s for dedicated software terminals, in environments like city trading and banking.
They were a disaster for the reason cited a couple of times in this thread -- "Gorilla arm".

Dirty marks are the least of your worries. Holding your arm outstretched all day is knackering. Now try to exercise some control while you're doing it.

I dare say Apple may produce an iMac touch screen, but it would have to be inclined slightly off the horizontal right in front of you.
 
They started their company based on the creative people company. For years ALL design shops only used MAC:[/QUOTE said:
Yes you have it right Apple started from creative people.....those creative minds are still at work making iPads, iPhones, with touch screen. Those creative minds recognize a computer touch screen is a bust, just let MS take the hit.

Your also right that design shops used MAC and still do.........but they do not use a touch screen, but rather added extra hardware for their tweaking.

Hey..........anybody who wants a touch screen, just go get a puter with Win 8 and go for it. But let the desktops from Apple stay the way they are.
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Apple iMacs seem stone aged

Was at a tech store and played around with various touch screen desktops. It saddens me to think Apple is still willing to take their time while the competition is grabbing market share. Do what others are doing. Perfect along the way. The same way they launch their new iOS software. Make it operational to a good level and as and when issues are raised, fix, text and roll out newer versions of their software.

I still don't understand why :apple: doesn't see or think that there is a market out there :confused: for touch screen desktops :confused:
 
Because there's not...

Perfect example of the fact that what people THINK they want, and what they ACTUALLY need, are very rarely the same.
 
is there really a touch aio market? because, i dont know but it seems the useage of such products seems a bit unusual, i would love a small touchbased aio wrapped in foil in the kitchen but i can hardly imagine holding the hands/arms 8 hours up.
in addition, the bloodflow in my hands would be pretty low :D
think about using photoshop on a touch based and u need to move an object slightly to the side with your fingers :D,
i know i know for such things we still could use keyboard/mouse combo but while you're using keyboard/mouse i would be to lazy to put my arms/hands back up again...
 
I don't know about the majority of Mac users, but I for one do not want and would not purchase a touch screen IMac. It's tough enough to keep my current 27' clean ad it is, and I don't like the concept anyway.
 
Touch screens are here to stay -- for phones or tablets.

Personal Computers (Both PC & Mac) are a dying breed, consumer shipments are decreasing on a year to year basis.

I also have a Asus laptop with Windows 8, don't like to use the touch screen since it's not comfortable reaching up from the keyboard to touch the vertical display.
 
We dont need a touch screen. it doesnt make work easier on a computer its just to compliment the stupid live tile **** that windows came up with
 
preyan said:
I still don't understand why :apple: doesn't see or think that there is a market out there :confused: for touch screen desktops :confused:
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Because touch screen computers are great for sales kiosks and register replacements and not so much at home? As mentioned by another, keeping the iMac screen clean is bad enough - where do those finger prints come from!

Top it off with, iOS has already influenced OS X badly as it is, I know, maybe we can go back to one app only at a time, yeah thats the ticket
 
iMacUnsure said:
Would have to agree.
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Likewise. My father has one on a Windows machine. I don't think I've ever seen him use it (the screen also looks a bit fuzzy, but that might be a low-quality monitor?).

Occasionally, other people point at things on my monitor but I'd rather they kept their greasy fingers to themselves :)
 
Bad ideas are bad. Besides, apple already addressed this scenario and responded that they don't believe it's functional, long time ago. Actually, it was Steve that referred to this subject in a keynote.
 
abercrombie said:
Personal Computers (Both PC & Mac) are a dying breed, consumer shipments are decreasing on a year to year basis.
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The majority of home users do not need a workstation PC, they can do with a smartphone or tablet and that is why the workstation PC market is contracting. The home user has discovered they do not need a PC and going by your remarks you belong in that group. Heck even a large number of "managers" in companies do not need a serious PC workstation and can do with a tablet.

However the smartphone and tablet are not capable of doing the serious work of a workstation (e.g. database programming, serious photo shop work, video editing, CAD work, futures trading amongst the hundreds of tasks), in other words the PC , smartphone and tablet are different markets.

The PC is not dead, far from it. Same as that mainframes are not dead - they have only become more powerful. However the workstations will in due course become more expensive in comparison to the tablets etc. due to the lower turnover of what they once enjoyed. Horses for causes.

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sinfonye said:
Occasionally, other people point at things on my monitor but I'd rather they kept their greasy fingers to themselves :)
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same here

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Shivetya said:
...., maybe we can go back to one app only at a time, yeah thats the ticket
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or back to DOS 2.3 ?
 
The Macbook Air could have one as it is perfectly comfortable using a 11.6" as a touchscreen. 13" may be okay as well, anything larger and it would just be uncomfortable even more so with a desktop and as with the laptop touchscreen it needs to be cleaned all day long.

This laptop being 11.6" it is basically the size of some tablets and being a touchscreen makes many tasks much quicker.
 
and what about the keyboard?

okay you could use something like the ipad/iphone has but could be annoying and unconfortable after writing long messages,
so you again, end up using a keyboard...
 
[[ I don't get it. I really, really don't. HELP ME PLEASE.
Why doesn't Apple make new iMac Touch (screen)??!?]]

Because it's totally impractical to use a vertical display, mounted at about arm's length away from you, as a "touch screen".

If I reach out my arm from my chair, across the keyboard, to touch my display, I can't even REACH the screen without leaning forward in my chair.

Even if I could touch it, the fact that it's _vertical_ (and not on a horizontal plane sitting in my lap) would make drag movements imprecise and difficult.

"Touching the display" is about displays that you can hold in your hand, lay on your lap, and aren't really that particular about precision of movement.

For an upright display like the iMac, or any other display, it's easier and more precise to just use the mouse.

Apple may someday market a touch-display iMac so that they can say "we did it", but I sense that the novelty will wear off quickly, and that most users who try one will go back to the desktop mouse or trackpad for both convenience and accuracy....
 
preyan said:
I still don't understand why :apple: doesn't see or think that there is a market out there :confused: for touch screen desktops :confused:
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Technically there is. The problem is, it is a gimmick and after a hour or so of using it, most stop. Fact of the matter is, it's a selling point that later you regret. I don't know how many of my friends have shown off their "touchscreens" as a cool feature, but when you ask them how often it gets used, they admit not often and usually just use a mouse and a keyboard.

Even if the monitor was "mounted" in a horizontal position (which would be better from an arm fatigue) you would run into neck fatigue from having to look down all day. I know this one from owning a "convertible laptop" from several years ago. Because of the weight of a full fledged laptop, I had to have it in my lap (you can't hold it upright for very long like an iPad) which meant my neck was constantly strained in order for my eyes to look down my work.

I ended up deciding the laptop was only going to be used in tablet mode when presenting which was probably it's best usage (since the only time I used it as a tablet in a meeting was to draw on it and most of the time I looked up at the projected screen when speaking to the audience).
 
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