i came home from new york city yesterday and while i was up there i noticed a huge amount of posters for the creative zen. now i still don't think creative understands the reasons people like the ipod and ipod mini, but they do understand one thing and that's the user interface. they've completely copied the ipod's user interface on the ipod except for using the chicago font. everything else looks almost exactly the same. i've included some pictures that illustrate this point. with apple suing everyone lately, i'd imagine they'd be able to do something with the creative for taking their intellectual property. just a thought.