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Why doesn't apply kill the fugly imac bezel?

fusionid

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mostly a matter of looking dated really but why? they just doubled down on a more expensive fully loaded imac pro that will launch dec 2017. Even the future unit will be bezel'd
 

imac2017mm

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They could have, but havng thick bezels doesnt stop people from getting work done.

If they refuced them the screen size from corner to corner would probably be 30inches
 
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redheeler

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mostly a matter of looking dated really but why? they just doubled down on a more expensive fully loaded imac pro that will launch dec 2017. Even the future unit will be bezel'd
The reason the iMac is so thin at the edge has to do with the bezel. If Apple shrinks the bezel, then the edge has to get thicker for there to be room for components like the internal speakers.

Yes, I agree that I don't spend much time looking at my iMac from the side (although I'm not sure the same can be said for Apple's web marketing team). But having large bezels doesn't really matter on a desktop either.
 
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Starfia

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Maybe. For the purposes of having a border around a display area, the utterly unmarred black border is about as beautiful as it gets, isn't it?
 
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mbosse

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mostly a matter of looking dated really but why? they just doubled down on a more expensive fully loaded imac pro that will launch dec 2017. Even the future unit will be bezel'd
Below the bezel is the area where the sticky tape is located to adhere the screen to the case. So technically its necessary.
 
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Chancha

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Look at the Dell monitors, as nice as they are, their thin bezels created a huge problem for LED backlight bleeding across all models. If iMacs' bezel is any thinner, expect much higher out of the box returns, or generally worse backlight uniformity / dark lit performance.
 
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mbosse

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Look at the Dell monitors, as nice as they are, their thin bezels created a huge problem for LED backlight bleeding across all models. If iMacs' bezel is any thinner, expect much higher out of the box returns, or generally worse backlight uniformity / dark lit performance.
That's an interesting argument. Thanks for posting!
 
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Chancha

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That's an interesting argument. Thanks for posting!
Even more interesting is that Dell knows this. In their newest 4K HDR line up, the lesser U2718Q which is only sRGB (consumer model), it is thin bezel and as expected is subjected to bleed and some IPS glow (unflat surface perhaps). Then the much more expensive UP2718Q which covers aRGB and DCI-P3 and HDR10 (professional colorist model) uses the good old "fugly" thick bezel.
 
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I'm with others - I don't care if the iMac has small or large bezels. I'd rather Apple continue focusing on performance than appearance when it comes to their professional machines. Getting work done is far more important than having thinner bezels, and to be honest the iMac design feels as modern today as it did in 2007.
 
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fusionid

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I wonder if the people who like the bezel say so because they recently bought a new iMac.

I guess my 6 year old iMac looks very modern by that account.
 
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I wonder if the people who like the bezel say so because they recently bought a new iMac.

I guess my 6 year old iMac looks very modern by that account.

My first iMac was in 2011. I still think the design looks modern. You don't often think about the design when you've got work to do on your iMac.
 
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imac2017mm

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Thinner bezels would also require them to reduce the curve/radius on the rounded corners. The actual viewing area is a square... unless they do rounded screen like LG G6
 
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gian8989

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Bezel helps to not get distracted. when you have a screen with almost no bezel, the side of the monitor tends to fuse with the background. Both me and my father have a white wall behind our computer but he has thinner bezel on his monitor; every time I use his PC I feel annoyed by it. But this is just my personal feeling.
I also know that having big bezel is a problem if you want to use 2 monitors.
 
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Icaras

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I care. They better shave off that tumorous bezel by next update next year.
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The iMac is a tool not a work of art to be looked at and not touched.

Priorities...

Eh...I never listen to comments like these. I buy Apple products for their good looks as well as their functionality. They are a work of art to me. To each their own.
 
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fusionid

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another add on that I feel must go is the huge chin. While I could see the need for bezels around in black to improve viewing (I am willing to believe this argument), the huge chin is fugly
 
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Chancha

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I care. They better shave off that tumorous bezel by next update next year.
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Eh...I never listen to comments like these. I buy Apple products for their good looks as well as their functionality. They are a work of art to me. To each their own.
Well in that case Apple apparently chose function over form, to each their own. I hope I could say the same with the touch bar MBPs.

Also let me stress it again, with the current tech, thinner bezel means inevitably compromising screen quality. This will change with OLEDs altogether, fortunately.
 
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SaSaSushi

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I buy Apple products for their good looks as well as their functionality. They are a work of art to me. To each their own.

As do I, but it is an entirely subjective issue.

I like the bezel and appreciate the lack of backlight bleed it affords. I like the chin too. To each their own indeed.

There is no point in arguing aesthetics.
 
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maflynn

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mostly a matter of looking dated really but why? they just doubled down on a more expensive fully loaded imac pro that will launch dec 2017. Even the future unit will be bezel'd
I don't think its ugly, and based on the other replies, I'm not alone.

I think the iMac is a great looking and great functioning computer that allows me to work.
 
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imac2017mm

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For an all in one computer it should look just like that. If anything it should standout ... and the chin is not that big
 
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fusionid

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You guys crack me up. No reason to discuss aesthetics? The reason not iMac i7s over heat is aesthetics.
 
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mostly a matter of looking dated really but why? they just doubled down on a more expensive fully loaded imac pro that will launch dec 2017. Even the future unit will be bezel'd

I honestly don't care about the size of the bezel, if anything the machine is too thin and now useful stuff (SD cards, USB ports, etc) have to be hidden around the back of the machine. I'd rather the machine got thicker so the cooling was better and ports were moved to the front so I could access them more easily - i.e. get some work done rather than sitting there in my underpants starting at it's beauty.
 
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